XM7 worries from the field.

Especially for a Pacific Theater conflict with China though, this M7 has zero place in the fight, and would only lead to unnecessary loss of life. Not that US Army will be Island-hopping like it’s WWII (unless some mongoloid General convinces the JCS that’s a good idea).

In Asian militaries, it’s very top-down how they do their large force exercises. Now China does evolutions of their combined arms live-fire demos so the Generals look competent. Based on Chinese culture, I could see the unexpected outcome being an even more humiliating defeat than Saddam experienced in 1991. The Iraqi Air Force and Army were battle-hardened against the US-equipped Iranian Air Force and Army over 8 years of warfare. That included surface-to-surface ballistic missiles, advanced fighters, bombers, chemical warfare, large mechanized battles, artillery, and large infantry engagements.

The pace at which counter-UAS systems are being developed and manufactured is also a thing in NATO and would-be belligerent nations. It always comes back to who can put bigger warheads on TGTs faster and in more efficacious locations consistently to shut down the opponent. China sucks at maritime operations, so they really can’t afford to mess around in that space, especially if it spreads into their merchant fleet of shipping vessels. Every nation who suffers from their dredge fishing and depletion of fish populations would love to punch them in the face if it’s open season on ChiCom vessels.

Their Air Defense doesn’t work against European cruise missiles, so it won’t work against our more VLO missiles like JASSM and JASSM-ER. They showed that in the Indo-Paki dust-up earlier this year. SCALP Cratered all the Eastern-based Pakistani Air bases, shutting down their sortie-gen capability.

The major conclusion from all of this for me is that US Army/Pentagon needs to be relieved of small arms development. They have proven time and again for the last 70 years that they are incapable of envisioning, managing, and fielding a successful shoulder-fired weapon. All the really good solutions in this space have come from other organizations outside of Big Army. So good that other Special Operations, Recon, and Infantry units around the world have adopted those solutions (AR-15, M4, Hk416) and are expanding their adoption even as we speak. Look at the latest SAKO AR-15 weapons for Finnish Defense Forces and Sweden, as examples.
 
One does have to wonder who the corrupt fucks are that are sucking Sig's cock so that their products somehow always make the cut with US DOD


I think it's a little of part A, and a little of part B.

Part A is your comment, part B is the success they've had with the original MCX in T1 and High-profile units with the LVAW, Rattler, etc.

I think the real winner would be and still is taking the hybrid case tech and applying it to 6mm ARC, giving you most of the advantages the NGSW was supposed to achieve without the weight increase and reduction in ammunition volume. (ARC over Grendel purely because the longer projectile would make an AP projectile more effective)
 
I think the real winner would be and still is taking the hybrid case tech and applying it to 6mm ARC, giving you most of the advantages the NGSW was supposed to achieve without the weight increase and reduction in ammunition volume. (ARC over Grendel purely because the longer projectile would make an AP projectile more effective)
My tiny brain says No.

A hot 6 as a candidate for anything in the NGSW space would be a No-Go. In sustained fire/ high volume uses, an enhanced pressure 6ARC would eat barrels at least as quickly as the new 6.8x51mm.

For that to ever work, material science and barrel manufacturing would have to make a generational leap that I don't think it is ready to make.

The ARC case is larger. 0.441" dia compared to the 5.56 NATO at 0.377". So there will still be a weight increase and volume reduction penalty for each knuckle dragger that has to hump one.
 
Keep in mind, the M7 isn't being fielded in the sense that is replacing the M4. The Army did award it type classification which moves the M7 along in the fielding program but it is still in operational and user testing phase. I think people assume the Army just went out and bought the gun and it's replacing the M4 in it's current configuration right now. Not the case. It really does seem like it's not ready for Type classification yet and from a couple of articles it seems the Pentagon(who in the Pentagon?) disagreed with the Army's move to progress the XM7 along in the NGSW program to M7. I'm not involved with the program and I'm just outside looking in, reading articles like everyone else here, but I see nuances that people don't seem to understand. Keep in mind there's a difference between the specific gun and the program.

I'm also picking up on some comments that the NGSW program is almost as much about selecting a rifle as it is developing a program development model to use for other material solutions in the future. Elements seem to be working with industry on a continuous basis, evolving and iterating over time, more wide scale operator testing than in the past, testing parameters outside of a few procurement nerds running some joes through a series of tests in a very controlled operator testing lane, instead releasing the rifle to units to be subject to unit and collective training, accountability, and maintenance. I'm not defending it, but I see where a lot of other considerations could be driving the rifle forward in the program despite it's failures. Who knows, could also be a prove the null hyposthesis strategy that needs to play out. As far as SIGs involvement, I do know that selecting a company to work with over a long term has a lot to do with the company's ability to scale, sustain over time, allocate time and resources to continuous iteration. Not just any company is going to be able to do that. I have to imagine the eventual outcome of the 320 saga will call into question the future prospects of working with SIG.
 
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