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oh, i am not saying i care or have issues about how other people value art or spend their money.
hanging pictures of murderous, racist pedophiles on your wall is begging for an opinion, in my opinion.
So what exactly is your argument with me, then? That I don't think that having a Warhol painting of Mao is a sign of likely communist beliefs, while I do think that having a Mao shirt or Mao poster is? How exactly is that controversial?
 
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I guess I’m not in touch with the finer side of things. My idea of art are framed copies of the Declaration, the Constitution, and the BOR on my wall, along with a Betsy Ross flag and Brown Bess. All repro’s and all relatively inexpensive. That’s fine art to me, sitting in the chair, staring at that stuff on the wall, with a smokey bourbon in hand. This guy lives to play devil’s advocate on here to get people riled up. He’s not capable of getting me fired up.
Right there with ya. I have what my wife calls...My love me wall. I have my old racing pics, trophies, pics of places we've been, whether by m/c, jeep, or plane. I'd rather have shit like that hanging on my walls, then have "Art", that I paid wayyyyyy too much money for.
I like buying cheap shit, like a print of a rusted-out 50's p/u, next to a cabin in the woods, or, some wildlife scene. Don't give two shits for Warhol (or any other artist, for that matter), or any of his paintings, especially, one of Mao. I have wayyyyy better things to spend $100,000 on. I'm just a simple man and I'm good with that. Mac
 
Right there with ya. I have what my wife calls...My love me wall. I have my old racing pics, trophies, pics of places we've been, whether by m/c, jeep, or plane. I'd rather have shit like that hanging on my walls, then have "Art", that I paid wayyyyyy too much money for.
I like buying cheap shit, like a print of a rusted-out 50's p/u, next to a cabin in the woods, or, some wildlife scene. Don't give two shits for Warhol (or any other artist, for that matter), or any of his paintings, especially, one of Mao. I have wayyyyy better things to spend $100,000 on. I'm just a simple man and I'm good with that. Mac
FWIW, I think that is great. I live in a fucking cabin in the woods. It is what I enjoy. I actually don't care what anybody does, says or thinks, to be honest.
 
But go you will so long as there's a dollar in it for YOU.
Don't worry, you don't have to justify it because I already know you're full of shit.
You remind me of the bar scene in Good Will Hunting.

There are some dicks that whores won't suck,does that make you better or worse?
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Kane torpedo away.
 
So what exactly is your argument with me, then? That I don't think that having a Warhol painting of Mao is a sign of likely communist beliefs, while I do think that having a Mao shirt or Mao poster is? How exactly is that controversial?
i don't have an argument with you. i am just responding to stupid sounding comments and it just so happens you make most of them.

edit. if you own a real original or limited print that has some value, and acquired it when china wasn't such a threat to more than just their own people and the surrounding countries, i see no obvious fault.
if you hang a cheap copy, that is a political statement imho.
 
Why are you playing into this guy's hand? You know he just wants to argue and will take a position that is opposite of what any red blooded conservative would take.

Stop playing HIS game. He, obviously gets off by this game. Ignore him and he will quickly lose interest and go away.
 
Why are you playing into this guy's hand? You know he just wants to argue and will take a position that is opposite of what any red blooded conservative would take.

Stop playing HIS game. He, obviously gets off by this game. Ignore him and he will quickly lose interest and go away.

Maybe.....
It was bitter cold and windy today.
Its possible I opted out of going to get fencing today because..."shit my feet are cold in the house."
Being a dull day already. Literally NOTHING to watch on a streaming service that isn't fucking slimey tripe. I dont watch TV AT ALL. My carpalthritis is fucking screaming, so no video games...even if they were entertaining.

So I was bored. I thought I would lasso an idiot. Its a lot more fun im finding, if they acknowledge they are roped. Alas...yes it appears there is no fun in this.

I'm sorry I have let you down.
 
Why are you playing into this guy's hand? You know he just wants to argue and will take a position that is opposite of what any red blooded conservative would take.

Stop playing HIS game. He, obviously gets off by this game. Ignore him and he will quickly lose interest and go away.
it is a weakness, i admit.
sometimes i can't help but laugh when people fall down too.

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What is the correct red blooded conservative taste in art?
 
Maybe.....
It was bitter cold and windy today.
Its possible I opted out of going to get fencing today because..."shit my feet are cold in the house."
Being a dull day already. Literally NOTHING to watch on a streaming service that isn't fucking slimey tripe. I dont watch TV AT ALL. My carpalthritis is fucking screaming, so no video games...even if they were entertaining.

So I was bored. I thought I would lasso an idiot. Its a lot more fun im finding, if they acknowledge they are roped. Alas...yes it appears there is no fun in this.

I'm sorry I have let you down.
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why is fb censoring in aus?


It is clear US President Joe Biden is not up to the task he has been “sworn in to do”, according to Sky News host Cory Bernardi. “Never before has the leader of the free world been so cognitively compromised,” Mr Bernardi said “It’s clear to me at the least that US President Joe Biden is struggling with dementia and is clearly not up to the task he’s been sworn in to do.” Mr Bernardi said it is something which was “evident” during the election campaign, but the “partisan and poisonous” mainstream media chose not to highlight anything which could have “derailed a Biden victory”. “Even now, after he has been sworn in, many of them are still refusing to speak the truth about Biden’s lack of capacity.” Joe Biden recently emerged to make his “sanitised” Presidential Town Hall Debut, at which the new president “promptly gave away his teleprompter”. “The result was nothing short of a disaster … it was littered with total falsehoods,” Mr Bernardi said. “It’s all rather pathetic, but even usually smart people are blinded by the nonsense put out by the mainstream media. They believe every perceived sin of Donald Trump while they seem intent on canonizing St. Joe.”
 
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I regret to inform you that we do use their medical research. All the time.

Hell, at some point Nazi medical research will have saved more lives than the Nazi movement was responsible for taking.

That said - it’s gonna be a while considering the leftist resurgence of Nazi ideals and the likelihood it will cost us a billion or more million lives between 2020 and 2040.

I think the world is going to get to find out how the Chinese really feel about every human that isn’t Han Chinese. When America is a smoking ruin.

Pro tip - you shouldn’t wonder too hard how a man who just broke a puppy’s neck that was lovingly licking his hand in order to make a Chinese hot dog is going to treat you when you are on your knees begging for mercy.
My town public schools instituted "Tools of the Mind". Lev Vygotsky is the psychologist that came up with that program. Google it.

If we are going to consider Mao art and Lev Vygotsky's education system legitimate why aren't our medical people using the medical research of Doctors Mengele and Hirt?
 
Not all culture is worth the attention or time to understand it. Most of it is vapid, shallow, and self serving.
I work in high society/high culture frequently. Movie stars. Intellectuals. Politicians. Concerts. Art galleries. Parties. “Showings.”. Etc.

The highest mark of true intellectualism is to take it all in and, after careful consideration over a nice glass of whiskey and a fine cigar, tell all of them/that to kiss your ass.
 
I bet choid has this on his bedroom wall

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This picture is just wrong on so many levels ....and to think it was the first thing I saw this morning ! 🙈
Knowing what all this pervert has actually done , I wouldn’t be surprised if his master dresses him up that way before pegging him with her favorite dildo ?
 
This picture is just wrong on so many levels ....and to think it was the first thing I saw this morning ! 🙈
Knowing what all this pervert has actually done , I wouldn’t be surprised if his master dresses him up that way before pegging him with her favorite dildo ?

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I bet choid has this on his bedroom wall

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You somewhat beat me to what I was going to post. Jeffrey Epstein, Comet Pizza.........they say it is just art. I could say I am sorry that I don't run in those tight circles and understand the art taste of elites, but that would be a lie. In truth I am glad I don't understand and am actually sorry that some do.
 
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I remember when "our community" used to display firearms in glass front beautiful furniture as a source of pride in the home.

Now we hide them in blocks of steel in shame.

Granted I understand the safety issue but the question should be......How did we survive than without people breaking in to our houses and stealing our shit or how come we didnt worry about every depressed person coming along and wanting to use our shit to kill themselves?

Sounds like we got a society problem not a gun problem.

Sorry about the tardy response to this - I had to spend yesterday dealing with some of my dad's medical issues instead of arguing on the 'net.

Yes, I agree that we've got a culture or society problem that forces us to lock away our firearms. Trust me when I say that I would love to proudly display many of my ugly-in-a-beautiful-way pieces in my office, and if my webcam just so happened to pick up a glimpse of angular Elite Sand art while on a call with a client, so be it.

But, I have pre-adolescent boys in the house, both of whom are being trained in the concepts and practice of firearms safety but will be entering that tumultuous period of adult emotions and childlike responses. We have statistical data about the suicide rate of 10-14 year olds, and it's rather frightening (it's the leasing cause of death for that age group in an adjacent Midwestern state, and the 2ndh or 3rd-leading case nationwide). The anecdotes - one which was posted here about a member's boss who left his duty pistol unattended for a brief moment (maybe that was you who posted this one?!?), another involving my wife's co-worker and his 12-year-old son who was a promising competitive shooter and a great all-around kid who had a terrible day at school and couldn't put it in perspective before finding an unsecured firearm and taking his life - those are the sort of stories which keep my firearms locked in steel boxes unless I'm in direct control of them.

Is this a societal problem? Yeah, maybe, with a dash of medical malpractice thrown in for good measure. But if I can't fix the root cause, then I must put in place corrective action that at least attempts to alleviate the symptoms.

I've also got a problem with the use of firearms as props (which we must distinguish from the use of firearms as decoration or art - it's a nuanced distinction that I predict will be overlooked or mocked by a small number of members, but so be it). People who sling ARs over their shoulders at marches are often using firearms as props. Politicians who position then oh-so-prominently in the not-so-background of their office are likely using them as props. People who open-carry handguns in certain situations are often using them as props. I have an issue with this; just because I believe that one has rights under both the 1st and 2nd Amendments to do so, doesn't mean that I have to believe it's a good idea. I welcome opposing viewpoints on this because I think it makes for lively and productive debate.

With regards to Ms. Boebert herself, I've yet to determine if she's a useful idiot placed by the Uniparty, or a sincere-but-imperfect vessel for whatever movement that is expected to follow Trump's MAGA. To the extent that she is the latter, I will give her credit for supporting what I believe to be important principles, but in an abrasive fashion that is unlikely to swing the opinion of anyone who doesn't already agree with her. Others may feel that she will be effective in "red-pilling the normies" or whatever the kids call it nowadays. It's OK to disagree.

Alright, time to head back to the hospital and see how the old man is doing.
 
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Sorry about the tardy response to this - I had to spend yesterday dealing with some of my dad's medical issues instead of arguing on the 'net.

Yes, I agree that we've got a culture or society problem that forces us to lock away our firearms. Trust me when I say that I would love to proudly display many of my ugly-in-a-beautiful-way pieces in my office, and if my webcam just so happened to pick up a glimpse of angular Elite Sand art while on a call with a client, so be it.

But, I have pre-adolescent boys in the house, both of whom are being trained in the concepts and practice of firearms safety but will be entering that tumultuous period of adult emotions and childlike responses. We have statistical data about the suicide rate of 10-14 year olds, and it's rather frightening (it's the leasing cause of death for that age group in an adjacent Midwestern state, and the 2ndh or 3rd-leading case nationwide). The anecdotes - one which was posted here about a member's boss who left his duty pistol unattended for a brief moment (maybe that was you who posted this one?!?), another involving my wife's co-worker and his 12-year-old son who was a promising competitive shooter and a great all-around kid who had a terrible day at school and couldn't put it in perspective before finding an unsecured firearm and taking his life - those are the sort of stories which keep my firearms locked in steel boxes unless I'm in direct control of them.

Is this a societal problem? Yeah, maybe, with a dash of medical malpractice thrown in for good measure. But if I can't fix the root cause, then I must put in place corrective action that at least attempts to alleviate the symptoms.

I've also got a problem with the use of firearms as props (which we must distinguish from the use of firearms as decoration or art - it's a nuanced distinction that I predict will be overlooked or mocked by a small number of members, but so be it). People who sling ARs over their shoulders at marches are often using firearms as props. Politicians who position then oh-so-prominently in the not-so-background of their office are likely using them as props. People who open-carry handguns in certain situations are often using them as props. I have an issue with this; just because I believe that one has rights under both the 1st and 2nd Amendments to do so, doesn't mean that I have to believe it's a good idea. I welcome opposing viewpoints on this because I think it makes for lively and productive debate.

With regards to Ms. Boebert herself, I've yet to determine if she's a useful idiot placed by the Uniparty, or a sincere-but-imperfect vessel for whatever movement that is expected to follow Trump's MAGA. To the extent that she is the latter, I will give her credit for supporting what I believe to be important principles, but in an abrasive fashion that is unlikely to swing the opinion of anyone who doesn't already agree with her. Others may feel that she will be effective in "red-pilling the normies" or whatever the kids call it nowadays. It's OK to disagree.

Alright, time to head back to the hospital and see how the old man is doing.


Growing up...every house had firearms.

If they were not in some sort of display cabinet they were in the laundry room, in vinyl cases, stacked unceremoniously near the washer and dryer.

and.....

We handled all of them.

Yet we never shot each other. We checked and cleared them. Checked them out than put them away.

My first understanding of suicide was seeing a picture of a Japanese plane flying into a ship...perhaps the Bunker Hill....it horrified me in the sense I couldn't understand how someone could take their own life.

This was 1978 or so.

Suicide as an accepted tactic or solution was still viewed as to the unacceptable extreme.

Guessing I dont need to say things are different today.

The number getting clergy or nuns telling them murder even of self is bad are fewer.

Many more images these days of suicide used not only as a military tactic but as a life solution are available in the news or popular culture.

Sure it happened back in the day but it was hidden. The family in which it occurred suffered uncalled for shame and these things were "hidden".

Today we have familiarity, untreated mental illness, drugs, ideation I understand why we need the steel boxes but in addition to the steel box we should work on the other issues.
 
Growing up...every house had firearms.

If they were not in some sort of display cabinet they were in the laundry room, in vinyl cases, stacked unceremoniously near the washer and dryer.

and.....

We handled all of them.

Yet we never shot each other. We checked and cleared them. Checked them out than put them away.

My first understanding of suicide was seeing a picture of a Japanese plane flying into a ship...perhaps the Bunker Hill....it horrified me in the sense I couldn't understand how someone could take their own life.

This was 1978 or so.

Suicide as an accepted tactic or solution was still viewed as to the unacceptable extreme.

Guessing I dont need to say things are different today.

The number getting clergy or nuns telling them murder even of self is bad are fewer.

Many more images these days of suicide used not only as a military tactic but as a life solution are available in the news or popular culture.

Sure it happened back in the day but it was hidden. The family in which it occurred suffered uncalled for shame and these things were "hidden".

Today we have familiarity, untreated mental illness, drugs, ideation I understand why we need the steel boxes but in addition to the steel box we should work on the other issues.
Suicide rates are flat to slightly down from the 1970s in this country, including those using guns.
 
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Growing up...every house had firearms.

If they were not in some sort of display cabinet they were in the laundry room, in vinyl cases, stacked unceremoniously near the washer and dryer.

and.....

We handled all of them.

Yet we never shot each other. We checked and cleared them. Checked them out than put them away.

My first understanding of suicide was seeing a picture of a Japanese plane flying into a ship...perhaps the Bunker Hill....it horrified me in the sense I couldn't understand how someone could take their own life.

This was 1978 or so.

Suicide as an accepted tactic or solution was still viewed as to the unacceptable extreme.

Guessing I dont need to say things are different today.

The number getting clergy or nuns telling them murder even of self is bad are fewer.

Many more images these days of suicide used not only as a military tactic but as a life solution are available in the news or popular culture.

Sure it happened back in the day but it was hidden. The family in which it occurred suffered uncalled for shame and these things were "hidden".

Today we have familiarity, untreated mental illness, drugs, ideation I understand why we need the steel boxes but in addition to the steel box we should work on the other issues.
Great post.
I especially like the suicide part, I think I'm the same.
If you got into the gun cabinet, I think someone was more concerned if you wiped the finger prints off the blueing, vs shooting yourself
 
I believe Frank talked about making firearm use and ownership more mainstream among the soccer moms and suburbanites. Maybe Lauren’s appearance instead of a 30yr old neckbeard connects with a new gun owner. Hiding our guns away like a S&M sex doll collection isn’t showing the fence-sitters how normal guns are.
 
That is for 10-14 year olds, and it shows 2000-2017. Big swing and a miss on both counts, bro.
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Im guessing many suicides post 1945 through the 50s could be related to war trauma.
Sure, and that is actually true now among vets. The point being that suicide was no more uncommon then than now, and really no more common either. That is why there were so many maudlin movies about teen suicide in the 70s and early 80s, like Go Ask Alice and Ordinary People. You didn't know they were common because you were a kid, and kids weren't forced to know such things back then, which is definitely a change from now, not because it was some prelapsarian Golden Age.