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It’s started....

We are a reasonably homogenous group- look at the emotion and chaotic posts in these 10 pages


IT'S US against the elected Assholes... not Blue VS red




And a reminder- at these events- when shit goes sideways..... your freedom and life are in the mix... Talk with all the kids in your life- nieces, nephews, cousins...

Logic wins... but logic is boring....
Could you tell all the blue guys this so they quit shooting at the red guys?
 
I can't believe there are people in 2020 still arguing that carrying condition 3 can be "just as quick" or "just as good" as condition 1, but more safe. Bullshit. I'm not going sit here and tell anyone what to do, because despite what others have said here, I still believe carrying condition 3 is better than not carrying at all. But the fact of the matter is that during a bad day, you might only have one good hand when it's time to draw. This isn't just mental masturbation: there is tons of security cam footage out there showing exactly what one of those bad days might look like. I'll link one at the bottom. Your other hand might be injured or otherwise disabled in the attack. You might need your other hand to push the attack off/away to give you room to draw. You might have something in your other hand that prevents you from using it immediately. Maybe in the heat of the moment, you short stroke the slide despite your hours of training. I could go on, but go out there and review the footage yourself. Yes, I'm sure you can find videos of NDs from people carrying in condition 0/1, but it's almost always the fault of the carrier. Simply put, you can always train and control your own actions; you can never predict or control the actions of others.

Chances are you'll never need to use your CCW. Chances are that if you do need to use your CCW, and you're well trained, you'll be able to adequately defend yourself from condition 3. But chances are also that the reason you carry a CCW in the first place is because you know that statistics mean nothing to the individual. That said, only you can decide what you're comfortable with. Some people swear off different kinds of safeties or safeties altogether because they want less obstacles between them and the firearm going bang when they need it. Other people may not carry a mag in their pistol at all.

The only thing that's not up for debate is regardless of what condition you carry your CCW in, if you have an ND from condition 0/1 or lose a gunfight in condition 2-4, and it's caught on video, you'll be Monday-morning-quarterbacked on internet forums until the end of time.

 
Having a gun that’s ready to go is 95% of it. We can argue forever about the other 5%.
We are a reasonably homogenous group- look at the emotion and chaotic posts in these 10 pages


IT'S US against the elected Assholes... not Blue VS red




And a reminder- at these events- when shit goes sideways..... your freedom and life are in the mix... Talk with all the kids in your life- nieces, nephews, cousins...

Logic wins... but logic is boring....
“Logic” is apparently white Supremacist now according to critical race theory and the Smithsonian...
 
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The closest thing to Keith Olbermann is the Rwandan radio station urging Hutus to Slaughter Tutsis. He is certainly testing the limits of free speech when he openly calls for genocide.
 
The closest thing to Keith Olbermann is the Rwandan radio station urging Hutus to Slaughter Tutsis. He is certainly testing the limits of free speech when he openly calls for genocide.

Keith Olbermann has lost his damn mind
 
Looks to me to be murder and dead guy responded with what he had to defend himself.

Gun is already in recoil.

Shooter must have already had gun out.

Spray lasts all of a second from other perspective....

Pretty good grip, RDS, not fucking around....

Expect escalation unless cops stomp this shit out.

Hmmm, wonder if gun is going back into battery.....shot than spray?

White smoke at the muzzle, and position of the slide would indicate the pistol IS going back into battery.
 
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Not sure what y'all got out of that, but I was just making an ugly-woman joke.

I tried a few times to word the explanation correctly but when you’re at a loss for words, go to the source for help.
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When shit hits the fan anything goes.

Typically I pull over and resecure it in a retention device
 
......But the fact of the matter is that during a bad day, you might only have one good hand when it's time to draw.......You might need your other hand to push the attack off/away to give you room to draw. You might have something in your other hand that prevents you from using it immediately.



For those who carry in Condition negative-5 ;)
 


For those who carry in Condition negative-5 ;)


That's the drill Operators practice in case they get attacked while cleaning their pistol. Operators always wear a gas mask while cleaning weapons because of the noxious fumes from solvents. You see he simulates getting his arm blown off but yet continues to assemble the weapon and return fire. I wonder if they practice that with the weak hand too?
 
That's the drill Operators practice in case they get attacked while cleaning their pistol. Operators always wear a gas mask while cleaning weapons because of the noxious fumes from solvents. You see he simulates getting his arm blown off but yet continues to assemble the weapon and return fire. I wonder if they practice that with the weak hand too?


Dude gets an Emmy for being so focused and staying in Character all the way through gazing at his awesomeness on target. WTF! :ROFLMAO:

Not impressed with the manual dexterity shit at all. I've seen girls in Pattaya Beach stuff a ball of string up their Hoo Hoo and squeeze out a daisy chain of tied ribbons. Now that's impressive. And as far as racking in a kneeling position, no need. Lift your fucking foot up Jimmy and giver a go, or better yet, save the wear and tear on your keds and use your belt/pocket/the table right in front of you, you got lots of options.

So ya, back in Thailand...........
 
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I tried a few times to word the explanation correctly but when you’re at a loss for words, go to the source for help. View attachment 7445528
I figured that’s what you meant but I do tend to think of it more as the “burn” response and wanted to clarify it wasn’t directed at anyone here, etc. I got the idea Tex might’ve thought I was defending the commie maybe?
 


For those who carry in Condition negative-5 ;)

He’s on the red team right? That was me a few days ago trying to work my phone camera while the kid that hit my car was fleeing the scene.
it just goes to show, younever know when your gonna have to shoot a cardboard enemy after sneaking your gun in pieces into a range while wearing mop gear with a literal hand behind your back.
 
I like the way Scot Baio puts it...

 
I like the way Scot Baio puts it...




Don't get mad Howard, but honestly, I never in a thousand years woulda figured you a Chachi fanboy. Just say'n. ;)


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And just where does he put it? AFAF
 
Scott Baio has been a pretty solid American during this whole coup.

ChaChi was hitting Joanie, cant be all bad.
 
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''Denver television station 9News says its employees were unaware that Matthew Dolloff, a private security guard hired to protect them, was armed before Saturday’s fatal shooting as dueling protests wrapped up in Civic Center Park.

In fact, the station says that when it contracted with the security company Pinkerton to protect its journalists at protests it specifically requested that guards not carry a gun.''
“None of 9News’ crew accompanied by Mr. Dolloff on Saturday were aware that he was armed.”

Pinkerton said in a statement that Dolloff wasn’t actually one of its employees, describing him as a “contractor agent from a long-standing industry vendor.” The statement didn’t specify which vendor he worked for. The statement also didn’t address why Dolloff was armed when 9News had asked otherwise.

9News said it has been hiring private security to accompany staff at protests for “a number of months.”

Attorney Doug Richards, who said he is representing Dolloff’s family, says Dolloff was acting in self-defense and that he feared for his safety when Keltner reached into his shirt during the seconds-long confrontation leading up the shooting.

“He was doing what he was supposed to be doing there,” Richards said.

The Denver Post reports that Richards says Dolloff was also armed while he was working security Friday night for the U.S. Senate debate between Republican incumbent Cory Gardner and Democrat John Hickenlooper, which was held at the studio of television station Denver7. The newspaper says that Denver7 specifically asked Pinkerton for unarmed guards for the event.

Dolloff did have a permit to carry a concealed weapon in Colorado issued by his local sheriff’s office but it was suspended Monday because of the allegations against him. Elbert County Sheriff Tim Norton said he will decide whether Dolloff will get the five-year permit back based on what happens in the criminal case.
 
His story is retarded since we have all the pictures and video. Dolloff is the only person who reached for a gun, period.
M is for murder. D is for doofus. L is for lying lawyer.
 
''Denver television station 9News says its employees were unaware that Matthew Dolloff, a private security guard hired to protect them, was armed before Saturday’s fatal shooting as dueling protests wrapped up in Civic Center Park.

In fact, the station says that when it contracted with the security company Pinkerton to protect its journalists at protests it specifically requested that guards not carry a gun.''
“None of 9News’ crew accompanied by Mr. Dolloff on Saturday were aware that he was armed.”

Pinkerton said in a statement that Dolloff wasn’t actually one of its employees, describing him as a “contractor agent from a long-standing industry vendor.” The statement didn’t specify which vendor he worked for. The statement also didn’t address why Dolloff was armed when 9News had asked otherwise.

9News said it has been hiring private security to accompany staff at protests for “a number of months.”

Attorney Doug Richards, who said he is representing Dolloff’s family, says Dolloff was acting in self-defense and that he feared for his safety when Keltner reached into his shirt during the seconds-long confrontation leading up the shooting.

“He was doing what he was supposed to be doing there,” Richards said.

The Denver Post reports that Richards says Dolloff was also armed while he was working security Friday night for the U.S. Senate debate between Republican incumbent Cory Gardner and Democrat John Hickenlooper, which was held at the studio of television station Denver7. The newspaper says that Denver7 specifically asked Pinkerton for unarmed guards for the event.

Dolloff did have a permit to carry a concealed weapon in Colorado issued by his local sheriff’s office but it was suspended Monday because of the allegations against him. Elbert County Sheriff Tim Norton said he will decide whether Dolloff will get the five-year permit back based on what happens in the criminal case.
Sounds like a good case of negligence against both 9news and Pinkerton.........
 
Dude gets an Emmy for being so focused and staying in Character all the way through gazing at his awesomeness on target. WTF! :ROFLMAO:

Not impressed with the manual dexterity shit at all. I've seen girls in Pattaya Beach stuff a ball of string up their Hoo Hoo and squeeze out a daisy chain of tied ribbons. Now that's impressive. And as far as racking in a kneeling position, no need. Lift your fucking foot up Jimmy and giver a go, or better yet, save the wear and tear on your keds and use your belt/pocket/the table right in front of you, you got lots of options.

So ya, back in Thailand...........
Don’t leave us hanging.. you were saying something about ribbons?
 
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Black Guns Matter agitator was seen earlier in a huddle with the 'reporter/cameraman' and shooter. He then approached and infiltrated the Patriot Muster group and when the Patriot Muster group was disbursing and walking away BGM agitator started agitating and becoming vocal, challenging the victim to spray him, while keeping the shooter in his peripheral vision.

The shooter and reporter stood by and watched, the victim saw the reporter videoing him and walked over over and told him to stop, the shooter intervened and put his hands on the victim, the victim bitch slapped the shooter and stepped back and sprayed while at the same time the shooter stepped back and shot.

BGM agitator jeered and laughed when the victim was shot.
 
@Fig - Lying Lawyer is redundant. Just saying.
I will give guys here a chance to prove that wrong as I know we have some attorneys and I am aware there are good ones.

My old buddy Dave is a lawyer, judge now. Seriously, only ever clerked for judges after school before being appointed as a judge.
Smart dude. Fierce Constitutionalist. Which is why he probably doesn't like lawyers

Shoots an M1 (LRB) and an old Series 70 Colt. Also some other nice stuff, but he was badass with those when most couldn't hit jack with an AR and a Glock.

He is a year or 2 younger than me!
 
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Don’t leave us hanging.. you were saying something about ribbons?


So ya, there I was at Caligula's, belly up to the Bar Pit with my Singha and a case of the Seafood Squirts. Just got done clapping so hard and soooo looong for the previous act that my hands were sore, like my loins after not drinking enough tainted water and running wild on liberty for a week in Rut! The previous show was "Blow Dart Girl" popping Balloons attached to a stained Tack Board. The velocity and accuracy outta that Straw those projectiles 'came' outta of was impressive, and so was the muscle control. Anywho, enter "Daisy Chain Girl". :love: Hang on, we gotta Booking..........
 
WTF! Did you go to Thailand without me AGAIN?


We'll squeeze in our "Sex Tour" after COVID. Just gives me the heebie geebies thinking of all the possibilities. COVID, Crabs, Aids, Herpes, The Drip, Pink Eye, you name it. And we're going in Bareback! Ya Big Pussy. :ROFLMAO:
 
Even though this thread went way off the rails, here is the follow up on this shooting.


The murdered guy's family needs to take a page out of the playbook of the other side and sue the guy who did the shooting, the "news" outlet that hired an illegal armed guard and the reporter who egged him on as well as the vile Pinkertons who were hiring out random gunmen as illegal security guards.