For argument's sake- lets say you found yourself having dinner with the world's foremost WWII historian- what would you ask them?

#51
Was the mustache man wrong?

6 million pizzas in that short of time doesnt sound plausible, bullshit number bumps or legit?

Why have a gluttonous drunk run the Luftwaffe?

Why didn’t H man listen to his HAND PICKED military leaders when planning attacks/defensive measures?
And so many more questions. Never understood that about how much fuckery a one nut having, failed artist did that baffles me.
 
#53
sirhrmechanic said:
The Germans had no intention of invading Greece or getting there through Yugo...

But the bloviating idiot Mussolini (watch me swing from my toes, Hitler!) tried to invade Greece and fucked it up so Bad that the Germans had to clean up the mess. Sort of like they fucked up Ethiopia. And Libya. And became a millstone around the Austrian Painter's neck for the whole war. Sort of the Fiat of invading armies.

This Italian adventure diverted quite a few German divisions from the planned USSR invasion... and delayed Barbarossa significantly. This delay cost the Germans Moscow. Not the war. But Moscow.

Loss of Moscow would not likely have caused USSR to "Surrender" as they would have still moved everything East into the Urals. including the Politburo. Which they did anyway... all the factories and economy. So nothing would have really changed, except Moscow would have been destroyed. But the Wehrmacht would have taken Moscow almost certainly if they had another month of weather. Which would have had a psychological impact on the war... If not an ultimate outcome change.

Read Richard Overy... Why the Allies Won. From the '70s. An economists analysis of WW2. And he showed beyond reasonable doubt that the Krauts, Wops and Nips were finished before it started. It all came down to economics. And the Axis were too stupid to do the math. You know... racial supremacy and all that. Including the Dagos... who thought they were Roman Legions or something. When, really, they had spent 1800 years drinking water out of lead pipes and fought accordingly.

The Best of Italy migrated to New York in the early 1900's... Just 'sayin!

Cheers,

Sirhr
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I will look up Richard Overy. And appreciate the informed responses! Good stuff.
 
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#55
War is based on deception. History was written by those that lie and deceive us the most and continue to do so today. What its true intent and what went on behind the scenes we'll never know. If we had no internet and were forced to get our info from the news like in the 40's we'd all be convinced right now that Trump is the equivalent to Hitler, or at least what we were told Hitler was. We certainly profited from the war, everything we stole out of it. People, technology, who knows what else. The entire NASA team was formed with nazi scientists. FBI documents show we knew Hitler escaped to Argentina. Most what we were told was BS.. So a WWII "Historian" is not much more than a circus clown at this point.
My question would be - Did we make a deal with Hitler and the Nazis? ... and is that why the jews want to destroy this country still?
 
#57
Milf Dots said:
As a Christian Conservative, I'm amazed at the things people believe. Thank God the anti-Semites (and/or haters of Law Enforcement) are such a small fringe of the Conservative movement. It's almost like some conservatives are democrats.
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Then its just a coincidence that they are involved in so many things? Epstein, 9/11, Kirk.. While not being directly involved its just by chance they are tied to so many aspects of everything. If being an anti-semite means you dont trust the Israel govt... I'll proudly wear that badge. Im amazed at those that assume fabricated identities to then make their minds up for them what they see and hear.
 
#58
i'll say that,as far as WW2 goes,there has been a lot of bad info out there for many diff reasons. not all historians are fakers,however. you really have to read well more than 1 source to get much of a picture on anything. helps to know their sources. learn what you can,form an opinion or belief and modify when more evidence shows up. IMHO re WW2,the stuff written from '90 going forward is more credible than the stuff from the 40s and 50s.
 
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Got it on the way.

Hopefully I am capable of reading and comprehending it.
 
#61
Milf Dots said:
As a Christian Conservative, I'm amazed at the things people believe. Thank God the anti-Semites (and/or haters of Law Enforcement) are such a small fringe of the Conservative movement. It's almost like some conservatives are democrats.
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It is far more accurate to say that mainstream Christianity, and by association, mainstream conservatism, has been indoctrinated for ages to 'believe' that Israel is special and their shits don't stink.

On the other hand, Jesus said, (paraphrased) "You think your special because your Jews? God could make Jews out of those rocks." And, those who have truly accepted Christ are adopted into the family.

Jews aren't special, Israel isn't a gift from God, and they sure aren't our ally, they're playing on your ignorance.

@Defiantly_Not_Bender
 
#66
Maggot said:
Not saying it is or isn't so but can you produce the evidence of that? Those Argentinian women certainly have some Aryan genes in there. Better than Sidney Sweeney.
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I dont have anything. It was on the Hunting HItler series with Tim Kennedy, they showed the documents that the FBI had and did nothing. Seems logical, the empire they had, what they created, their efforts, and how huge their bunkers, tunnels, technology, war effort... etc.. were... why would they not have an escape route? Lies and deception... thats how our govt works. I find it more believable than what our govt says. The tech boom after the war came from somewhere and we'd have done anything for it to get it before the Russians... so I dont doubt we made a deal with Hitler one bit.
 
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Green461 said:
I dont have anything. It was on the Hunting HItler series with Tim Kennedy, they showed the documents that the FBI had and did nothing. Seems logical, the empire they had, what they created, their efforts, and how huge their bunkers, tunnels, technology, war effort... etc.. were... why would they not have an escape route? Lies and deception... thats how our govt works. I find it more believable than what our govt says. The tech boom after the war came from somewhere and we'd have done anything for it to get it before the Russians... so I dont doubt we made a deal with Hitler one bit.
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Tim Kennedy, the stolen valor fraud? You believe him?
 
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Green461 said:
I dont have anything. It was on the Hunting HItler series with Tim Kennedy, they showed the documents that the FBI had and did nothing. Seems logical, the empire they had, what they created, their efforts, and how huge their bunkers, tunnels, technology, war effort... etc.. were... why would they not have an escape route? Lies and deception... thats how our govt works. I find it more believable than what our govt says. The tech boom after the war came from somewhere and we'd have done anything for it to get it before the Russians... so I dont doubt we made a deal with Hitler one bit.
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That's thin.
 
#69
The Wehrmacht invaded Russia with most of their fuel and supplies being pulled by horses and most of its infantry on foot. So they were moving pretty slow. Yet they captured hundreds of thousands of Russian troops in the opening weeks of Barbarossa. The Luftwaffe’s relatively short range fighters destroyed hundreds on Russian fighters on the first day. What were all those Russian soldiers and planes doing that close to central/Western Europe? What do you think they were doing? Prepping for the world’s largest picnic?
 
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Milf Dots said:
No Adolf, fuck you and your fellow anti-Semitic, anti-Christian, anti-American, Nazi Trantifa enablers!

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Neither ignorance, nor obstinance are suitable counters to cognitive dissonance. You remind me of those so called Christians who go around yelling at people, "You saved? You're going to hell if you ain't saved." And then determining they're going to hell because you were dipped instead of submersed.Or because you say "Yeshua" in stead of "Jesus". You might want to get the tre out of your eye before you go picking at a splinter in someone welses. Grow up.
 
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