Spotters Looking to purchase a spotter for PRS competition.

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davigf01 said:

Thank you so much!
Was looking at Leopold SX-5, but I do not see where you can add a reticle. Complete rookie at this.

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Its an eyepiece swap on the nicer stuff.

They come standard with a regular eyepiece. I like that you can swap the eyepiece back and forth. And the red dot mount on the Burris is fantastic if you want fast target acquisition.

davigf01 said:

It IS impressive. Cameraland and Optics Planet have a good price at roughly $1529

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Just be aware that when using the reticle eyepiece it becomes a fixed 30x and not a variable zoom spotter.

Choose Cameraland. Optics Planet can have issues.

Covertnoob5 said:

Just be aware that when using the reticle eyepiece it becomes a fixed 30x and not a variable zoom spotter.

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A good point to be aware of.

You lose out on the ability to crank up to high magnification. But the Field of View is greater in the 30x fixed wide angle eyepiece than it is on 20x of the variable. Its a great feature.

I only slap on the variable eyepiece when I'm stretching the legs on my long range boomers.

Go to a match and look through binos and spotters in real life before you drop cash. I bet you’ll like binos better for Prs

You can also consider the Athlon Cronus Tactical 7-42x60 ED Spotting Scope - Grey - TSSR FFP MIL Reticle

• Aprochromatic Lens System: Apochromatic lense system gives you the result of images which have greater contrast, sharpness and color definition
• ED Glass: ED glass gives you an image with little or no chromatic fringe so the final result brings an ultimate clearest and sharpest image to your eyes
• Aluminum Alloy Chassis: Aluminum Alloy chassis protects the lens system from the harshest elements you may encounter
• XPL Coating: XPL Coating gives you an extra protection on the exterior lenses from dirt, oil and scratches
• Advanced Fully Multi-Coated: Advanced Fully Multi-Coated lenses gives you better light transmission to bring optimum brightness and true color across the entire light spectrum.
• Argon Purged: Argon Purging uses the inertia gas with bigger size molecules to purge any moisture out of the tube giving you better waterproofing and thermal stability .
• Waterproof: Waterproof to protects the binocular in the harshest weather conditions or if accidentally submerged underwater
• Tactical Accessorized Readiness: Embedded Picatinny Rail base mount allows you to add on your tactical accessories effortlessly
• Patented High Riser Mount: Patented High Riser Mount allows you to mount and adjust your Athlon Laser Rangefiner to co-witness with your Cronus Tactical Spotting Scope.

And besides Doug and Cameraland doing you well, the scope Doug just mentioned got a nice review by Ilya.

2 good reasons…

sleeplz said:

Go to a match and look through binos and spotters in real life before you drop cash. I bet you’ll like binos better for Prs

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THIS X1000.

I have an expensive 80mm spotter that I love, and it is great for ELR or very long stages, but to look through it all day is extremely fatiguing on your eyes and totally unnecessary under 1,200 yards in full daylight to spot an impact. A good set of 10X binos (cost about the same) is way more pleasant to look through all day, and you are not going to miss an impact through them. What's more the much wider field of view makes it a hell of a lot easier to transition between targets on multi target stages (which are very common). I only bring my spotter to matches to loan to the ROs if there is a really long, single target stage. They are always appreciative, but I would never carry it through a match, because it's heavy and hard to use on the vast majority of stages.

If you are looking at holes in paper, or 1000+yards they can't be beat. For PRS they are not ideal at all.

davigf01 said:

Yes sir. Are there any that act like a first focal plane rifle scope, and change with the magnification?

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I think Hensoldt has one? Or had one.

Way more than most folks want to spend.

Birddog6424 said:

I think Hensoldt has one? Or had one.

Way more than most folks want to spend.

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Bushnell has one. 15-45.

Not alpha glass. Works just fine.

Leupold mark4 might be something if you want first focal

i think some people have way better vision than i do because i am not sure why so many think that good 10x binos work better than something with far more magnification. if 10x or 15x is all you need, why do they even make more powerful spotting scopes?
i think maybe there are 2 different types of spotting.

theLBC said:

i think some people have way better visions than i do because i am not sure why so many think that good 10x binos work better than something with far more magnification. if 10x or 15x is all you need, why do they even make more powerful spotting scopes?
i think maybe there are 2 different types of spotting.

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Thats absolutely true.

Spotters are fantastic for range shooting. Not as comfortable as binos, but hard to beat that magnification.

PRS is dynamic. Tons of target transition, finding targets, trying to memorize a location so you can find them quickly on the clock.. etc.

I like my 10x over my 15x for PRS. Its not so much a spotting issue as it is finding the targets and marking their location, and seeing mirage. I get a much better feel for those things with a high quality 10x.

For PRS match use (either as a shooter or an RO pulling spotter duties), I will take a good pair of 15x binos over a spotting scope any day, and twice on Sundays.

theLBC said:

i think some people have way better vision than i do because i am not sure why so many think that good 10x binos work better than something with far more magnification. if 10x or 15x is all you need, why do they even make more powerful spotting scopes?
i think maybe there are 2 different types of spotting.

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Whatever they make more powerful spotting scopes for, I am convinced it is not PRS.

I prefer binoculars for all spotting applications.

Even ELR (2500ish).

In my experience, the extra magnification of spotting scopes is far overshadowed by the lack of context in the visual field.

I'm always trying to get more information out of what I see.

Binoculars work for me.

Spotters do not.

iktomi said:

Whatever they make more powerful spotting scopes for, I am convinced it is not PRS.

I prefer binoculars for all spotting applications.

Even ELR (2500ish).

In my experience, the extra magnification of spotting scopes is far overshadowed by the lack of context in the visual field.

I'm always trying to get more information out of what I see.

Binoculars work for me.

Spotters do not.

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agreed.
i have steiner binos and they are great for spotting "targets and hits", but i think some folks want or need more than that and want to see where the hits are going, and i think this is where the difference is between the 2 kinds of spotters. for closer inspection, i use a mk4.

theLBC said:

agreed.
i have steiner binos and they are great for spotting "targets and hits", but i think some folks want or need more than that and want to see where the hits are going, and i think this is where the difference is between the 2 kinds of spotters. for closer inspection, i use a mk4.

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Ditto.

I'm running the new Steiner M1050 R LRF with the mil reticle. They are the bomb for PRS.

Please consider saving and buying something NOT made in China.

On my last PRS match I brought both a 12x vortex that my club owns an my own Kowa fixed 32x. The 12x binos worked great including the 850m stages. The top shooters here all use binos and now I understand why.

davigf01 said:

Have not found reticle eyepieces for any Leopold models.

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Are you talking about separately purchased eyepieces? I don’t know about the availability of those.

However, Leupold makes a number of FFP spotters with mil reticles straight from the factory. They also make a MOA one (with some mil dots included) in their Gold Ring line.

edit: see here for the mil Mark 4 versions https://www.leupold.com/shop/spotting-scopes/series/mark-4

For PRS usage, Leupy 15x Santiam binos are absolutely awesome.