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Wow...increasing the scope of "extremist groups"

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    Army Special Operations School Drops 'III' Logo Adopted by Extremist Group

    An element of Army Special Operations Command has distanced itself from a logo that has been adopted by an extremist group.
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    "One, featuring a Roman numeral "III" surrounded by a circle of stars, is now the symbol of the Three Percenters, a "militia movement/paramilitary group with members who adhere to a far-right/libertarian ideology with a primary focus on firearms ownership right and opposition to expansive U.S. federal government authority," according to a JFK SWCS slide briefing."
     
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    New DHS designatons. 🧻 :devilish:

    “Domestic Violent Extremists” (“DVEs”)
    “Homegrown Violent Extremists” (“HVEs”)
    “Violent Conspiracy-Theorist Extremists” (“VCTEs”)
    “Violent Reality Denialist Extremists” (VRDEs”)
    “Insurrectionary Micro-Aggressionist Extremists” (“IMAEs”)
    “People Who Make Liberals Feel Uncomfortable” (“PWMLFUs”)
     
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    sirhrmechanic said:
    Neither group has ANY terrorist affiliations or leanings.

    But authoritarian regimes will invent enemies and their propaganda machines will spread the lie.

    See what they did there?

    Sirhr
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    folks in the middle east are tired of the killing.
    the powers that be need another enemy and they will make one if they have to (again).
     
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    sirhrmechanic said:
    Neither group has ANY terrorist affiliations or leanings.

    But authoritarian regimes will invent enemies and their propaganda machines will spread the lie.

    See what they did there?

    Sirhr
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    Basically same program runing for 70+ years but, in overdrive since 9/11, MIC is feeding plebs neverending stream of imaginary bogeymen to keep the endless wars going. The only difference today the bogeyman is average American.

    Warnings, where this would lead, were issued long ago.
    “Whenever the standard of freedom and independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will be America’s heart, her benedictions and her prayers. But she does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy. She is the wellwisher to freedom and independence for all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own. She well knows that by once enlisting other banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extridition, in all wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy and ambition which assume the colors and usurp the standard of freedom….She might become the dictress of the world but would no longer be ruler of her own spirit….Americans should not go abroad to slay dragons they do not understand in the name of spreading democracy.”\

    __John Quincy Adams__ As Secretary of State
     
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    This crap is just gone too far. When will the American flag be denied because some "domestic terrorist group" use it s a symbol of unity? Come on now, the Roman numeral 3 (III) has been used for 2000 years. I'm guessing the trinity will soon follow. We can't have the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. I mean after all, there's 3 of them.
     
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    Can you imagine working for a company that has a little more than 500 employees and has the following statistics:

    • 29 have been accused of spousal abuse
    • 7 have been arrested for fraud
    • 19 have been accused of writing bad checks
    • 117 have directly or indirectly bankrupted at least 2 businesses
    • 3 have done time for assault
    • 71 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit
    • 14 have been arrested on drug-related charges
    • 8 have been arrested for shoplifting
    • 21 are currently defendants in lawsuits
    • 84 have been arrested for drunk driving in the last year...
    It's the 535 members of the United States Congress.
     
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    Funny when the shadow campaign that rigged the elections is celebrated as some sort of freedom fries project instead of a shortlist of charges for putting folks in prison for essentially meddling in elections. No , instead the actors involved are getting posts in new admin and tech firms.

    The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election​


    This is the inside story of the conspiracy to save the 2020 election, based on access to the group’s inner workings, never-before-seen documents and interviews with dozens of those involved from across the political spectrum. It is the story of an unprecedented, creative and determined campaign whose success also reveals how close the nation came to disaster. “Every attempt to interfere with the proper outcome of the election was defeated,” says Ian Bassin, co-founder of Protect Democracy, a nonpartisan rule-of-law advocacy group. “But it’s massively important for the country to understand that it didn’t happen accidentally. The system didn’t work magically. Democracy is not self-executing.”

    That’s why the participants want the secret history of the 2020 election told, even though it sounds like a paranoid fever dream–a well-funded cabal of powerful people, ranging across industries and ideologies, working together behind the scenes to influence perceptions, change rules and laws, steer media coverage and control the flow of information. They were not rigging the election; they were fortifying it. And they believe the public needs to understand the system’s fragility in order to ensure that democracy in America endures.


    time.com

    The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election

    For more than a year, a loosely organized coalition of operatives scrambled to shore up America’s institutions
    time.com time.com
     
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    HeavyAssault said:
    I swear I'm hating watching all the WWI and WWII documentaries. It's super creepy how they make the shows sound "just" like what's going on in our world. Worst part is ....the shows are from before the elections....in 2016.
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    Those of us who study history are doomed to watch everyone else who does not repeat it.
    theLBC said:
    Can you imagine working for a company that has a little more than 500 employees and has the following statistics:

    • 29 have been accused of spousal abuse
    • 7 have been arrested for fraud
    • 19 have been accused of writing bad checks
    • 117 have directly or indirectly bankrupted at least 2 businesses
    • 3 have done time for assault
    • 71 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit
    • 14 have been arrested on drug-related charges
    • 8 have been arrested for shoplifting
    • 21 are currently defendants in lawsuits
    • 84 have been arrested for drunk driving in the last year...
    It's the 535 members of the United States Congress.
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    I'm stealing that.
     
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    Mwalex said:
    It is amazing how the US looks a lot like pre-WWII Germany.
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    Well, we literally have the exact same group of instigators that have caused the same moral decay in our society. Literally. We look at the decadence of 1920's Weimar Germany and wonder why the Germans were open to any other option, including Hitler. They'll always tell you what happened to them, but never why.
     
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    Also, it got started a bit by Teddy Roosevelt then really went full speed ahead under the evil Woodrow Wilson (Jekyl Island, Fed reserve. WW1).
    They don't teach this kind of history anymore in schools, if you have kids, please school them yourself.
    Our oldest son and DIL had some friends visit a week or so ago from Oregon and they went down to San Antonio for the weekend and this couple from Oregon didn't even know what the Alamo was. Blasphemy in IMO. Even my son was appalled at their ignorance.
    But I guess they enjoyed the river walk and mall shit. So fucking sad.
     
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    theLBC said:
    Can you imagine working for a company that has a little more than 500 employees and has the following statistics:

    • 29 have been accused of spousal abuse
    • 7 have been arrested for fraud
    • 19 have been accused of writing bad checks
    • 117 have directly or indirectly bankrupted at least 2 businesses
    • 3 have done time for assault
    • 71 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit
    • 14 have been arrested on drug-related charges
    • 8 have been arrested for shoplifting
    • 21 are currently defendants in lawsuits
    • 84 have been arrested for drunk driving in the last year...
    It's the 535 members of the United States Congress.
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    Can you make this a name by crime list??
     
    The name's of the sexual offenders have been covered up for the protection of the victims. It wasn't long ago that it was discovered that congress used over fifty million tax dollars to cover their sexual misconduct. They unanimously passed a bill to hide the names of the offenders. Imagine that. Every male and female in congress voted for that.
    I can't find the meme with Chris Farley and the ho. Where he says... Remember when you said you believe the person that accused Biden of molesting her? Wasn't that great?
    theLBC said:
    Can you imagine working for a company that has a little more than 500 employees and has the following statistics:

    • 29 have been accused of spousal abuse
    • 7 have been arrested for fraud
    • 19 have been accused of writing bad checks
    • 117 have directly or indirectly bankrupted at least 2 businesses
    • 3 have done time for assault
    • 71 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit
    • 14 have been arrested on drug-related charges
    • 8 have been arrested for shoplifting
    • 21 are currently defendants in lawsuits
    • 84 have been arrested for drunk driving in the last year...
    It's the 535 members of the United States Congress.
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    sirhrmechanic said:
    Neither group has ANY terrorist affiliations or leanings.

    But authoritarian regimes will invent enemies and their propaganda machines will spread the lie.

    See what they did there?

    Sirhr
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    And I am going to correct myself when I say "Group.' Because there are no "Groups" among the III percent or Oathkeepers..

    No meetings that I ever heard of. No get-togethers. No associations or affiliations or gatherings or group sessions or trainings or anything. Ever. Not one indication that these 'names' have some kind of group dynamic behind them.

    They are a state of mind. Something that folks who have served America and the Constitution identify with. Something that folks take as a touchstone or talisman of the love that they have for the USA and the Constitution. There are no conspiracies. There are not training camps. There are no militias or anything remotely similar. None. Zero. Not a single one.

    Every FBI agent took the same oath. Every Soldier, every police office and (for all I know) every firefighter and EMT... took an oath to preserve, protect and defend The Constitution. In total, these folks, all the way back to 1775, have represented just 3 percent of our population. The other 97 percent... lived their lives thanks to the blood, sweat, toil and tears shed by the three percent.

    Noone among that 'Three Percent of Citizens" is calling for Revolution. None are planning insurrection. None are getting together to train, cooperate, plan, over-take, revolt... nothing. It is a state of mind that says "I believe in America." And I am for it.

    This re-branding is all a made-up attack on people who love America and want a bright, shining future for our Republic.

    To call those who have signed up to be willing to shed blood ,sacrifice wealth, and often live a difficult life... for our national precepts... terrorists? That is just beyond the pale. It's wrong. It's a lie. It's not what folks are about.

    But this is how communists work. Accuse others of doing what you are doing. Then oppress them.

    Sirhr
     
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    i think having that Punisher logo can get you in trouble as well.
     
    You use the word Republic. They use the word democracy. Watch who uses which word. It's a beltway problem.
    sirhrmechanic said:
    And I am going to correct myself when I say "Group.' Because there are no "Groups" among the III percent or Oathkeepers..

    No meetings that I ever heard of. No get-togethers. No associations or affiliations or gatherings or group sessions or trainings or anything. Ever. Not one indication that these 'names' have some kind of group dynamic behind them.

    They are a state of mind. Something that folks who have served America and the Constitution identify with. Something that folks take as a touchstone or talisman of the love that they have for the USA and the Constitution. There are no conspiracies. There are not training camps. There are no militias or anything remotely similar. None. Zero. Not a single one.

    Every FBI agent took the same oath. Every Soldier, every police office and (for all I know) every firefighter and EMT... took an oath to preserve, protect and defend The Constitution. In total, these folks, all the way back to 1775, have represented just 3 percent of our population. The other 97 percent... lived their lives thanks to the blood, sweat, toil and tears shed by the three percent.

    Noone among that 'Three Percent of Citizens" is calling for Revolution. None are planning insurrection. None are getting together to train, cooperate, plan, over-take, revolt... nothing. It is a state of mind that says "I believe in America." And I am for it.

    This re-branding is all a made-up attack on people who love America and want a bright, shining future for our Republic.

    To call those who have signed up to be willing to shed blood ,sacrifice wealth, and often live a difficult life... for our national precepts... terrorists? That is just beyond the pale. It's wrong. It's a lie. It's not what folks are about.

    But this is how communists work. Accuse others of doing what you are doing. Then oppress them.

    Sirhr
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    sirhrmechanic said:
    And I am going to correct myself when I say "Group.' Because there are no "Groups" among the III percent or Oathkeepers..

    No meetings that I ever heard of. No get-togethers. No associations or affiliations or gatherings or group sessions or trainings or anything. Ever. Not one indication that these 'names' have some kind of group dynamic behind them.

    They are a state of mind. Something that folks who have served America and the Constitution identify with. Something that folks take as a touchstone or talisman of the love that they have for the USA and the Constitution. There are no conspiracies. There are not training camps. There are no militias or anything remotely similar. None. Zero. Not a single one.

    Every FBI agent took the same oath. Every Soldier, every police office and (for all I know) every firefighter and EMT... took an oath to preserve, protect and defend The Constitution. In total, these folks, all the way back to 1775, have represented just 3 percent of our population. The other 97 percent... lived their lives thanks to the blood, sweat, toil and tears shed by the three percent.

    Noone among that 'Three Percent of Citizens" is calling for Revolution. None are planning insurrection. None are getting together to train, cooperate, plan, over-take, revolt... nothing. It is a state of mind that says "I believe in America." And I am for it.

    This re-branding is all a made-up attack on people who love America and want a bright, shining future for our Republic.

    To call those who have signed up to be willing to shed blood ,sacrifice wealth, and often live a difficult life... for our national precepts... terrorists? That is just beyond the pale. It's wrong. It's a lie. It's not what folks are about.

    But this is how communists work. Accuse others of doing what you are doing. Then oppress them.

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    i think it is the text of the declaration of independence that scares the despots.
     
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    theLBC said:
    i think it is the text of the declaration of independence that scares the despots.
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    IMHO, more the Bill of Rights.

    Which was created because the Constitution was not considered specific enough to protect the individual. Thus the Bill of RIghts (the Amendments) were created. To establish the natural-born rights of the individual. Not just in the United States... as it came to be known. But globally.

    The commie scum is not against the Constitution. They can warp that to whatever perversions their child-molesting, alcoholic, commie, coke-head leftist, scum-weasel hearts desire.

    But the Bill of Rights terrifies them. Because those rights are natural born. Meaning that the founders believed that every human being on the planet was endowed with these rights from birth. And those rights are a direct slap in the face of socialism, globalism, communism, facism and every other 'Ism' that our little troll members can quote.

    Constitution? That is so easily warped to garbage that it's very, very fluid and hard to use as the touchstone. The Amendments to the Constitution are really, really hard to negate.

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    sirhrmechanic said:
    And I am going to correct myself when I say "Group.' Because there are no "Groups" among the III percent or Oathkeepers..

    No meetings that I ever heard of. No get-togethers. No associations or affiliations or gatherings or group sessions or trainings or anything. Ever. Not one indication that these 'names' have some kind of group dynamic behind them.

    They are a state of mind. Something that folks who have served America and the Constitution identify with. Something that folks take as a touchstone or talisman of the love that they have for the USA and the Constitution. There are no conspiracies. There are not training camps. There are no militias or anything remotely similar. None. Zero. Not a single one.

    Every FBI agent took the same oath. Every Soldier, every police office and (for all I know) every firefighter and EMT... took an oath to preserve, protect and defend The Constitution. In total, these folks, all the way back to 1775, have represented just 3 percent of our population. The other 97 percent... lived their lives thanks to the blood, sweat, toil and tears shed by the three percent.

    Noone among that 'Three Percent of Citizens" is calling for Revolution. None are planning insurrection. None are getting together to train, cooperate, plan, over-take, revolt... nothing. It is a state of mind that says "I believe in America." And I am for it.

    This re-branding is all a made-up attack on people who love America and want a bright, shining future for our Republic.

    To call those who have signed up to be willing to shed blood ,sacrifice wealth, and often live a difficult life... for our national precepts... terrorists? That is just beyond the pale. It's wrong. It's a lie. It's not what folks are about.

    But this is how communists work. Accuse others of doing what you are doing. Then oppress them.

    Sirhr
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    Their favorite tactic is to accuse their opponent of exactly what they are doing.
    Their weak minded followers are blind to these games.

    R
     
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    Rthur said:
    Their favorite tactic is to accuse their opponent of exactly what they are doing.
    Their week minded followers are blind to these games.

    R
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    Right? Antifa has been meeting, organizing and carrying out acts of insurrection and domestic terrorism for 3 years... or more.

    But they don't exist..

    Former soldiers, sailors, airmen, Marines, police, sheriff's, FBI, Marshalls, other great Americans who set aside more profitable pursuits to put on a uniform are now terrorists.

    Yup. All makes sense.

    Even when not true.

    Sirhr
     
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    sirhrmechanic said:
    Right? Antifa has been meeting, organizing and carrying out acts of insurrection and domestic terrorism for 3 years... or more.

    But they don't exist..

    Former soldiers, sailors, airmen, Marines, police, sheriff's, FBI, Marshalls, other great Americans who set aside more profitable pursuits to put on a uniform are now terrorists.

    Yup. All makes sense.

    Even when not true.

    Sirhr
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    The day is certainly coming when they will find - "most" folks do not want to put up with their shit. Until then, they run amok.

    Meh, it is like scratching at various bugs before you lay down the DDT. Shit is evil but necessary.

    Asshats the lot of them.
     
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    HeavyAssault said:
    Can you make this a name by crime list??
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    Sure, here is a link to the original article. --> http://web.archive.org/web/20000229....com/Aug1999/081699/criminalclass1-081699.htm

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    I'm stealing that.
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    I wouldn't. The article later admitted that it wasn't true and retracted the story, in late 1999. It is a fun meme to ponder though.

    What would be fun is to recreate the list utilizing actual crimes and sources from publicly available information. The below chart would be a good start.


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    HeavyAssault said:
    www.military.com

    Army Special Operations School Drops 'III' Logo Adopted by Extremist Group

    An element of Army Special Operations Command has distanced itself from a logo that has been adopted by an extremist group.
    www.military.com www.military.com

    "One, featuring a Roman numeral "III" surrounded by a circle of stars, is now the symbol of the Three Percenters, a "militia movement/paramilitary group with members who adhere to a far-right/libertarian ideology with a primary focus on firearms ownership right and opposition to expansive U.S. federal government authority," according to a JFK SWCS slide briefing."
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    So the JFK SWCS has distanced itself from those "...who adhere to a far-right/libertarian ideology with a primary focus on firearms ownership right and opposition to expansive U.S. federal government authority?"


    Thats ironic:



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    sirhrmechanic said:
    IMHO, more the Bill of Rights.

    Which was created because the Constitution was not considered specific enough to protect the individual. Thus the Bill of RIghts (the Amendments) were created. To establish the natural-born rights of the individual. Not just in the United States... as it came to be known. But globally.

    The commie scum is not against the Constitution. They can warp that to whatever perversions their child-molesting, alcoholic, commie, coke-head leftist, scum-weasel hearts desire.

    But the Bill of Rights terrifies them. Because those rights are natural born. Meaning that the founders believed that every human being on the planet was endowed with these rights from birth. And those rights are a direct slap in the face of socialism, globalism, communism, facism and every other 'Ism' that our little troll members can quote.

    Constitution? That is so easily warped to garbage that it's very, very fluid and hard to use as the touchstone. The Amendments to the Constitution are really, really hard to negate.

    Sirhr
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    this part

    But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
     
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    The conversations about the Bill of Rights is critical these days.

    Just suppose many folks are mindless morons and cannot understand that shit. As it applied then, or now.

    That is, IMO, where we are.

    I am not seeking a quorum. It is pretty clear-with or against IMO.

    Without those documents, and agreement(s), we are where we are today. Those Founders knew, first hand, the threat.

    Morons, or not. Facing the threat today is what is needed.

    We shall see I reckon.
     
    They are trying to pass a new law concerning people who have security clearances. They are wanting you to disclose all of your online identities, and any websites where that identity is used. This is so they can get people who think like facebook censors to look at your posting history.

    I got this from my security officer today.

    Tighter Social Media Scrutiny for Security Clearances Pushed in House (Fed Week, 2/8/21)

    A key House member on security clearance issues has backed scrutiny of social medial postings for purposes of obtaining or renewing a security clearance, which is necessary to hold many federal jobs. Rep. Jackie Spier, D-Calif., head of the Armed Services subcommittee on personnel, said that social media channels are often “used by domestic terrorist groups” but are not sufficiently reviewed in clearance investigations “despite collection and reporting of other intrusive, private data, such as financial and behavioral health information” on individuals being screened.

    In a letter to the White House, DoD and ODNI, she called for “identifying white supremacy and violent extremism as a critical threat that must be considered as part of the security clearance adjudication process and directing all relevant agencies to update the background investigation process to incorporate a review of social media information to identify white-supremacist or violent-extremist ties.
     
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    Not a Sniper said:
    The conversations about the Bill of Rights is critical these days.

    Just suppose many folks are mindless morons and cannot understand that shit. As it applied then, or now.

    That is, IMO, where we are.

    I am not seeking a quorum. It is pretty clear-with or against IMO.

    Without those documents, and agreement(s), we are where we are today. Those Founders knew, first hand, the threat.

    Morons, or not. Facing the threat today is what is needed.

    We shall see I reckon.
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    Problem is, you're presenting intellectual arguments and legal interpretations of the BOR to people that illegally put a demented pervert in the White House who talks about kids rubbing the hair on his legs and a prostitute that is behind the biggest domestic attack on America besides 9/11.

    Even if they could interpret what you're talking about, they wouldn't care.
     
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    RGStory said:
    Sure, here is a link to the original article. --> http://web.archive.org/web/20000229....com/Aug1999/081699/criminalclass1-081699.htm



    I wouldn't. The article later admitted that it wasn't true and retracted the story, in late 1999. It is a fun meme to ponder though.

    What would be fun is to recreate the list utilizing actual crimes and sources from publicly available information. The below chart would be a good start.


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    Your link is for one person. List all of them. Or do you not have the info??
     
    HeavyAssault said:
    Your link is for one person. List all of them. Or do you not have the info??
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    Sure,
    I have the info for all but the last, please review note below.
    From that same article, I have annotated the excerpts in quotation below each bullet.

    • 29 have been accused of spousal abuse
    “Twenty-nine members of Congress have been accused of spousal abuse in either criminal or civil proceedings.”
    • 7 have been arrested for fraud
    “seven for fraud,”
    • 19 have been accused of writing bad checks
    “Nineteen members of Congress have been accused of writing bad checks,”
    • 117 have directly or indirectly bankrupted at least 2 businesses
    “Our research found 117 members of the House and Senate who have run at least two businesses each that went bankrupt,”
    • 3 have done time for assault
    “three for assault and one for criminal trespass.”
    • 71 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit
    “Seventy-one of them have credit reports so bad they can't get an American Express card”
    • 14 have been arrested on drug-related charges
    “Fourteen members of Congress have drug-related arrests in their background,”
    • 8 have been arrested for shoplifting
    “eight were arrested for shoplifting”
    • 21 are currently defendants in lawsuits
    “Twenty-one are current defendants in various lawsuits,”
    • 84 have been arrested for drunk driving in the last year...
    “Twenty-seven have driving while intoxicated arrests on their driving records.”

    The last one is the only one that the direct quotation varies from the listed. It does not appear the DUI cases for the preceding year were ever refenced in the article.

    However, I suspect it has been modified over the years.

    Here is an article from 2006 wherein it had been distorted to reflect the members of parliament. - https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2006/mar/20/mpsincorruptionshocker

    Earliest use I could find: circa 2000 - https://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-xpm-20000109-2000-01-09-0001070152-story,amp.html
     
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    I haven't done anything with it because prior to posting something like that I prefer to corroborate and make sure that there is at least halfway factual information in it. Now that Ted Kennedy's gone I don't know if all of his "indiscretions" count anymore. That's probly a quarter of the list
    RGStory said:
    Sure, here is a link to the original article. --> http://web.archive.org/web/20000229....com/Aug1999/081699/criminalclass1-081699.htm



    I wouldn't. The article later admitted that it wasn't true and retracted the story, in late 1999. It is a fun meme to ponder though.

    What would be fun is to recreate the list utilizing actual crimes and sources from publicly available information. The below chart would be a good start.


    View attachment 7552754
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    I guess all one can do at this point is laugh...

    So I am to believe during a time when the federal government lacks the ability to prevent its court houses from being sieged, its capital from breach, and weed is sold in local shops publicly, That any of this shit really matters.

    What every, I am sure that will solve what ever problem they feel that they have.

    Stocks go up, Money printers go brrrrrrrrrrrr
     
    Romeo458 said:
    Now that Ted Kennedy's gone I don't know if all of his "indiscretions" count anymore. That's probly a quarter of the list
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    Ha ha. True enough.

    I also like to vet stuff like that, due of an overdeveloped sense of paranoia. I fear that one side of a political issue will intentional promote misinformation so that when the other side shows up and cites it, they can beat them over the head regarding factual inaccuracies and ignore the core issue or point. A rhetorical landmine planted by the opposition as it were. That's why I posted the chart as an alternative. A simple snapshot showing that the number of congressional investigations into its own members increased during the years when Biden and Obama were in office sourced from governments own reports.
     
    RGStory said:
    Sure,
    I have the info for all but the last, please review note below.
    From that same article, I have annotated the excerpts in quotation below each bullet.

    • 29 have been accused of spousal abuse
    “Twenty-nine members of Congress have been accused of spousal abuse in either criminal or civil proceedings.”
    • 7 have been arrested for fraud
    “seven for fraud,”
    • 19 have been accused of writing bad checks
    “Nineteen members of Congress have been accused of writing bad checks,”
    • 117 have directly or indirectly bankrupted at least 2 businesses
    “Our research found 117 members of the House and Senate who have run at least two businesses each that went bankrupt,”
    • 3 have done time for assault
    “three for assault and one for criminal trespass.”
    • 71 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit
    “Seventy-one of them have credit reports so bad they can't get an American Express card”
    • 14 have been arrested on drug-related charges
    “Fourteen members of Congress have drug-related arrests in their background,”
    • 8 have been arrested for shoplifting
    “eight were arrested for shoplifting”
    • 21 are currently defendants in lawsuits
    “Twenty-one are current defendants in various lawsuits,”
    • 84 have been arrested for drunk driving in the last year...
    “Twenty-seven have driving while intoxicated arrests on their driving records.”

    The last one is the only one that the direct quotation varies from the listed. It does not appear the DUI cases for the preceding year were ever refenced in the article.

    However, I suspect it has been modified over the years.

    Here is an article from 2006 wherein it had been distorted to reflect the members of parliament. - https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2006/mar/20/mpsincorruptionshocker

    Earliest use I could find: circa 2000 - https://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-xpm-20000109-2000-01-09-0001070152-story,amp.html
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    I am sure that if somebody could feed this to the autist over at 4chan, they probably could get an updated list
     
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    GUNNER10 said:
    What every, I am sure that will solve what ever problem they feel that they have.

    Stocks go up, Money printers go brrrrrrrrrrrr
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    I am inclined to agree. I see the price of things like the WTI or bullets go up and I can't help but wonder if the effect is partially the result of the declining purchasing power of the USD. "Great! They handed out stimulus checks, but my savings account/retirement is worth 10-14% less today."

    In comparing the USD to every major currency since April, we have lost ground. Pound, Euro, Yen, Yuan, AUD, Shekel, Peso, and even the Canadian Dollar we see ranges of 10-14% loss. Printing more money is a very dangerous tool.

    Silencing the people who complain by labeling them extremists is also a dangerous tool.
     
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