What the hell is that thing?
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Safe Mag holder? So you are sure you don't have a round in the chamber but can load it really quickly when needed.
Are you sure that ass is kosher?……..I should check
I didn’t notice what OP wrote until scrolled back up several times to look at dat ass.
This:
Would eat that booty too.
Would eat that booty too.
Ever been "inside the wire" in the US military in a combat zone - we did not carry "locked and loaded" either.
But we did carry with a mag in the weapon, even if there was not a round in the chamber.
I'll bet more people have been killed dicking around loading their weapon when they should have been shooting that those who had an AD.
Also, I've NEVER heard of an M4 firing when the weapon was on safe. Ever, never, not even once. And I was in the Air Force, where weapons discipline was not even a thing.
Why do they make it so hard?
You already gave away the tactical advantage to the enemy by carrying in the open, then you add this?
OY!
I'll bet more people have been killed dicking around loading their weapon when they should have been shooting that those who had an AD.
Also, I've NEVER heard of an M4 firing when the weapon was on safe. Ever, never, not even once. And I was in the Air Force, where weapons discipline was not even a thing.
Why do they make it so hard?
You already gave away the tactical advantage to the enemy by carrying in the open, then you add this?
OY!
Not booming on all cops, but.....
When I'm the Range Safety Officer at our public range, and some person bounces out of their car and says to me "you don't have to watch me, I'm a cop and carry a gun all day!" I make the sign of the cross, mumble a short prayer, and try to get the guy to switch to the other side so I don't have to watch him like a hawk.
60% - 70% of the cops who show up on my range don't know how to properly operate, present, or fire their weapon. "I'm not a gun guy."
I know when I was still in uniform (military), I had and exact copy of my issue weapon and I practiced the shit out of it.
I don't get, "I'm in the business of gunfighting, but I don't know how to run my equipment."
Rant over. For now.
When I'm the Range Safety Officer at our public range, and some person bounces out of their car and says to me "you don't have to watch me, I'm a cop and carry a gun all day!" I make the sign of the cross, mumble a short prayer, and try to get the guy to switch to the other side so I don't have to watch him like a hawk.
60% - 70% of the cops who show up on my range don't know how to properly operate, present, or fire their weapon. "I'm not a gun guy."
I know when I was still in uniform (military), I had and exact copy of my issue weapon and I practiced the shit out of it.
I don't get, "I'm in the business of gunfighting, but I don't know how to run my equipment."
Rant over. For now.
You trying to tell us that a backwards magazine is a problem?
I think a good argument can be made that self defense is not about moving toward and engaging “the enemy.” It’s about “getting off the X” and disengaging the threat. For the average armed civilian, standing out in the open with bullets flying is not the time to be dicking around with a firearm- period.
Her form and stance is top tierYou trying to tell us that a backwards magazine is a problem?
When we were on LRRP in '67. we stayed locked n loaded !!
It's the same lazy uninspired attitude of most trade workers. Just run the clock out all day. Their not investing in tools or trying to learn as much as they can to make more money. Just punch the clock and go home. Why would anyone think it's different for cops? It's the perfect .gov job to be a lazy POS for 25 years and retire.
What did you do in a city park, two blocks from your mom's house?
BTW, you gotta start your stories with, "back in nam".
“One minute I was strolling past the playground. A kid on the jungle gym side-eyed me and just like that I was back in ‘nam…”
You trying to tell us that a backwards magazine is a problem?
So she's into reverse cowgirl... I don't judge.
As long as they're properly trained on how to load it in an emergency. If I know the Israelis, I'm sure they drill on it constantly.
I’d like to see the drill. I can’t figure a way that allows for an un-goat-fucked magazine insertion, given the orientation of the bullets in the OPs photo…
About 15 years ago I was running a squad at the local USPSA match. A lady I did not know, but was “experienced” according to her friends came up to shoot. BUZZ, she draws and engaged a couple targets and began to move along a wall. She stops, turns towards me with her pistol pointed at my midsection and said, “I have a question.”
I grabbed the slide, pushed the pistol down range and told her to let go. Cleared the weapon and told her to meet me at the safe table with her bag
Match director took her aside and explained the situation. He later told me she was pretty pissed at the way I treated her. She was a deputy sheriff.
Wish I could say that is my only negative experience.
Vietnam!!
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Now I am confused - first you said you were in the Air Force and now you say you were in the military - so which is it?
They tell you to say military in “mixed” company to not offend those who scored low enough to go army, navy or marines.
I'm sure during Vietnam combat experienced guys simply snicked on the safety and were good to go, inside the wire. But times have changed and IQs are in a death spiral to 50.
2004 my buddy deploys to Iraq with a New York Air Guard unit. The commander ordered them disarmed upon arrival in Baghdad. He said, " I'd rather have all of you killed by the enemy than risk a firearms accident and someone getting hurt."
2007 when I was there we stored are weapons with us at the powerplant and never left the base unarmed. The Army wouldn't let unarmed Air Force tourists on its bases. Most USAF slobs wandered around with rags stuffed in the mag wells for dust control. We found an M4 lying in the road once and a couple of M9s in Porta pottys. The sorriest people you meet at a range always start a sentence with "I qualified expert in the army."
A nice Jewish girl with a juicy Kosher ass who can put a democrat supported Hama's terrorist out of his misery before he kills and rapes a little kid is okay in my book.
2004 my buddy deploys to Iraq with a New York Air Guard unit. The commander ordered them disarmed upon arrival in Baghdad. He said, " I'd rather have all of you killed by the enemy than risk a firearms accident and someone getting hurt."
2007 when I was there we stored are weapons with us at the powerplant and never left the base unarmed. The Army wouldn't let unarmed Air Force tourists on its bases. Most USAF slobs wandered around with rags stuffed in the mag wells for dust control. We found an M4 lying in the road once and a couple of M9s in Porta pottys. The sorriest people you meet at a range always start a sentence with "I qualified expert in the army."
A nice Jewish girl with a juicy Kosher ass who can put a democrat supported Hama's terrorist out of his misery before he kills and rapes a little kid is okay in my book.
I could have simultaneously enlisted in three branches with a single score. Who knew?
u funny.
If its any consolation, I spent a lot of time with Soldiers and Marines shooting at 600+ yards and learned from them. And Thunder Ranch, and Gunsite, and ...
Your response reminds me of coming home on leave with my brother (Marine) and friends asking "what's the difference in the services?"
After listening to bro wax on about the few and the loud, I said:
In the Army, the LT comes down and says to the platoon SGT, "grab some men and storm that building!"
In the Marines, the LT comes down and says to the platoon SGT, "grab some men and storm that hill!"
In the Navy, the Ensign comes down and says to the Chief, "grab some men and a PT boat and take that beach."
In the Air Force, we stand at the end of the runway, salute sharply and say, "Go kick their asses, sir!"
If its any consolation, I spent a lot of time with Soldiers and Marines shooting at 600+ yards and learned from them. And Thunder Ranch, and Gunsite, and ...
Your response reminds me of coming home on leave with my brother (Marine) and friends asking "what's the difference in the services?"
After listening to bro wax on about the few and the loud, I said:
In the Army, the LT comes down and says to the platoon SGT, "grab some men and storm that building!"
In the Marines, the LT comes down and says to the platoon SGT, "grab some men and storm that hill!"
In the Navy, the Ensign comes down and says to the Chief, "grab some men and a PT boat and take that beach."
In the Air Force, we stand at the end of the runway, salute sharply and say, "Go kick their asses, sir!"
... you said...drill on it. I see what you did there. Mac
Yeahhhhh…this. I just sat here for a few seconds trying to come up with the way to grab it and do a flip twist to no avail. That thing is a bit fucked.
all active duty soldiers are required to carry, even when on leave.
The better their scores / longer they are in, the shorter the rifle.
Off duty are not supposed to have a magazine in the chamber.
Back in my uncle's day they had something that translated from hebrew called the Hitchhiker - it looked something like that, only it included a small magazine for 2 or 3 rounds hidden within the magwell. You could fire 3x before spinning the magazine to your full mag.
(sorry, I was searching something else and this thread came up on google).
My grandfather was the lead american contractor that built the US "gifted" airbases in the negev after Israel gave the Sinai back to Egypt for peace. I still have his civilian issued license to carry (he kept it in his US passport) - I'm not even sure foreigners can get those anymore. I took it with me on birth right, everyone was amazed it was ever issued.
The better their scores / longer they are in, the shorter the rifle.
Off duty are not supposed to have a magazine in the chamber.
Back in my uncle's day they had something that translated from hebrew called the Hitchhiker - it looked something like that, only it included a small magazine for 2 or 3 rounds hidden within the magwell. You could fire 3x before spinning the magazine to your full mag.
(sorry, I was searching something else and this thread came up on google).
My grandfather was the lead american contractor that built the US "gifted" airbases in the negev after Israel gave the Sinai back to Egypt for peace. I still have his civilian issued license to carry (he kept it in his US passport) - I'm not even sure foreigners can get those anymore. I took it with me on birth right, everyone was amazed it was ever issued.
Just out of curiosity, how does one distinguish between active (but off duty) soldier carrying as depicted in the video, and a potential terrorist just trying to "blend in?" Is there something which identifies the person as an "off duty" soldier so they aren't mistaken for anything else? I don't see any identification insignia or anything. I know these folks are light years ahead of us in the USA. Imagine all the SWATing that would ensure if people tried to carry this way, here.
Here is the problem with that.
"cops" think it's perfectly fine to be pointing deadly weapons at anybody for any or no reason or just because they feel like it.
One of the "uniforms" on this site actually came out and said, it's no different than pointing my finger at you and no policy against it and legally I can do it anytime I want.
They don't seem to understand how much they dislike having loaded (or unloaded weapons) pointed at them, might be the same amount other people dislike them pointing their weapons at others.
Essentially "extra special animals" aren't used to being remotely interested in the safety of others.
So when they go to a range, do you expect them to suddenly remember how to be a decent person?
Nope, to them you are just one of the "them" and they can point at you all they want.
Skin colour and racial profiling.
Yep that's what they do.
And if you happen to be unlucky enough to be a Jew and an Israeli citizen but have very dark skin, well you might just stop a terrorist attack and then have some punk "solider" execute you in the street in cold blood because he wants to "kill Arabs" and his command will be like... well... can't we ignore it
(true actual story recently).
Tell me you've never been to Israel without telling me you've never been to Israel.
Chaotic shit happens when you're responding to people blowing themselves up in cafe's and spraying crowds in a bus station. Target identification is a big issue for everyone. Command has never "swept it under the rug." Nor would the poor person who made such a mistake ever let it go.
but I digress.
Carrying a weapon is not illegal. Even for "dark skinned" people - of which most of us are. Carrying with a magazine inserted will certainly get you a TON of attention though.
Proper target ID is a problem for everyone that carries a weapon, not just soldiers. You have to be especially careful where lots of actors on both sides don't wear formal uniforms.
stay safe:
(2007 - Bedouins keep the mags in and one in the chamber. They also make some great hooch)
Sorry but actually YES the command tried their very and I mean VERY best to make it go away right up until the family made a big enough stink that they said "okay we'll investigate ourselves"...
To this day I'm not sure the solider that did that was properly punished.
No it wasn't some B.S. about "chaotic" it was clearly cold blooded murder.
The actual hero was on his knees with his hands in the air, completely unarmed and pleading that he was an Israeli citizen when the soldier decided to murder him in cold blood.
It's not like we have video of this, don't believe your lying eyes.
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