Think he is telling the Tallies “Either you give it to us and we pay for it, or we just take it. Your choice. “??
I think it’s a good idea. It would be such a stark contrast from how Biden screwed us over. We’d get at least a sliver of dignity back.
Trump wants Bagram back.
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Think he is telling the Tallies “Either you give it to us and we pay for it, or we just take it. Your choice. “??
I think it’s a good idea. It would be such a stark contrast from how Biden screwed us over. We’d get at least a sliver of dignity back.
This time around, we'd probably do well to NOT hoist Rainbow flags anywhere, like the State Department did over the US Embassy under the last "administration". I have a feeling that WON'T be happening this time.
This is got me thinking about exactly what would it take to forcibly liberate Bagram. Let’s take guesses.
I vote a first wave of fast movers hitting any AA installations, followed by 3 specter gunships, parachute in a couple A- teams and then 200 rangers. Toss in 2 Apache’s if you can get them there. Secure the airfield first and the rest at their leisure.
I vote a first wave of fast movers hitting any AA installations, followed by 3 specter gunships, parachute in a couple A- teams and then 200 rangers. Toss in 2 Apache’s if you can get them there. Secure the airfield first and the rest at their leisure.
What ever happened to "Speak softly and carry a big stick"?
Not seeing the charm...
I failed to see the charm in killing 13 service members, abandoning several billion dollars in equipment and leaving thousands of US citizens and people who helped us to die.
But then again, I'm not democrat.
You’ll have to settle for Ghostrider. The last Spectre retired about 10 years ago.
I am literally an SME on what you are talking about.
Airfield would be operational and you would have the base quasi secured and posts manned to repel counterattacks much, much faster than anyone here would guess unless they were Rangers or certain SOF elements prior.
So we spent 20 years invading and occupying Afghanistan
(like every self respecting empire tries to do)
Once we ran out of money and blood to spend, we left in a nice big mess with the country a fair bit worse off than before and of course the same folks back in power.
Now apparently Trump thinks "We deserve" their country again and he wants them to just hand us a military base or else?
Remember we spent 20+ years occupying their country, killing their freedom fighters and such and they won by not backing down and being willing to spend more blood than us. Why would they ever want to agree to the same foreign invaders being invited back again?
Trump (and many jingoists in the USA) are truly delusional in their ideas.
The Taliban should just tell Trump to go pound sand and sure if you want to come grab it, we can't stop you, but good luck holding it...
Especially now that the USA has essentially started a not so cold war with Russia and is gearing up for a war with China, I'll bet both would be happy to help return the favour...
I guess Trump thinks he is the god emperor of the world and can just go invade, or take whatever he wants from any other country.
Perhaps the Taliban should just print a bunch of copies of the Epstien list and leave them all over the area and then magically it would stop being of any interest to Trump...
(like every self respecting empire tries to do)
Once we ran out of money and blood to spend, we left in a nice big mess with the country a fair bit worse off than before and of course the same folks back in power.
Now apparently Trump thinks "We deserve" their country again and he wants them to just hand us a military base or else?
Remember we spent 20+ years occupying their country, killing their freedom fighters and such and they won by not backing down and being willing to spend more blood than us. Why would they ever want to agree to the same foreign invaders being invited back again?
Trump (and many jingoists in the USA) are truly delusional in their ideas.
The Taliban should just tell Trump to go pound sand and sure if you want to come grab it, we can't stop you, but good luck holding it...
Especially now that the USA has essentially started a not so cold war with Russia and is gearing up for a war with China, I'll bet both would be happy to help return the favour...
I guess Trump thinks he is the god emperor of the world and can just go invade, or take whatever he wants from any other country.
Perhaps the Taliban should just print a bunch of copies of the Epstien list and leave them all over the area and then magically it would stop being of any interest to Trump...
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First knees.
I am generally with you. I would make an exception for Bagram. Until you stand on the ground there you don't get it.
You are correct that I have never stood in Afghanistan. I have spent plenty of time in Kuwait and Iraq from Desert Storm through OIF. The entire region is a shit hole not worth American lives or money.
Runways can handle literally anything US mil.
It is 1 hr from China's nuke center.
You can project strike power anywhere in China or Russia from that base.
It is endlessly defensible. If I want to keep it, you will not take it from me almost no matter what.
It has ramp space. This is underrated by most people. During the withdrawal, the amount of C17 and C5s parked there all at the same time was mind blowing.
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