Hillbilly annealing

Which brings me to another arbitrary shot in the dark number that is neck tension. Unless you are using a force pack arbor press you have only an idea of actual neck tension. And even then do we know if the force to seat a bullet is the same as the force to push it out?

We have one process that we cant accurately measure (annealing) to facilitate a result on another process that we cant accurately measure (neck tension).

Sounds more like skilled luck than science.

@2aBaCa

Which brings me to another arbitrary shot in the dark number that is neck tension

Sounds more like skilled luck than science.

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How is measuring neck tension with pin gages to the thousandth skilled luck?

Uh oh, you guys are going in deep lol...

PFG said:

@2aBaCa



How is measuring neck tension with pin gages to the thousandth skilled luck?

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Because its not an actual measurment of tension. Depending on the neck wall thickness, brass composition, and % annealed or hardness. The actual tension a case has on the projectile varies, even at the same physical pin guage measurement.

A pin guage is just another tool for quality control and consistency.

This taught me all i needed to know to get started. But i keep watching him cause he has forgot more than i will ever know and he reminds me of my grandpa.

Totally a fan or Eric Cortina too.

@2aBaCa

The actual tension a case has on the projectile varies, even at the same physical pin guage measurement.

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Source?

www.epintegrations.com

Case feeder optional fence incoming to the website too

PFG said:

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Source?

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It's physics man. I'll dig up something when I have the time.

I started with torch and drill. Supposed it worked well enough but unsure about its consistency and results. A fellow member sold me his Bench Source and I feel it was a good move. Time savings for sure. Has to be more consistent than previous. No regrets.

2aBaCa said:

It's physics man. I'll dig up something when I have the time.

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It's a white dwarf heading for a black hole. That's physics. It's inevitable.

Has there ever been a subject with so many "experts" who know everything (but can't agree)?
BTW, Eric Cortina anneals the shit out of his brass.

Because I was losing too much sleep over this subject, I bought an AMP machine. Now I pass out soon as my head hits the pillow. No clue how much more effective it is compared to drill + torch method I was using. But it's 100% effective at helping me sleep.

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Because I was losing too much sleep over this subject, I bought an AMP machine. Now I pass out soon as my head hits the pillow. No clue how much more effective it is compared to drill + torch method I was using. But it's 100% effective at helping me sleep.

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This is the best defense I've heard for buying one. Sounds like it was money well spent in your case. Sleep well my friend!

KZP said:

Because I was losing too much sleep over this subject, I bought an AMP machine. Now I pass out soon as my head hits the pillow. No clue how much more effective it is compared to drill + torch method I was using. But it's 100% effective at helping me sleep.

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Basically what it comes down to.

That's how my dad taught me except he always put the cases in water about half way up the body and just dim the lights and knock them into the water as they change color

That is what I am doing for now. OK for low volume, but I would like to upgrade to something that will be more controllable and hopefully consistent.

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This^^^ and the Eric Cortina video got me started... I chuck my little doo-dad in my lathe and run it at low RPM's and run my torch with the lights off.

Mike