I see these troll posts and imagine a big greasy dude in his mothers basement covered in cheeto dust looking like a maniac.
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How about this.
every member submit an essay on what makes America great, wrong answers will be removed
every member submit an essay on what makes America great, wrong answers will be removed
That looks like the usual suspects you have messing with any large social site these days, not so much targeted based on the forum focus itself.
I have. Biden is terrible on almost everything he has an opinion on. Trump is significantly worse. You seem to be misunderstanding me and are working admirably to have me defend claims I've never made. It's cute, but also a great demonstration of some of the more deeply rooted issues at play. I'm just waiting on the Lion and Tin Man to show up at this point.
Aligning gun rights explicitly with a political party and not working to build enthusiasm and advocacy within the opposing party (or at least their constituents) is a mistake, particularly when the demographic trends of the favored party have suggested its ever increasing irrelevance. This doesn't mean Dems like your rights, obviously they don't, but it does mean you should focus on more than one front if you want long term success. But please, continue preaching to the choir and wondering why the congregation is shrinking. Be sure to hitch your wagon to issues that have nothing to do with 2A advocacy as well, that'll give you more room to maneuver and maximize your impact.
It's more tangentially related, but I'd check out Kilcullen's "Out of the Mountains: The Coming Age of the Urban Guerilla" for some insights into the types of mistakes I see being made.
All ya'll advocating for not acknowledging differences in ability sound like a bunch of 'commies'. Woops.
Lowlight: Let me know if you'd rather I stfu. Just passing the time, but it's your ball.
I have. Biden is terrible on almost everything he has an opinion on. Trump is significantly worse. You seem to be misunderstanding me and are working admirably to have me defend claims I've never made. It's cute, but also a great demonstration of some of the more deeply rooted issues at play. I'm just waiting on the Lion and Tin Man to show up at this point.
Aligning gun rights explicitly with a political party and not working to build enthusiasm and advocacy within the opposing party (or at least their constituents) is a mistake, particularly when the demographic trends of the favored party have suggested its ever increasing irrelevance. This doesn't mean Dems like your rights, obviously they don't, but it does mean you should focus on more than one front if you want long term success. But please, continue preaching to the choir and wondering why the congregation is shrinking. Be sure to hitch your wagon to issues that have nothing to do with 2A advocacy as well, that'll give you more room to maneuver and maximize your impact.
It's more tangentially related, but I'd check out Kilcullen's "Out of the Mountains: The Coming Age of the Urban Guerilla" for some insights into the types of mistakes I see being made.
All ya'll advocating for not acknowledging differences in ability sound like a bunch of 'commies'. Woops.
Lowlight: Let me know if you'd rather I stfu. Just passing the time, but it's your ball.
Interesting. I picture a group of Russian, Chinese, or Iranian intelligence operatives in a large computer work center laughing at the trouble and unrest that can be done with a handful of emotionally charged arguments on many different forums.
There are no deep isssue.....below is exactly what you said.
Now, I will repeat my question that went unanswered earlier....if not the GOP, just WTF do you think we ought to align with...the Dems? The Green Party?
Oh, we should work to encourage enthusiasm in the other (you leave the Dems unnamed but again, WTF else can you be talking about) party!! This is what you are saying, right?
Yeppers...I'll run right out and try to recruit Diane Feinstein to the team....hahaha. Her quotes
And she doubled down on the Senate floor with:
You are ridiculous....I'm done here. Your faux intellectual justification for "aligning" with other parties is a ludicrous on the face of it.
Cheers
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It's a stupid thread title and not a single one of you have any insight what happens behind the scenes,
But if you want to vent about what you think is happening, okay ... knock yourself out.
99% of everything said here in regards to the site is wrong but whatever, I think people just like pushing each others buttons and sites and social media make it all too easy to not get punched in the face, so we see an increase in idiot posts.
I don't think there is any grand conspiracy against the site, (except from competing gun groups) sure a few wander in, will rat some of you mouthier types out to the government but they get you are just venting in most cases. Don't post a picture of your car loaded with guns and ammo headed to rally and I think you are okay otherwise.
We are under attack politically that is Macro vs the Microcosm of this place. You'd be smarter to mount a series of defenses where the other side can't point to your stupid posts and say, "See I told you", I tend to think about that part...
But we are not under specific attack, beyond the telegraphed 2A stuff they talk about every time, that is real, and we potentially blew it.
But if you want to vent about what you think is happening, okay ... knock yourself out.
99% of everything said here in regards to the site is wrong but whatever, I think people just like pushing each others buttons and sites and social media make it all too easy to not get punched in the face, so we see an increase in idiot posts.
I don't think there is any grand conspiracy against the site, (except from competing gun groups) sure a few wander in, will rat some of you mouthier types out to the government but they get you are just venting in most cases. Don't post a picture of your car loaded with guns and ammo headed to rally and I think you are okay otherwise.
We are under attack politically that is Macro vs the Microcosm of this place. You'd be smarter to mount a series of defenses where the other side can't point to your stupid posts and say, "See I told you", I tend to think about that part...
But we are not under specific attack, beyond the telegraphed 2A stuff they talk about every time, that is real, and we potentially blew it.
I actually liked it better when we didn’t talk politics. I’m guilty as hell of getting into the pit, it’s so tempting sometimes. The only political posts I want to see are honest discussions about gun control. The rest I can live without. I get enough of it from my dad who still hasn’t taken Obama’s Dick out of his mouth. Im
Gonna try my damnest to avoid the fray, but yeah we are definitely being infiltrated and it’s being done with purpose. Just be smart. Don’t mouth off. And don’t let your anger get the best of you.
Gonna try my damnest to avoid the fray, but yeah we are definitely being infiltrated and it’s being done with purpose. Just be smart. Don’t mouth off. And don’t let your anger get the best of you.
It's changing probably Monday I will have all these posts removed and you will only be able to talk politics in the 3 threads I posted or in the Private areas..
No more political debates running on an endless loop... it will be like that Election thread, hundreds of responses, if you have an issue it's your own fault for wandering in there.
I get it when it's every other thread you can't avoid it. I am making it avoidable
No more political debates running on an endless loop... it will be like that Election thread, hundreds of responses, if you have an issue it's your own fault for wandering in there.
I get it when it's every other thread you can't avoid it. I am making it avoidable
I'm all for seeing less political rhetoric going on here. Michelle Obama already spoke about shutting down social networks that spread hate and/or violence..... I'd think all of us would rather have what Frank started this for us in the first place! Venting the political BS going on could be our downfall? Look how what happened this week in DC was spun? BLM and ANTIFA would still be their PROTESTING, TRASHING, AND BURNING anything in their path! Not gone in 90 minutes either! That's a fact, but they don't care to compare that now do they!
We could however post what Laws or Bills are coming up and for a way and/or means to prevent them, and as a way for people to be informed about what's going on. I have a friend on FB and most of her posts are Laws coming up in the State of Washington and she lists the phone numbers of who to call, or email and even form letters just to make it easy.
The Cliche "Talk is cheap" may now be more so than ever, while "Actions speak louder than words" and a means and ways to get done what's important to US as Americans will be our only way out of what's ahead?
I remember when a couple came X-County skiing on a subdivision I was developing during hunting season on 40 acres I owned. They noticed I was bow hunting, and my friend overheard them saying "lets mess up their hunting and make a lot of noise". Which they did.... I made the mistake of just thinking they'd ski on by and soon be on their merry way? I didn't want to get down from my tree stand and "have a talk".
I did though on their way back stop and have a chat with this guy and his wife......But this guy didn't believe I was the owner and wanted me arrested! Well when the cops arrived he was issued a ticket for trespassing, and I got the DNR involved for hunter harassment. Doing something within the confines of the law isn't always easy, but it can have a lasting effect.
There's more Bills that get passed then days in the year that affect everyone of us in some way...... The story of the American dream was my life as a child, what happens from here on out is anyones guess
We could however post what Laws or Bills are coming up and for a way and/or means to prevent them, and as a way for people to be informed about what's going on. I have a friend on FB and most of her posts are Laws coming up in the State of Washington and she lists the phone numbers of who to call, or email and even form letters just to make it easy.
The Cliche "Talk is cheap" may now be more so than ever, while "Actions speak louder than words" and a means and ways to get done what's important to US as Americans will be our only way out of what's ahead?
I remember when a couple came X-County skiing on a subdivision I was developing during hunting season on 40 acres I owned. They noticed I was bow hunting, and my friend overheard them saying "lets mess up their hunting and make a lot of noise". Which they did.... I made the mistake of just thinking they'd ski on by and soon be on their merry way? I didn't want to get down from my tree stand and "have a talk".
I did though on their way back stop and have a chat with this guy and his wife......But this guy didn't believe I was the owner and wanted me arrested! Well when the cops arrived he was issued a ticket for trespassing, and I got the DNR involved for hunter harassment. Doing something within the confines of the law isn't always easy, but it can have a lasting effect.
There's more Bills that get passed then days in the year that affect everyone of us in some way...... The story of the American dream was my life as a child, what happens from here on out is anyones guess
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There has to be some sort of political talk. Right wing political talk is all but being banned in normal social media sites and the news won’t talk about. Places like this are going to be the last hold outs of free exchange of information. How else will masses learn about possible gun bans and anti gun legislation? With out this site and a couple you tubers I would have never known that the ATF was actively trying to ban pistol braces a couple weeks ago. At the point we are no longer allowed to post anything right wing politics on the internet the time to gather together to stop it has already passed. We can’t self sensor to serve our overlords.
Hmm... glad I got in when I did
So you suffer from cognizant disconnect? Being a liberal truely is a mental disease.
You (supposedly) like guns yet support the very people who want to take them away. I suppose you (like so many other useful idiots) think that you will be one of the important people in the new regime. Just as all those good revolutionairies thought right up until they were lined up against a wall or shipped off to the camps. Believing in the cause right to the end.
That sounds familiar.....
This guy is Phx-muc that was just perma-banned over on AKFiles for being a liberal troll.
In truth there have been two choices.
The lesser hasn't been a great choice on all matters but this would be the definition
of the 2 party system.
I'd like to hear the alternatives.
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Proof that you just can't fix stupid. Though actually he is just a liberal troll that was perma-banned on AKFiles recently.
H.R.127 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Sabika Sheikh Firearm Licensing and Registration Act
Summary of H.R.127 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Sabika Sheikh Firearm Licensing and Registration Act
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Thank you!
Lol, what? Not a liberal or that troll you're talking about.
Yeah, you just "happened" to post the same word for word reply that he did right? You are him.
I respect the fact you are concerned about the impact of *some* new posters. However, for those who have just got into long-range shooting, this seems a bit excessive. Politics is already a "good old boy club", those who are new here don't want to be excluded. Like all limits, they need to be sensibly evaluated. If someone steps over the line, then certainly it is reasonable to react. Even though I have no actual say in the decision, and it has an underlying concern it addresses, it seems a bit tough on the newbies (like me).
We have reached a point in all online media where it can be tough to talk about politics, and in many other forums (facebook, twitter, etc), you SURE don't want to discuss guns OR even the second amendment (or you may end up on some activists radar). It is nice to have a place where the conversation is less limiting. I hope this does not change.
We have reached a point in all online media where it can be tough to talk about politics, and in many other forums (facebook, twitter, etc), you SURE don't want to discuss guns OR even the second amendment (or you may end up on some activists radar). It is nice to have a place where the conversation is less limiting. I hope this does not change.
This is an informational platform to discuss shooting and precision rifles, it‘s not a political site
The fact we allow it, is because of the attacks on our 2A rights, however that does not mean we need to wade into every political debate imaginable, hence the compartmentalizing of those topics.
As noted, there are people on here who’s job sensitivities can be a problem in this political climate. The conversations about the politics of the PRS will not get them in trouble, neither will discussing the Quick Change barrel systems out there, but talking about Red / Blue politics can...
Watch as these social media sites limit conservative speech, you are gonna see another run on forums as they start to shut gun groups down. That is next, this is just the first shot in a long war.
It should not be lost how quickly this happened, wait until the agenda narratives start, they already told you guns in all forms are on the chopping block. They want the internet closed off to all things gun related, this crack down is just the first step. Testing the limits, and clearly there is none, they took out the Presidents account.
If you can’t understand preparation and positions, you should refrain from commenting and watch.
The fact we allow it, is because of the attacks on our 2A rights, however that does not mean we need to wade into every political debate imaginable, hence the compartmentalizing of those topics.
As noted, there are people on here who’s job sensitivities can be a problem in this political climate. The conversations about the politics of the PRS will not get them in trouble, neither will discussing the Quick Change barrel systems out there, but talking about Red / Blue politics can...
Watch as these social media sites limit conservative speech, you are gonna see another run on forums as they start to shut gun groups down. That is next, this is just the first shot in a long war.
It should not be lost how quickly this happened, wait until the agenda narratives start, they already told you guns in all forms are on the chopping block. They want the internet closed off to all things gun related, this crack down is just the first step. Testing the limits, and clearly there is none, they took out the Presidents account.
If you can’t understand preparation and positions, you should refrain from commenting and watch.
Nope just used the same flip reply to a conversation. That along with your location, politics and posting style makes it pretty plain you and Phx-muc are one and the same. Or if not you are both simply paid trolls reading from the same script. Though I lean towards the former rather than the latter on this as posting style is a dead giveaway for anyone that has seen you on both forums.
It's you and you are caught. This forum seems to be more accepting of your crap though so why the need to hide who you are here.
There are Men in Black types, media, those who are just curious and those from the extreme Left here and they have been, probably from the very beginning. It's inevitable.
I think everyone here completely understands where you are coming from and it’s unfortunate that conservative speech is being suppressed. I would rather see politics banned than anything happen to this site. This site is my and many others primary source for learning about rifle shooting and equipment. I just wish our 2A rights weren’t being threatened. I personally have never quite felt as though our 2A might go away or be severely limited as I do now. We now have a president that has openly campaigned that he wants our right to bear arms severely limited. Scary times
touche!! I picked that name way before the current state of Doctor Who and I am big OT Star Wars fan. Frank, I just wanted to say I bought your book and it’s great. Highly recommend it to anyone who wants to learn about rifle shooting and/or reinforce fundamentals. Congrats on putting that out.
Shouldn’t come to this site solely for political talk.Test post to see if I qualify yet.
ETA: Yea No got a bit to go.
Test post to see if I qualify yet.
ETA: Yea No got a bit to go.
I've grown suspicious of new accounts where their first questions aren't the typical "Mils vs Moa" and "What scope should I buy" but they dive right into political threads and take contrary positions.
Definitely going to be an increase in baiting moving forward and we all need to not take the bait.
not related, but does a person know when they have been 'ignored'?
Unless the ignorer informs the ignoree they don't know.
^^^^bingo
Got it, so baseless accusations based on your paranoia and anyone who openly disagrees with you must be a paid troll. You're adorable. Moron.
on our private forum (our pilots association) we experienced (the past 3 years) fellow SJW pilots sending forum threads to management and the NAACP with the goals to get folks fired and the forum chat board shutdown. All to silence anybody who disagrees with the socialists way of government control
Nope, location, posting style and political leanings along with word for word duplication of posts.
Your reading comprehension isn't any better over here then on the AKFiles.
Two more for the ignore list.
fify?
It. Was. Humor.
I read the rules, I know I'm no where close to what's required. Just trying to lighten the mood.
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so don't answer if they are looking for the best scope for their paint ball gun?
I've grown suspicious of new accounts where their first questions aren't the typical "Mils vs Moa" and "What scope should I buy" but they dive right into political threads and take contrary positions.
Definitely going to be an increase in baiting moving forward and we all need to not take the bait.
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