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I’ve given it a lot of thought, and it looks like I’m an idiot.

TheHorta

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  • Jan 17, 2014
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    Got me a new toy Saturday (see purdy faux toes below). A factory new Barrett M107A1. Today was the first chance I had to put a few rounds through her. I grabbed a spare SB PMII 3-27x56 H59 “High Power” scope I had kicking around and a Spuhr 4902 I’d rattle-canned and forgot about to mount it in.

    I populate the lone mag that came with the rifle with 10 rounds of Barrett-stamped M33 ball, load up the Ranger, and scooter out to my private range to sight it in. Because these were going to be the first rounds on the rifle since leaving the factory, I decided to feed the first few as singles and keep the magazine detached, just in case I put it together wrong, it blows up, and takes my arms with it.

    Knowing the Spuhr is 20 MOA, with the scope set to 0/0 wind/elevation, I put the crosshair at the base of the target, backed by a small berm. I’d rather have it impact the ground ahead of the target rather than risk sending one over the berm and off my property. Fortunately, there is nothing but at least 1,000 yards of dense woods behind the range — but still, the Big Five Oh has me a bit worried.

    The first shot on a brand new gun always triggers a slight twinge of “what if” with me, and the thought of a .50 BMG round exploding directly in front of my face amplifies that a smidge.

    The round goes off without a hitch, and I breathe a small sigh of relief, but... I didn’t see an impact anywhere — ground, target, berm... nada.

    I walk out looking for any sign of impact, but nothing. I’m only shooting at the 100-yard target, to minimized any calculated MOA discrepancy due to the 20MOA mount.

    I point the crosshair a few feet in front of the berm and let another go. Still no sign of impact.

    I have zero idea where these rounds went, and that’s never a good thing with this caliber. Even with 1,000 yards of dense woods, nothing is a given.

    I decide to line up on the 50-yard berm and hang a fresh 12x18” reactive target. Surely, no misalignment could be severe enough to miss THAT! I put the crosshair on the center of the bullseye and squeeze one off. WTF! NADA again!

    Now I’m worried. WTH is going on? The scope is mounted properly, but I don’t know where my .50 laser boresight is, so I have to figure this out with the few remaining brain cells I have.

    I examine the rail on the 107 more closely and notice a taper — there’s 27 MOA I didn’t account for! On top of that, the Spuhr 4902 is a 30 MOA mount, not 20! So, without touching the elevation knob, I’m 57 efffin’ MOA high! Nearly 5-FEET at 100 yards! My small berms are 4-feet tall. I’m sailing .50 BMG rounds 5-feet above the ground into the woods. My rifle bore is about 3-4 feet above the ground (picnic table — see below), meaning the rounds are still climbing slightly at 100-yards.

    I traced the path of the rounds and there was nothing to be worried about in terms of population, livestock or structures — fortunately. But it was a valuable “lesson“ in proper preparation instead of just slapping something together and heading to the range.

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    Mercy! Good reminder to check and double check a new set up. At least it was a lesson learned without ringing a bell you can’t un-ring.
     
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    The points you lost in your mistake you gain back with having a sweet setup. You probably made some firewood for next year in the process
     
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    Is it not possible to look down the bore with the scope mounted? If you are careful about looking through the center of the bore, it should be possible to get within about six inches at 100 yards (this also assumes you can support it in a way that it is stable and not moving as you go back and forth between looking down the bore and the scope).
     
    Is it not possible to look down the bore with the scope mounted? If you are careful about looking through the center of the bore, it should be possible to get within about six inches at 100 yards (this also assumes you can support it in a way that it is stable and not moving as you go back and forth between looking down the bore and the scope).

    Not really with that gun. I thought of that but the way the barrel is mounted makes it difficult.
     
    Question: Rail is 27-MOA. Spuhr is 30-MOA. If I reverse the Spuhr, will I now have -7 MOA net?

    Or is that not how it works?
     
    Question: Rail is 27-MOA. Spuhr is 30-MOA. If I reverse the Spuhr, will I now have -7 MOA net?

    Or is that not how it works?
    You’d have -3 MOA, which shouldn’t be a huge problem for your scope travel. And your bubble level on the Spuhr would be facing the wrong way.
     
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    You’d have -3 MOA, which shouldn’t be a huge problem for your scope travel. And your bubble level on the Spuhr would be facing the wrong way.

    Massage Chair Math. I was in the Big Kahuna when I replied. Lol.

    Not too concerned about the level. My private range maxes out at 300 yards, so Zero MOA or thereabouts works best.

    Does anyone know of a range within 2-3 hours of Gadsden, Alabama that would accommodate a 107?
     
    I still would not call you an idiot you picked up on quite a lot admission is a good first step taking action to change a negitive and make it into a learning situation is also a good thing . An idiot would still be shooting 50 cal rounds 5 feet over his intended target never being able to correct the problem cause they could and would never find the problem or a solution to that problem much luck in your future to you and your gun you can do it .
     
    What does Redstone offer for civilians?

    It's been a long time, trying to remember... Went to Swan Creek a lot as a kid.

    There's a lot of open land around Brown's Ferry as I recall but not sure about today because things changed there so much.

    If you find you want a lighter suppressed bolt gun with extras, let me know, maybe we can trade (HTI). Last trade fell through because the guy wasn't allowed to own the suppressor.

    Let me know too if you're looking for a kickass FAL with lots of mags and extras or a 1006 with mags, springs and Milt Sparks rig. Liquidating or trading for good optics (or maybe a thermal even).
     
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    Resistance is futile.

    After I picked it up on Saturday, my scrotum was noticeably larger when I woke up on Sunday and my wife had the coffee ready and waiting for me. Scientists call it “The Barrett Effect.”
    I have a Barrett. I don't have a Bigg-Fiddy ™ .
     
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    Massage Chair Math. I was in the Big Kahuna when I replied. Lol.

    Not too concerned about the level. My private range maxes out at 300 yards, so Zero MOA or thereabouts works best.

    Does anyone know of a range within 2-3 hours of Gadsden, Alabama that would accommodate a 107?

    Add one more hour and you can get to to the K&M facility in Finger, TN. They go out to 1200 yards, but I don't know about caliber limitations. That's the problem with big bores in the southeast. I'm in Atlanta and can hardly find anywhere to shoot my 338.
     
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