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Oregon to criminalize hunting (heroin is legal)

The article states that it will "severely defund wildlife agencies" I would think that would include the state police.

The currently funded agencies have a difficult time dealing with poaching. When it's widespread and limited funds and officers? I wouldn't be concerned about them and do as I pleased.


So how will that work out for the environment and animals if they defund those agencies that manage and protect them?

Its sportsmen that have funded habitat and programs to preserve animals or introduce them where they have been wiped out.

My son went fishing the other day and mentioned some woman stopped to talk to him and ask if he was doing "catch and release".

I kind of thought in the back of my head just a busy body do-gooder one in a million.

Than Saturday morning both he and I are fishing and some woman comes along and asks if we are doing "catch and release".

First of all in the close proximity we live to a city I wouldnt eat shit thinking there is some sort of historical chemical issue if not in the water at least the sediment.

Second guessing if we had been having man boy love associations she probably wouldnt have even cared and approved of our actions.

This country is starting to suck because it is no longer the USA.
 
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We know how it will work out. We understand why and what happened in the past when there were no restrictions on hunting and fishing. History has a way of repeating.
So how will that work out for the environment and animals if they defund those agencies that manage and protect them?

Its sportsmen that have funded habitat and programs to preserve animals or introduce them where they have been wiped out.

My son went fishing the other day and mentioned some woman stopped to talk to him and ask if he was doing "catch and release".

I kind of thought in the back of my head just a busy body do-gooder one in a million.

Than Saturday morning both he and I are fishing and some woman comes along and asks if we are doing "catch and release".

First of all in the close proximity we live to a city I wouldnt eat shit thinking there is some sort of historical chemical issue if not in the water at least the sediment.

Second guessing if we had been having man boy love associations she probably wouldnt have even cared and approved of our actions.

This country is starting to suck because it is no longer the USA.
I don't take kindly to people who feel compelled to interfere in my life and my activities. It usually ends with their feelings hurt and hopefully a reminder before they do it to someone else.
 
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We know how it will work out. We understand why and what happened in the past when there were no restrictions on hunting and fishing. History has a way of repeating.

I don't take kindly to people who feel compelled to interfere in my life and my activities. It usually ends with their feelings hurt and hopefully a reminder before they do it to someone else.


This only ends when animals and fish have voting rights and Communists will harvest their ballots.
 
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I only scanned the whole thread and didn't see it mentioned, but the Abuse, Neglect and Assault Exemption, Modification and Improvement Act is represented by the acronym ANAEMIA, which is the British spelling for "anemia."
That has to be some kind of troll.
 
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As an Oregonian, I hope it passes. Lets light this candle.
First off life long dune goon here. I reside in texas now.

This appears to be a anti any meat product bill. The wording sounds like if you consume/sell meat that didn't die of natural causes you can get in trouble. I'm most likely wrong.
 
This is serious, and this sort of crap has a way of becoming official. There are simply NOT enough voters in the rest of the state to out-vote the leftist idiots in any single city of Oregon. The I-5 Corridor pretty much decides for the rest of the State.
 
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BTW heroine is legal is all 50 states.



The same dumb ass puritan who looks down his greasy nose, and find guilty, a person for taking heroine, bought from a random person on the street, that same dumb ass is popping Vicodin like a pez descender for his “back pain”



BUTTT instead of buying it from a dealer and the money going to a cartel, he buys it from the doc in the box and the money goes to Abbott Laboratories, and if you want in on that junkie...oops I mean god fearing man with “back pain” their stock ticker it ABT.



Honestly the puritanical BS needs to stop, it just makes people sound stupid
Spoken like a retard with no children who only thinks about himself.
Every year heroin causes over 20,000 deaths, and every year 160,000 Americans try heroin for the first time. The amount of crime and human misery this posion causes in incalculable. Why do you think all our enemies make it and try to smuggle it here when it carries the death penalty in their own countries?

You are a fucking retard, the and I hope decriminalized heroin fucking clobbers your family and your life life so you stop spitting out libertarian talking points that are every bit as fantasy as Marxist talking points. People doing heroin aren’t “free”, they’ve given their liberty to heroin, given up their free will, and are slaves in mind and body. Slavery is perfectly libertarian! This is one of the many hypocrisies of libertarianism and extremist ideology. When reality doesn’t fit their beliefs they just pretend they’re more moral for refusing to modify their ideology.

I think possession of heroin should carry life in prison. That would cost us about half of what having them loose costs. If you tried to sell heroin to my kids it would be the last thing you did before your permanent separation from God.
 
Spoken like a retard with no children who only thinks about himself.
Every year heroin causes over 20,000 deaths, and every year 160,000 Americans try heroin for the first time. The amount of crime and human misery this posion causes in incalculable. Why do you think all our enemies make it and try to smuggle it here when it carries the death penalty in their own countries?

You are a fucking retard, the and I hope decriminalized heroin fucking clobbers your family and your life life so you stop spitting out libertarian talking points that are every bit as fantasy as Marxist talking points. People doing heroin aren’t “free”, they’ve given their liberty to heroin, given up their free will, and are slaves in mind and body. Slavery is perfectly libertarian! This is one of the many hypocrisies of libertarianism and extremist ideology. When reality doesn’t fit their beliefs they just pretend they’re more moral for refusing to modify their ideology.

I think possession of heroin should carry life in prison. That would cost us about half of what having them loose costs. If you tried to sell heroin to my kids it would be the last thing you did before your permanent separation from God.

So I’m “retarded” because I said opiates are opiates? Interesting.

20k deaths isn’t shit, wheres your outrage and bleeding heart for all the fat asses? being fat kills over 20 fold more

Do you say the government should be allowed to dictate your diet too?

I don’t have the same faith in government as you, and making illegal a medical issue is pants on head stupid, as the great success the “war” on drugs has demonstrated.

As far as opiates destroying my family How?
Be it a pill or any other form, it’s a inanimate object, just like how my AR sitting in my closet hasn’t killed anyone, inanimate objects are not capable of verbs.

I’m also thinking about others when I say the government needs to mind its own business, 20k deaths? Get the fuck out of here with that, any idea how many of their own people governments have killed? 20k is a fucking rounding error

Also by god do you mean the government, or the Jesus? Because most organized religions don’t like folks worshipping other gods as well (competition is bad for business) and it appears you have taken the state as your lord and savior.

I trust my family, and others, making their own choices for their own bodies MUCH more than I trust the government to make those choices.

Per your dad bod threat for selling drugs to your kids, for one I don’t give two shits about your kids, I’m not in a gang nor do I write prescriptions, so that doesn’t apply, I do wonder if you make the same threat when you take your kid to the doctor.
All that being said, in your fantasy world where I’m selling drugs to your kid, if I was able to sell drugs your kid as a street dealer or as a doctor, maybe you should have done a better job at raising your kids, dare I say the failure is in your parenting as well as the makeup of your offspring if you are that concerned with them becoming addicted to drugs.

My parents never said anything that stupid, out of all their concerns me getting hooked on drugs or joining some ghetto gang never even crossed their mind, because they actually raised me right and I’m of good stock. If the above sounds alien to you, pull out
 
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Thank you for so openly confirming everything I said about blinkered fanaticism. Many here don't get you, but I do. I knew you would not disappoint.

Your analogies say it all. Pretending that two things are the same when in reality they are nothing alike is why you are so far off the rails. Understanding differences when it isn't theoretical, but is actually real is a beginning of wisdom. So much for libertarianism.

Honestly, I was mean about it, but you won't get it till it reaches out and grabs your ignorant, skinny, weak ass by the throat. Then I will feel bad for you, but it will be too late. Your life or the lives of people you care about will be ruined.

As to religion, you and I are in almost perfect agreement. You think that when you die there will be nothing but an empty void. I absolutely agree with you 100%. Our only small difference is that you think you will be somehow unaware of this utter emptiness, and I believe it will be your only awareness.
 
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So how will that work out for the environment and animals if they defund those agencies that manage and protect them?

Its sportsmen that have funded habitat and programs to preserve animals or introduce them where they have been wiped out.

My son went fishing the other day and mentioned some woman stopped to talk to him and ask if he was doing "catch and release".

I kind of thought in the back of my head just a busy body do-gooder one in a million.

Than Saturday morning both he and I are fishing and some woman comes along and asks if we are doing "catch and release".

First of all in the close proximity we live to a city I wouldnt eat shit thinking there is some sort of historical chemical issue if not in the water at least the sediment.

Second guessing if we had been having man boy love associations she probably wouldnt have even cared and approved of our actions.

This country is starting to suck because it is no longer the USA.
This has happened three times to me. My simplest solution is to back-cast, and "accidently hook" the asshole, and start yanking for the cast. OH, I apologize effusively, the entire time I am un-hooking them, but it certainly changes their attitude, when all three hooks on an overized lure take a good hold, and sink deep with the attempted cast. I love it.
 
So how will that work out for the environment and animals if they defund those agencies that manage and protect them?

Its sportsmen that have funded habitat and programs to preserve animals or introduce them where they have been wiped out.

My son went fishing the other day and mentioned some woman stopped to talk to him and ask if he was doing "catch and release".

I kind of thought in the back of my head just a busy body do-gooder one in a million.

Than Saturday morning both he and I are fishing and some woman comes along and asks if we are doing "catch and release".

First of all in the close proximity we live to a city I wouldnt eat shit thinking there is some sort of historical chemical issue if not in the water at least the sediment.

Second guessing if we had been having man boy love associations she probably wouldnt have even cared and approved of our actions.

This country is starting to suck because it is no longer the USA.
State Fish and Game IS theState Police. by and large they are pretty good guys, unlike the fish cops in CA, who are out of control.
 
Thank you for so openly confirming everything I said about blinkered fanaticism. Many here don't get you, but I do. I knew you would not disappoint.

Your analogies say it all. Pretending that two things are the same when in reality they are nothing alike is why you are so far off the rails. Understanding differences when it isn't theoretical, but is actually real is a beginning of wisdom. So much for libertarianism.

Honestly, I was mean about it, but you won't get it till it reaches out and grabs your ignorant, skinny, weak ass by the throat. Then I will feel bad for you, but it will be too late. Your life or the lives of people you care about will be ruined.

Cool

So what did I say that was incorrect?

Are you trying to say many prescriptions aren't opiates?? Or folks don’t get hooked on government OKed drugs? Or are you just against any type of medication that could possibly be addictive? You’re just flinging shit, why don’t you back it up and actually make a clear point.

Who said I’m a libertarian? Im not. Though I don’t think government is the answer to nearly as many problems as they cause.

Kinda creepy how you’re fantasying about how I look, I really never thought about how you might look, mostly because I don’t care, but also because I’m not into dudes, hey as long as it’s between consenting adults, you do you

Interesting using the word “fanatic” the few times I’m around a TV with the news on, I noticed they like that word, maybe watch less TV? Might help chill you out a little.
 
When your ideology is more important to you than reality I call you fanatic.

I don't believe we are in a opioid prescription epidemic anymore. Certainly at the end of the 00s, and teens this was a huge problem, but since then all sorts of reasonable protocols have been placed on physicians and pain clinics so they don't become pill factories. Abusing perscription medication is always going to be a concern, but I don't believe it is as big a problem as it was.

There is a place for opioid medication. There is no place for heroin. That you conflate the two and then double down is exactly what I'm talking about, and why you have so many friends.
 
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State Fish and Game IS theState Police. by and large they are pretty good guys, unlike the fish cops in CA, who are out of control.

In MA we have "Fish Cops".

Different from State Police yet with almost the same powers and Federal ability also.

In general they stick to the wildlife stuff but will act on road stuff when circumstances obligate them to do so.
 
This has happened three times to me. My simplest solution is to back-cast, and "accidently hook" the asshole, and start yanking for the cast. OH, I apologize effusively, the entire time I am un-hooking them, but it certainly changes their attitude, when all three hooks on an overized lure take a good hold, and sink deep with the attempted cast. I love it.

My son lost three lures while fishing that day.

Two are easily recoverable if I bring a set of loppers on an extension pole to cut the very end of the branches they are hung on.

Im afraid if I do it the local branch of the Audubon SS will be giving me all kinds of grief.

Unsure if its worth the $12 in plugs.
 
Spoken like a retard with no children who only thinks about himself.
Every year heroin causes over 20,000 deaths, and every year 160,000 Americans try heroin for the first time. The amount of crime and human misery this posion causes in incalculable. Why do you think all our enemies make it and try to smuggle it here when it carries the death penalty in their own countries?

You are a fucking retard, the and I hope decriminalized heroin fucking clobbers your family and your life life so you stop spitting out libertarian talking points that are every bit as fantasy as Marxist talking points. People doing heroin aren’t “free”, they’ve given their liberty to heroin, given up their free will, and are slaves in mind and body. Slavery is perfectly libertarian! This is one of the many hypocrisies of libertarianism and extremist ideology. When reality doesn’t fit their beliefs they just pretend they’re more moral for refusing to modify their ideology.

I think possession of heroin should carry life in prison. That would cost us about half of what having them loose costs. If you tried to sell heroin to my kids it would be the last thing you did before your permanent separation from God.
Lighten up Francis.

So how many people in your family have you lost to drugs?
 
When your ideology is more important to you than reality I call you fanatic.

I don't believe we are in a opioid prescription epidemic anymore. Certainly at the end of the 00s, and teens this was a huge problem, but since then all sorts of reasonable protocols have been placed on physicians and pain clinics so they don't become pill factories. Abusing perscription medication is always going to be a concern, but I don't believe it is as big a problem as it was.

There is a place for opioid medication. There is no place for heroin. That you conflate the two and then double down is exactly what I'm talking about, and why you have so many friends.

Guess I am a “fanatic” when it comes to the bill of rights and individual liberty. I’m cool wearing that.

Also opiates cause deaths like guns cause deaths. Inanimate objects don’t do verbs dude 😂

Yeah I’m also one of those odd balls that’s for individual responsibility

If you eat a ton of opiates, YOU killed yourself, not a pills fault.
Just like if a gang banger does a drive by and hits a baby, ain’t the gun that killed the baby, twas the person connected to the finger that pressed the trigger
 
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Prepare for a mass exodus from Oregon...oh wait, no they wont.

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Already been happening! Idaho is inundated with Kommiefornians, Orekommies and Kommietons aka Californians, Oregonians and Washingtonians.
 
Guess I am a “fanatic” when it comes to the bill of rights and individual liberty. I’m cool wearing that.

Also opiates cause deaths like guns cause deaths. Inanimate objects don’t do verbs dude 😂

Yeah I’m also one of those odd balls that’s for individual responsibility

If you eat a ton of opiates, YOU killed yourself, not a pills fault.
Just like if a gang banger does a drive by and hits a baby, ain’t the gun that killed the baby, twas the person connected to the finger that pressed the trigger
Not that you care about reality, but highly addictive drugs like heroin change a person’s brain chemistry and compel them to want more and to do anything to get it to the exception of all else. You are quite the defender of liberty and justice to promote or ignore such a substance that turns free citizens into slaves. You should get a fucking medal because you’re such a brave freedom fighter who is so true to the Bill of Rights.
Drugs do DO verbs, or rather they cause a person to do their bidding, which is reality when we’re talking about illegal drugs.

Now, I’ll grant you lots of low addictive drugs have been made illegal for dubious reasons, but addiction is real, and it does rob you of your free will. There is nothing more injurious to individual liberty than something that robs you of your very free will, period.
 
Not that you care about reality, but highly addictive drugs like heroin change a person’s brain chemistry and compel them to want more and to do anything to get it to the exception of all else. You are quite the defender of liberty and justice to promote or ignore such a substance that turns free citizens into slaves. You should get a fucking medal because you’re such a brave freedom fighter who is so true to the Bill of Rights.
Drugs do DO verbs, or rather they cause a person to do their bidding, which is reality when we’re talking about illegal drugs.

Now, I’ll grant you lots of low addictive drugs have been made illegal for dubious reasons, but addiction is real, and it does rob you of your free will. There is nothing more injurious to individual liberty than something that robs you of your very free will, period.

Please explain the actions the inanimate pill took.

As a test I took one of my multi vitamins pills, I put it on the table, it didnt do anything, I even yelled at it, nada. What am I doing wrong? How do I make it come alive and start taking slaves? Lol


I mean really? the pill turn you into a slave? Wow I think I saw that in a sci-fi movie once.

Lots of people take opiates post surgery and never take them again, I know more than a few athletes who have got themselves broken, put back together, and a script, and years later dig half a bottle out of the back of their closet “gee wonder what some weak minded junkie would pay for these?” And back in the closet or down the toilet they went.

Guess you also think AR15s cause them to mass murder people?

Not sure it’s “brave” to be for freedom, but it can take a little effort, it comes with a pretty bitter pill of self responsibility
 
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Prepare for a mass exodus from Oregon...oh wait, no they wont.

Doc
Don't be so sure , people in my town at least have been selling and moving to red states IN DROVES over the last year.

Including my self. This once beautiful state has been destroyed by liberal policies and Californian people moving here over the last 20 years.

It's very sad as this has been my home for almost 40 years.

I'm personally already packed and leaving this weekend for the great state of Tennessee

Oregon can rot with Kate brown and the liberal pukes who wanna keep destroying this state.
 
It's been difficult for me not to rib a college acquaintance in OR. He and his family were orgasmic over Biden and they all love to hunt. He has been thrilled year after year with the progressive agenda gaining steam and now.....unintended consequences. He's a true limousine liberal as long as it doesn't effect him.....'do as I say not as I do silly citizen'. All I've said thus far is 'so where are you planning your next hunting trip?'. I feel for the people of OR who are not progressive morons
 
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Please explain the actions the inanimate pill took.

As a test I took one of my multi vitamins pills, I put it on the table, it didnt do anything, I even yelled at it, nada. What am I doing wrong? How do I make it come alive and start taking slaves? Lol


I mean really? the pill turn you into a slave? Wow I think I saw that in a sci-fi movie once.

Lots of people take opiates post surgery and never take them again, I know more than a few athletes who have got themselves broken, put back together, and a script, and years later dig half a bottle out of the back of their closet “gee wonder what some weak minded junkie would pay for these?” And back in the closet or down the toilet they went.

Guess you also think AR15s cause them to mass murder people?

Not sure it’s “brave” to be for freedom, but it can take a little effort, it comes with a pretty bitter pill of self responsibility
So now we’re back to recreational heroin? You can handle it huh?
I have a brother-in-law who lives on the streets and is an addict. What would be rock bottom for a lot of people isn’t for him. Drugs have destroyed his life, and hurt his entire family. He doesn’t care. Or, rather he is so deep in addiction his real feelings are completely masked by addiction. Anyone who deals with addiction and people who choose to live on the streets (he’s not homeless, as he has a home to go to if he chooses) knows you cannot help them unless they first try to help themselves.

Every single, solitary, one will tell you they can handle it, and they know what they’re doing. I don’t say they’re not legally responsible for their actions, but I do say that if they were not addicted and in their right minds they would not make the choices they do, like neglecting and selling their children for more drugs.
 
So now we’re back to recreational heroin? You can handle it huh?
I have a brother-in-law who lives on the streets and is an addict. What would be rock bottom for a lot of people isn’t for him. Drugs have destroyed his life, and hurt his entire family. He doesn’t care. Or, rather he is so deep in addiction his real feelings are completely masked by addiction. Anyone who deals with addiction and people who choose to live on the streets (he’s not homeless, as he has a home to go to if he chooses) knows you cannot help them unless they first try to help themselves.

Every single, solitary, one will tell you they can handle it, and they know what they’re doing. I don’t say they’re not legally responsible for their actions, but I do say that if they were not addicted and in their right minds they would not make the choices they do, like neglecting and selling their children for more drugs.

I don’t know if I could handle it, I don’t care to find out.

Lots of bums who got that way with booze, yet lots of folks who drink are highly successful, many white collar folks have done some nose candy in their day, and most everyone who isn’t a hard core religion person has at least tried pot.

But I know, his failings arnt his fault, it the fault of the person who supplied him with the drugs and the opiates themselves. It was also the forks fault that the big girl on tinder is fat too
 
This is a case of one urban county shutting on a lot of rural counties.
Fishing and hunting in Oregon is HUGE!

I hope this raises a shit storm and I think it will.
Hard lefties are rolling aggressively and I hope they roll of a cliff!
 
I’m pretty sure if everyone switched to hookless hooks, the “fish are people too“ crowd will not seriously object to you and your son having a nice day out on the water.

Some thing for hunters, using bullet less bullets and arrow less arrows will help calm the ”animals are people too“ crowd. Of course, staying completely out of ”their” domain would also be a requirement. (Living somewhere like Pluto is probably the only place they consider not living in the animals domain.) Oh wait, Pluto is no longer a planet so that might make you a sort of Belter. (an Oarter) Now all true people living down the Well hate Belters. (According to the Gospel of biden, harri, pelosi, and shumer, aoc and the rest of the leftist squad). But then they already hate us so I guess nothing will change.
 
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I have traveled Eastern Oregon on the way to Idaho, people are nice, friendly and a lot of generational agriculture, Medford is also Agricultural, The people need to read Portland the riot act and take back the State, just like Eastern Washington needs to take back their State
And Virginia, Richmond and NOVA are cesspools and the stink just keeps moving.
 
Enough Said
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This is a case of one urban county shutting on a lot of rural counties.
Fishing and hunting in Oregon is HUGE!

I hope this raises a shit storm and I think it will.
Hard lefties are rolling aggressively and I hope they roll of a cliff!

It’s also interesting how few of those hippies know that most of those trails and areas are mostly funded by hunting permits, ammo taxes, etc. Hunters do multipliers more for saving the wilderness than granola munching hippies
 
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It’s also interesting how few of those hippies know that most of those trails and areas are mostly funded by hunting permits, ammo taxes, etc. Hunters do multipliers more for saving the wilderness than granola munching hippies
Quite true
Biting the hand that feeds them.

But that’s SOP for socialists.
 
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