Hornady 147 GR ELDM QUESTION

Yes. It's normal variance - they're not all coming off the same die, and dies and tools wear. If you want consistency, I think Hornady boxes sequential A-tips bullets in each box for this reason.

Very few weight sort their bullets anymore.

Edit: grammar.

Yes, this is normal for this bullet...

BERGER!!!

And stop yelling...

Can you shoot the difference lol?

Definitely +1 for berger, I doubt there a more consistent bullet out there

Um.... We just established that your calipers aren't working correctly

https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/noob-question.7034878/

What is your deal?

My point is that you are over-analyzing precision-produced items with less than precise tools. It's like "here we go again."

Also:
(a) you don't have confidence in your ammo. So just pick something else. Or, I don't know, go shoot it and see how it does; and
(b)

Load it and shoot it. You won't be able to tell the difference.

stello1001 said:

BERGER!!!

And stop yelling...

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SIERRA!

YOU STOP YELLING

mr.quick said:

If you say I have less then precise tools ,why does hornady issue out that scale , I am only weighing their bullets with their scale .

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Because its cheap and suckers like you buy it?


The little changes in weight will make zero difference.

mr.quick said:

Explain this to me MCHOG

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You sharpied the bullet??!?!

Everyone knows that ruins the scale's precise internal gravitational mechanisms! It will only ever be accurate to +/- 1 gn now. I recommend replacing it with a Sartorius immediately.

With that particular bullet you are likely going to see some of them explode in mid flight. This is an issue that Hornady still hasn’t gotten fixed.
If you want to be this precise with your reloading, I would encourage you to upgrade your scale to the FX120i as @MCHOG has pictured above.
If the variation in bullet weight bothers you, you can always sort them and then load accordingly.
Happy loading,
Josh

mr.quick said:

I am asking this questions because I am new to the reloading world ,and barely learning this . Yes I am going to upgrade my scale and caliper, and for that bullet ,I will use it for hunting at no more than 100 yds .
What do you think on the 140 gr hollow point from hornady ?

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I like that bullet. I loaded some up yesterday for my 6.5 PRC.
It takes a lot of time to accumulate all the best equipment. You are doing fine.
Remember, the only stupid question is the one that isn’t asked. This forum should be a place where people can come and learn and that is what you are trying to do.

TheOfficeT-Rex said:

You sharpied the bullet??!?!

Everyone knows that ruins the scale's precise internal gravitational mechanisms! It will only ever be accurate to +/- 1 gn now. I recommend replacing it with a Sartorius immediately.

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This is one I haven’t heard of.

mr.quick said:

The sharpie messes the scale ? If so I didn’t know that .
Yes. I am going to replace it ASAP even before I start loading , that is for sure .
Thanks for your opinion.

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The sharpie doesn't mess with the scale. He was joking by making a sarcastic remark about the sharpie marks affecting how the scale works. It is not true. I know you're just starting, but don't be discouraged. I started with a scale like that and made some great ammunition.

Some people on here make sarcastic comments. There is a lot of great information on here and you will learn to filter out the nonsense of people who aren't helpful.

This isn’t the Bear Pit. This guy is new to reloading and I think we can try and help him instead of give him BS information.

Weve helped him, it was all in the second post. What he is describing makes no difference for the best, a new reloader is sure as hell not going to be able to discern the difference. Especially not with a $15 scale.

As someone who was new to loading not that many years ago, don’t stress out about really small differences. I used to obsess about it but the truth is most of us can not out shoot our equipment and components these days.

It will only stress you out and make reloading a chore instead of fun and interesting Your other brass prep, neck tension consistency and powder measuring will have a far greater effect then a bullet weight variation will.

Load them shoot them and have fun! Your reloading batches will get better and better as you go

147/146.6 is 1.0027 difference. You are not going to notice a 1/4 of a percent That’s actually a really great Weight Es

I’m willing to bet if I go check a few boxes of my eld m bullets they will be way worse then that and they have shot great to 1200yds

But also if they don’t shoot well try some Berger’s. I love eldm bullets but they have not shot great in all my guns

So those 2 pics you uploaded of your scale...that product has been discontinued by Hornady. Based on what I can find online, it was discontinued probably a long time ago so I don't know what kit you got it with. Also in your pic, right above the "mode" and "on/off" buttons, the light distortion gives me the impression the unit is damaged. Lastly, after looking all over the place trying to find someone who actually sells it (seems everyone is out of stock. probably because Hornady discontinued it ages ago) I was able to find plenty of negative reviews like these: https://gun.deals/product/hornady-electronic-scale-1500-grains-3359-fsss

Based on this information I wouldn't touch that scale with YOUR 10 foot pole. You seem to be looking for precision but keep using sub standard equipment to measure to said precision. Precision reloading costs money. You don't need to buy top of the line especially when you're just getting started but you ARE going to have to spend some money. Get used to the idea.

+1 on a better scale.

I would definetely get a different scale. Those inexpensive digital ones will give you nothing but heartache and make you question everything. Spend the money on the big dollar ones if you got it. But even a rcbs chargemaster or chargemaster lite will give adequate ammo for match shooting

My advice is load more and shoot more especially if you are starting prs style match shooting If you are anything like me you can waste a lot of “perfect” ammo by missing targets from not practicing positional shooting and the panic when that timer buzzer goes off I have sent a lot of good ammo into the dirt from my shooting errors that had nothing to do with the quality of ammo

Also listen to the everyday sniper podcast with the Berger no bs bc series. There is some great info in there. Modern day sniper with Scott Satterlee is a good one too. Scott will ease your stress about reloading lol

In your last thread your calipers are of by .02" and now your scale is off.

Do you live near the Bermuda triangle?

Don't get discouraged. You don't need the best equipment, and definitely don't need a scale like mine to get good results. You will find on this site and others reviews and tests that identify perfectly adequate equipment at very reasonable prices. BUT, you do appear to be the type that obsesses over details. If that is the case, then you will eventually want equipment that is more expensive than the value it will bring to an average shooter.

My suggestion would be to first use whatever equipment you currently have (maybe spend $40 on a new caliper) to load some ammo and see how it shoots. If you are not satisfied, and are reasonably convinced that it is the ammo that is the problem, spend some considerable time reading (not posting) on this site in the reloading section, and take notes on methods and equipment that people recommend. Take those recommendations in the context that they are given. Are they F Class guys talking about getting competitive, hunters trying to hit a vital zone at 300 yards, PRS guys shooting ~300-800 yards and managing wind?

I'm guessing that if you ultimately spend $50-$100 on a caliper and $100-$250 on a scale, and you use methods recommended by names that will be familiar to you after you do some reading here, your ammo will be better than your shooting and will not hold you back.

The best part about the 147 bullet is when it pulls a Houdini on you.