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Thinking about a 7mm Backcountry, and Christensen is the only factory option I have found with a 16" barrel.

Does anyone have any feedback on the new Evoke? I have a Ridgeline that I am happy with, so not concerned about the maker.

Looking for opinions, as well as actual weight on a 16" rifle. Internet info varies.
 
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You’re not gonna find much love for Christensen on here. Preferred and I’m sure a few others make prefits for 7BC. You’d probably be better off going that route with an action you already have
 
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Major Wader said:
Thinking about a 7mm Backcountry, and Christensen is the only factory option I have found with a 16" barrel.

Does anyone have any feedback on the new Evoke? I have a Ridgeline that I am happy with, so not concerned about the maker.

Looking for opinions, as well as actual weight on a 16" rifle. Internet info varies.
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Do not. Under any distance at all. For any reason. What so ever. Get a Christensen.

They are hot garbage.

7mm backcountry is not a great round and will likely have lots of trouble getting ammo.

Get a seekins in 7 prc. Trust us. You can easily shoot to 1200 yards and kill anything you want with the prc.

Again. Do not. Get a Christensen.
 
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I don't want a 7mm PRC. I have a 280 Ackley already, which happens to be a Christensen. It shoots well, and I have had no issues with it. I have shot long range with it and am very confident in the rifle and the round. Some of them might suck, but mine is accurate, and I have killed several critters with it up to about 650 lbs.

The attraction of the 7mm BC, for me anyway, is that it does with a 20" barrel what the 7 PRC does with a 24". Which means it is still significant with the 16" barrel. Primary purpose of the rifle I am considering is hunting in stands or blinds where the shorter length really makes a difference, and I try to use a suppressor whenever possible.

Since I have other rifles for long range shooting, this one would be for hunting only. I would likely buy 5-10 boxes of ammo and kill critters as long as I can still move to do so.

Also didn't really want to buy a $2000-$3000 rifle that I would only hunt with in certain circumstances, which is why I mentioned the Evoke @ about $850.
 
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Major Wader said:
I don't want a 7mm PRC. I have a 280 Ackley already, which happens to be a Christensen. It shoots well, and I have had no issues with it. I have shot long range with it and am very confident in the rifle and the round. Some of them might suck, but mine is accurate, and I have killed several critters with it up to about 650 lbs.

The attraction of the 7mm BC, for me anyway, is that it does with a 20" barrel what the 7 PRC does with a 24". Which means it is still significant with the 16" barrel. Primary purpose of the rifle I am considering is hunting in stands or blinds where the shorter length really makes a difference, and I try to use a suppressor whenever possible.

Since I have other rifles for long range shooting, this one would be for hunting only. I would likely buy 5-10 boxes of ammo and kill critters as long as I can still move to do so.

Also didn't really want to buy a $2000-$3000 rifle that I would only hunt with in certain circumstances, which is why I mentioned the Evoke @ about $850.
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Then buy a tikka in 7 or 300 prc or even 300 wsm or win mag and chop the barrel - you don’t need the speed so there’s zero advantage to the bc and plenty of disadvantages to a overpressured round that won’t be around for long.

Both the Christensen and BC are very poor choices. If you came here to justify it you’re not going to find that. If you want sound advice on what do read the paragraph above and stop supporting Christensen.
 
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I am the stupidest person here but from what I can see, 7 BC is basically trying to one-up the 7 PRC. Especially as the 7 PRC is no longer getting 3k MV out of the specified 24" barrel.

So, Federal uses an alloy case and higher pressure to get 3k MV out of a 20 inch barrel, which some consider more reasonable for hunting.

It's not necessarily more precise and it is pushing the same bullets. But sometimes speed is not going to improve precision.

I never had a 7 or magnum before, so I got the 7 PRC and I am pleased with it. Even at reported velocities of 2850 ish, the precision is there. Considering the impact velocity and bullet performance as a hunter are my biggest concerns, I could kill a deer dead at the distances I have to me which are far below 500 yards, even.

And if someone has a 7 RM and has done with it and the lighter bullets, I would say fine, that guy does not need a 7 PRC or 7 BC. 7 PRC was made for guys like me that want a decent shooting rifle with factory ammo.

But I have already read here and seen a number of videos of accuracy and precision problems with Christensen Arms.

I know the OP has a CA in another caliber that he is happy with. And maybe he will get lucky.

But I think that @Maurygold is right. We are not going to talk the OP out of a CA rifle. He just wanted some confirmation. Instead, he got valid input that he can either heed or ignore.

What would be interesting is if he gets one and it does well, he needs to show the paper here.
 
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OP: Are you seeking consensus, or are you looking for the opinions of others with experience (or similar) in your particular cartridge and rifle of choice?

I view Christiansen the same way I do a Bergara; you can get a great-shooting one or end up with a dud, or something in between. There is just too much of a disparity from one rifle to the next man. Been that way for a decade too.

Since you have a .280 Ackley, you aren't going to be adding a whole lot to your repertoire. A 16", 7BC will probably scratch your itch for the new hawt-ness... but are you gaining anything over a 24", .280 Ackley? No. And since you'll have to wear ears for a 16" magnum rifle anyway... it is starting to look like the only real reason to purchase is simply because you want to.

^ Nothing wrong with that either. Your money, use it how you want. I think though that you'll probably enjoy it less as time goes on. I say this having overlapped several cartridges before myself.
 
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I genuinely wanted feedback, and I got it.

Most appreciated.

What is the perceived/experienced issue with CA? The one I have owned, and a couple more I have shot, have been accurate, with no real issues. I did know of one that got sent back for stick extraction, but that was resolved quickly and with minimal hassle.

Regarding 7mm BC, there are a number of folks who have confirmed or exceeded stated ballistics.

That said, I could care less what the headstamp reads. Is there another cartridge that can do 195's at 2850 from a 20" barrel? The only thing I ever disliked about a 7mm Rem Mag was the long barrel. Same with 270 Weatherby, and 300 WM. Had all of these, and sold all, because the long barrels were a monumental pain in small trucks, UTV's, box blinds, and ladder stands.

I haven't bought anything yet, and absolutely could change my mind. Also willing to admit that I might be chasing unicorns.

Thanks in advance for any information.
 
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diggler1833 said:
OP: Are you seeking consensus, or are you looking for the opinions of others with experience (or similar) in your particular cartridge and rifle of choice?

I view Christiansen the same way I do a Bergara; you can get a great-shooting one or end up with a dud, or something in between. There is just too much of a disparity from one rifle to the next man. Been that way for a decade too.

Since you have a .280 Ackley, you aren't going to be adding a whole lot to your repertoire. A 16", 7BC will probably scratch your itch for the new hawt-ness... but are you gaining anything over a 24", .280 Ackley? No. And since you'll have to wear ears for a 16" magnum rifle anyway... it is starting to look like the only real reason to purchase is simply because you want to.

^ Nothing wrong with that either. Your money, use it how you want. I think though that you'll probably enjoy it less as time goes on. I say this having overlapped several cartridges before myself.
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Looking for a shorter option with similar killing power to the 280 Ackley. The overall length with a suppressor is the only negative to my current setup. My current .280 Ackley is about 53" with the suppressor attached.

When I am in short range situations (150 yards and under), I actually hunt with a .308 Win bolt action pistol with a 12 inch barrel and a suppressor, or a 16" lever action in .45-70. Just looking for similar overall length, but enough ass to reach out further.
 
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Major Wader said:
Looking for a shorter option with similar killing power to the 280 Ackley. The overall length with a suppressor is the only negative to my current setup. My current .280 Ackley is about 53" with the suppressor attached.

When I am in short range situations (150 yards and under), I actually hunt with a .308 Win bolt action pistol with a 12 inch barrel and a suppressor, or a 16" lever action in .45-70. Just looking for similar overall length, but enough ass to reach out further.
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A gunsmith can make any barrel you want short. You lose zero accuracy and only 25fps per inch.

The tikka and seekins are among the best factory rifles out and for $100-$150 can be any length you want. If you already have the 280 step up to a 300 prc, wsm, or win mag and chop it.
 
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Major Wader said:
Looking for a shorter option with similar killing power to the 280 Ackley. The overall length with a suppressor is the only negative to my current setup. My current .280 Ackley is about 53" with the suppressor attached.

When I am in short range situations (150 yards and under), I actually hunt with a .308 Win bolt action pistol with a 12 inch barrel and a suppressor, or a 16" lever action in .45-70. Just looking for similar overall length, but enough ass to reach out further.
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You don’t need a super whizz bang magnum. Especially one that will destroy not only your barrel fast, but ears in such a shirt barrel

Use a quality bullet and put it where it counts. A 300 PRC comes to mind with a Nosler Accubond or similar bullet. But at the range your mentioned, 150 yards, even something like a 6.5 Creedmoor with an 18.5” barrel would be a great round to consider. It’ll still be good for longer shots

 
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I'm covered at 150 yards. Goal for this rifle would be as a dedicated hunting rifle, 200-400 yards in the previously mentioned ladder stands/box blinds. I have other rifles for this, just looking for a shorter option, as my current rifles are all 22-26" barrels, and the added length of the suppressor makes them inconvenient in those situations. The rifle I am trying to find would never be used for open country spot & stalk.

Rifle would likely never be fired without a suppressor, and would not likely see more than 15-20 rounds per year after the initial zero.
 
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Major Wader said:
I'm covered at 150 yards. Goal for this rifle would be as a dedicated hunting rifle, 200-400 yards in the previously mentioned ladder stands/box blinds. I have other rifles for this, just looking for a shorter option, as my current rifles are all 22-26" barrels, and the added length of the suppressor makes them inconvenient in those situations. The rifle I am trying to find would never be used for open country spot & stalk.

Rifle would likely never be fired without a suppressor, and would not likely see more than 15-20 rounds per year after the initial zero.
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Get a Tikka T3 lite on sale at europtic, and have the barrel chopped to 18”
And threaded. 6.5 Creed is perfect for that range. No need for a magnum


Ruger even has the new Ranch rifle with a 16” barrel that could fit what you are wanting

 
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Major Wader said:
I genuinely wanted feedback, and I got it.

Most appreciated.

What is the perceived/experienced issue with CA? The one I have owned, and a couple more I have shot, have been accurate, with no real issues. I did know of one that got sent back for stick extraction, but that was resolved quickly and with minimal hassle.

Regarding 7mm BC, there are a number of folks who have confirmed or exceeded stated ballistics.

That said, I could care less what the headstamp reads. Is there another cartridge that can do 195's at 2850 from a 20" barrel? The only thing I ever disliked about a 7mm Rem Mag was the long barrel. Same with 270 Weatherby, and 300 WM. Had all of these, and sold all, because the long barrels were a monumental pain in small trucks, UTV's, box blinds, and ladder stands.

I haven't bought anything yet, and absolutely could change my mind. Also willing to admit that I might be chasing unicorns.

Thanks in advance for any information.
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Adn on the converse, I can understand your point, as well and there are some valid considerations. Same as when I decided to get a 7 PRC. It pushes heavy for caliber bullets at (initially) a high speed. And since my consideration is impact velocity, it retains more for a longer distance. Adam at Who Tee Who said it best in his drop chart. Most 7s and .30 cals are within an inch or so to about 500 yards. Then 7 PRC shines past 500 yards.

But I liked that it can push bullet the weight of a .30 cal fairly fast and is a good choice for unknown distances.

I can see the reasons you might value the 7 BC. It is also pushing heavy bullets, some heavier than I would try in 7 PRC or even my .308s. Heaviest I have shot so far is a 180 gr hunting round in one of my .308s that has a 20 inch medium bull barrel in a composite stock.

And a shorter rifle to include a suppressor while make it easier for tight quarters. I hunt in dense woods on public land with my rifle cradled across my arms, The 7 PRC in chassis with a 24 inch barrel and muzzle brake is about as long as I would want to get but I have also snagged a branch with the 20 inch barrel.

I think more of the advice here has been against having a CA rifle more than it would be about choice of cartridge. That being said, I have seen a lot of hay made out of one or two blemishes or duds. A person gets one bad copy and now everything from them is crap.

So, good luck to you and definitely I would like see groupings and even a harvest with that.
 
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They should rename it to 7mm Darwin.

A Christensen in 7mm Darwin should be called PSGWSP. ( Play stupid games win stupid prizes)

If your stuck on 7mm Darwin buy the giessele rifle at least it won't blow up on you.

Just an FYI...hunters chasing velocity numbers tend to be the shittiest and most unsuccessful hunters in my experience. Off all the guys I know who kill trophy bull elk almost yearly....they tend to go down in calibers. ( 6.5cm, 6.5 prc, .270 and 7-08). Yahoos trying to kill little deer with a 300prc must have small dicks or something. Just an honest observation.
 
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DeathBeforeDismount said:
They should rename it to 7mm Darwin.

A Christensen in 7mm Darwin should be called PSGWSP. ( Play stupid games win stupid prizes)

If your stuck on 7mm Darwin buy the giessele rifle at least it won't blow up on you.

Just an FYI...hunters chasing velocity numbers tend to be the shittiest and most unsuccessful hunters in my experience. Off all the guys I know who kill trophy bull elk almost yearly....they tend to go down in calibers. ( 6.5cm, 6.5 prc, .270 and 7-08). Yahoos trying to kill little deer with a 300prc must have small dicks or something. Just an honest observation.
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Everyone else, however critical, has brought genuine information that I will use to make an informed decision.

Except you.

You came with attitude and ignorance. And you and your "honest observation" made insulting comments about the "shittiest and most unsuccessful hunters".

Since you know nothing about me or what I have accomplished, and you still brought this ignorant bullshit, please go fuck yourself. Bring an audience if you wish.

I have killed critters with numerous calibers from .22-250 up to .45-70. All of them died. Including the ones shot with a 243, 7mm-08, 280 Ackley, 257 Roberts, 25-06, 7mm Rem Mag, 300 Win mag, several handguns, and numerous other rifle calibers. From 25 to 425 yards. Been almost 15 years since I have had a season with no kills, and that's because I took a few years off from hunting for personal reasons..

I am simply looking for a shorter rifle to do what I already do, and have successfully done for several decades. I have been faithful to a single woman for over 38 years, but I can freely have some variety in my hunting rifles without damaging my relationship.

I am only looking for the next great thing, and it might be a unicorn. I have chased those before, and was happy after.

Posts in this thread have lead me to consider other options, including moving to a 20" 7mm PRC. Your smartass comments, however, simply led me to ignore anything you ever post in the future.

Just an FYI... Again, go fuck yourself.
 
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Get the 7 BC.
Awesome hunting round. Built around running a short barrel.
I would go 18”.

Personally, I would not go Christiansen.
More miss than hit for accuracy.
Lotta ways to skin the cat on a good rifle.


Depending on critters, dont discount a short 6.5 creed and a lighter bullet.
123 Scenar at 2840 from a 16.5” and h4350 with a below max load.
 
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I just tried out the new 7mm BC .... it's the real deal.

Beats every factory load in a 20" barrel.
170 gr 3104 fps .166" 3 shot group.

Cut your 28 Nosler barrel to 20" and chronograph some factory ammo...actually see what the results are.

Everyone spouts negative crap cause they don't like their latest magnum surpassed by actual innovation instead of the using the same old brass case, in different configurations.

Fact all the PRCs and Noslers have been done many times over and many yrs ago...and most faded away.
Lazeroni War Bird, Dakota Arms, PO Ackley line, Arnold Arms, Canadian Industries Limited, and a host of others made for competition by custom gunsmiths at the time.

So unlike many who just whine, criticize, and make fun of...I went out and spent my money on this New Federal concept to see for myself.

It just plain works, no issues at all...none with bolt lift, extraction, ejection or feeding.

Feels like shooting factory brass cases in my rifle...except for the performance.

Here's the actual performance 7mm BC

The 170 gr 3104 with a .166" group mentioned above.
And quite a few 1/4" or less 3 shot groups with the 175 gr fusion tipped, at around 3030 fps

No barrel break-in, I lapp the barrel before using it....so no warranty. Plus hand loads later, brass and steel.

No cleaning at the range. No letting the barrel cool.
Fired 12 rds one after the other...to see what it will do.
Just stayed grouping but a little higher on the target.
This is factory ammo 170 gr and 175 gr.
 

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Major Wader said:
Thanks!
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@45-90 - Which rifle did you buy?
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Weatherby 307 Alpine CT 20" carbon fiber.
Intresting thing about the action is head space is held to tight toletence, of exactly .899" plus or minus 0". All possible wirh CNC equipment used to manufacture the actions. They have a Rem 700 footprint so 700 triggers and stocks are supposed to be used if they fit the barrel contour.

So now the barrel can be replaced by the average guy and a new one installed and torqued to 80 ft-lbs, is what I've read.

I'd have to check that before installing the barrel, cause I can adjust that...or just buy a barrel and chamber for it.

I ain't gonna baby this rifle...
I don't even hunt these days, but this is an excellent hunting rifle and cartridge.
Especially for those looking for light and short rifle with alot of power and enough reach for most hunting endeavors.

I'm gonna test it. Reload for it, both brass and steel cases.
But I have to modify dies and make dies for it. I have powders that look promising according to QL.

This Federal ammo isn't like Hornady 7 PRC factory ammo preforming 200 fps below box stated velocity...
The 7 BC is shooting 30 to 40 fps, above listed velocity and one loaded box the 170 gr is 100 fps above stated velocity for a 20" barrel at 3104 fps...and very accurate, and low S/Ds when comparing factory ammo.
And ejects with no stiff bolt on this action, like a mild brass load.
A pleasant surprise on range day with this rifle and the new 7mm BC cartridge.
This 7 mm BC is the real deal for hunters.
 

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The 7BC is an answer, looking for a problem.
You are talking extremely short barrel life for what sounds like in your situation, a short range rifle. ( I may be misinterpreting your post)
The 7BC will be dead within another two years. Cases are not reloadable to any degree of satisfaction, ammo is insanely expensive. and the pickings are slim, only to get worse.
Hell, one of the best 7mm cartridges ever designed, the 7 SAUM (and WSM) failed, they were both excellent, accurate cartridges and would do most of what you want.
You mention suppressors, do you have one rated for an 80k PSI cartridge from an 18 inch barrel? You are going to burn an awful lot of powder in the suppressor itself.
Does it have to be a commercially available cartridge?
I have a 7-08AI with a 22" barrel, I'm getting 2800 FPS with 162's with room to spare in the case, I load at 2.9". Very similar in performance to the standard 280, at least the animal wouldn't know the difference.
The standard 7-08 was routinely offered with an 18 inch barrel, a properly throated 7-08 with a properly loaded 160 class bullet you could get 2600 to 2700 with a max charge of sta-ball 6.5.
 
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Major Wader said:
Everyone else, however critical, has brought genuine information that I will use to make an informed decision.

Except you.

You came with attitude and ignorance. And you and your "honest observation" made insulting comments about the "shittiest and most unsuccessful hunters".

Since you know nothing about me or what I have accomplished, and you still brought this ignorant bullshit, please go fuck yourself. Bring an audience if you wish.

I have killed critters with numerous calibers from .22-250 up to .45-70. All of them died. Including the ones shot with a 243, 7mm-08, 280 Ackley, 257 Roberts, 25-06, 7mm Rem Mag, 300 Win mag, several handguns, and numerous other rifle calibers. From 25 to 425 yards. Been almost 15 years since I have had a season with no kills, and that's because I took a few years off from hunting for personal reasons..

I am simply looking for a shorter rifle to do what I already do, and have successfully done for several decades. I have been faithful to a single woman for over 38 years, but I can freely have some variety in my hunting rifles without damaging my relationship.

I am only looking for the next great thing, and it might be a unicorn. I have chased those before, and was happy after.

Posts in this thread have lead me to consider other options, including moving to a 20" 7mm PRC. Your smartass comments, however, simply led me to ignore anything you ever post in the future.

Just an FYI... Again, go fuck yourself.
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Just do like I do. Ignore manually. Sometimes, I find deathbeforedeeznutz funny, other times, I just ignore him. I have more fun that way.

Being here reminds me of the crew I used to work with. Anything you say will be used against you. And if you didn't say anything, one guy I worked with, Curtis, would make something up. Like the time he got everyone to call Jason "Uno," saying that he had a testicle removed when he was in prison.

It's all fun and game until someone's feelings get hurt. Then it's even more fun.

That ding was my microwave done popping a bag of popcorn for me.
 
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The 7BC is an answer, looking for a problem.
You are talking extremely short barrel life for what sounds like in your situation, a short range rifle. ( I may be misinterpreting your post)
The 7BC will be dead within another two years. Cases are not reloadable to any degree of satisfaction, ammo is insanely expensive. and the pickings are slim, only to get worse.
Hell, one of the best 7mm cartridges ever designed, the 7 SAUM (and WSM) failed, they were both excellent, accurate cartridges and would do most of what you want.
You mention suppressors, do you have one rated for an 80k PSI cartridge from an 18 inch barrel? You are going to burn an awful lot of powder in the suppressor itself.
Does it have to be a commercially available cartridge?
I have a 7-08AI with a 22" barrel, I'm getting 2800 FPS with 162's with room to spare in the case, I load at 2.9". Very similar in performance to the standard 280, at least the animal wouldn't know the difference.
The standard 7-08 was routinely offered with an 18 inch barrel, a properly throated 7-08 with a properly loaded 160 class bullet you could get 2600 to 2700 with a max charge of sta-ball 6.5.
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Respectfully, with a hunting rifle, most won't see 200 rounds in 20 years after zero. Most of mine get fired 2-4x per year to confirm zero, then once per critter for the freezer. My best year, I put 7 in the freezer after a 2 shot zero confirmation.

Hard to discuss barrel life at that rate. If I go to the range to play, many other rifles are available for sport.

Suppressor for this application is a Silencerco Hybrid 46, rated for the 338 Lapua. I figure it will do OK with the 7mm Backcountry.

Also, I don't usually reload hunting ammo. If I go with the 7 BC, I'll buy 200 rounds of what it likes and be done forever.
 
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Major Wader said:
Respectfully, with a hunting rifle, most won't see 200 rounds in 20 years after zero. Most of mine get fired 2-4x per year to confirm zero, then once per critter for the freezer. My best year, I put 7 in the freezer after a 2 shot zero confirmation.

Hard to discuss barrel life at that rate. If I go to the range to play, many other rifles are available for sport.

Suppressor for this application is a Silencerco Hybrid 46, rated for the 338 Lapua. I figure it will do OK with the 7mm Backcountry.

Also, I don't usually reload hunting ammo. If I go with the 7 BC, I'll buy 200 rounds of what it likes and be done forever.
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I just shot my new 7 mm BC yesterday...
Today I reloaded my first round.
Just modified an existing forming die, and a neck expanding die.
This is a 180 gr Berger...

Yes it can be reloaded but I already knew that...there are some powders that will give good velocity according to QL and I have them

I also will be loading modified brass cases, waiting for a shipment of bullets and a die to modify.

But you are correct none of this is necessary for the hunter,...
Just buy the factory rounds, look for ammo sales ... some 7 mm BC were 20% off on Labor Day.
I bought 80 rds or 4 boxes plus another Federal discount if you send in the receipts plus a $22 discount for points for buying the rifle.
So it only cost me $35.45 for a $65 box of premium cartridges. And the others were $46. each.
Save points and shop sales...the 7 BC is not any more expensive than similar calibers in the Federal line...some are double the price of the 7 BC...in Weatherby, or Nosler line.
I also reload hybrid cases so it will be interesting to see if I like the Federal steel better.
 

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#30
45-90 said:
Weatherby 307 Alpine CT 20" carbon fiber.
Intresting thing about the action is head space is held to tight toletence, of exactly .899" plus or minus 0". All possible wirh CNC equipment used to manufacture the actions. They have a Rem 700 footprint so 700 triggers and stocks are supposed to be used if they fit the barrel
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How many actions have you measured, and by what method to make this declaration of exact measurements?
Because, that isn't the experience of a few folks that have built rifles with them.
 
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fdkay said:
How many actions have you measured, and by what method to make this declaration of exact measurements?
Because, that isn't the experience of a few folks that have built rifles with them.
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I've measured every action I've built. Bolt or AR barrels from blanks...how else would one get headspace and clearances correct.

That is Weatherbys action specs & claim ...go look it up.
I thought that to be interesting also...but I'm not the only one.
Another builder was putting a barrel on a 307 Action noticed the same statement...or claim. You still have to check, too see if they are correct.
But you can order prefit barrels for it, just thread them on torque to 80 ft/lbs and you're good to go... maybe?
I have not done so.
And of course one would at least check with chamber gauges.
 
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45-90 said:
I've measured every action I've built. Bolt or AR barrels from blanks...how else would one get headspace and clearances correct.

That is Weatherbys action specs & claim ...go look it up.
I thought that to be interesting also...but I'm not the only one.
Another builder was putting a barrel on a 307 Action noticed the same statement...or claim. You still have to check, too see if they are correct.
But you can order prefit barrels for it, just thread them on torque to 80 ft/lbs and you're good to go... maybe?
I have not done so.
And of course one would at least check with chamber gauges.
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Lots of manufacturers make lots of claims.
Regurgitating what is on their website doesn't make it fact.
That being said. The reviews I've seen are positive. The machining pretty well done with much of the variation attributed to the finish applied.
It appears you have had great success with it.
I'm wondering if you ever built on a solus action, as they are close in price and what your thoughts were.
Did you use a savage Pic rail for your optics mount solution.
 
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I have not built on a Solus action. Seems like a lot of new actions have cropped during the last few years, and most would likely make good actions for a nice custom rifle build.

One thing many people do not realize that CNC machines used in todays manufacturing can hold tolerences to 2 ten thousandths of an inch repeatedly.
So all the actions a company builds could be "basically" exactly the same. No issue with headspace or bolt clearances, just prefit barrels that are exactly on spec, easily within plus .002" minus 0" on headspace at a certain torque.
I just use manual lathes and Bridgeport mill, so it's more involved on with each project being individual, and not thousands of clones.
I've used a variety of optic mounts over the yrs. from many manufacturers. I don't recall a Savage pic rail.
 
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