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Maggie’s Situational Ethics Question

Read the scenario and choose your answer

  • A) Get the General Tso’s chicken with a side of stir-fried vegetables

  • B) Get the Spicy Beef & Pepper Stir-Fry with Fried Rice

  • C) Get the Large Deluxe Pizza with Anchovies and Mushrooms

  • D) Get the Large Pepperoni and Italian Sausage with Extra Cheese pizza.


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Longshot231

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    This is a situational ethics question. The scenario below is one which could possibly happen. You will be presented with the information then asked to choose a course of action.

    There are no right or wrong answers but be prepared to justify your answer.

    Here is the scenario:

    You live in an upscale neighborhood in suburbia. The neighbors are an eclectic group with a great deal of diversity and education levels. The house that you live in is at the end of a cul-de-sac. One of your more colorful neighbors lives near the entrance of the cul-de-sac about two houses from your home.

    This neighbor’s yard is festooned with Biden-Harris, BLM, ANTIFA, anti-gun and COVID vaccination signs. She’s very outspoken on her beliefs that all guns should be banned. Anything that she disagrees with is considered hate speech. She believes that anyone criticizing the CDC or Dr. Fauci should be put on a terrorist watch list. If she had her way, they would all be in “re-education centers” with their children placed in approved foster homes.

    She’s garnered lots of media attention with her gun buy-back programs and petitions to the city to ban gun stores and anyone with FFLs from inside the city limits. She has even petitioned the state legislature to release the names and address of everyone that has CCW permits.

    Your neighbor exhibits a particular disdain for homeschoolers and calls them Neanderthals. She’s an atheist with the “coexist” bumper sticker on her car.

    Her husband is a very frail man, looks very unhealthy, gaunt, and effeminate. Their teenage son identifies as a transgender and fancies rainbow-colored skirts that go down no farther than his knees. Both parents are very supportive of his gay pride parties and back yard cookouts with friends crowding the Jacuzzi and indulging in margaritas and vegan hors d'oeuvres.

    You do your best to conceal the fact that you like guns. You’ve gone to the point to put the long guns in cases that appear to be those which would accommodate electric keyboards with stickers like “Yamaha” and “Casio” on the outside. You do this to avoid controversy and attract the attention of would-be-burglars. Nevertheless, she’s been seen eyeing you with some suspicion through her binoculars from her living room window.

    It’s just after sunset but you and your wife have not eaten dinner yet. You decide to go get something to-go from a restaurant and bring it home. You ask your lovely bride what she would like, and she replies that either Chinese or Pizza would be nice. The choice is yours.

    You strap on your handgun and stuff the wallet with your CCW permit in you pocket, put on the jacket, and go out the door. The weather is nice, and you roll the windows down in the car to enjoy the fresh air.

    As you pull out of the driveway you hear a group of men laughing, uttering expletives, a boy screaming in pain and a woman yelling, “Oh God help me! Please don’t!”

    Continuing down the street you see that there are about a dozen motorcycles with as many burly, hairy, and very large biker-dudes causing the mayhem in your neighbor's yard. The woman is pinned to the ground by several of the bikers, her pants ripped off and legs held apart. One of the men has his pants down around his ankles ready to violate her. She's found religion all of a sudden with her petitions to the Almighty!

    The husband is sitting on the front porch, crying, and sucking his thumb. The transgender, teenage son is getting bitch-slapped by a gorilla with no neck and screaming like a baby rabbit caught in the claws of a ravenous eagle.

    With little time to think you need to decide. Choose one answer and provide the justification for your choice in your response.

    Do you… (make your selection in the poll)

    Please respond with the justification for your answer below in 100 words or less.
     
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    Get the Large Pepperoni and Italian Sausage with Extra Cheese pizza.

    Easy peezee. After I handled the situation in my neighborhood I would want pizza. No ethical delimma here. No matter how much I hate another humans belief system in not going to allow them this fate.

    It's also why I'll die early in the apocalypse and I'm perfectly fine with that.
     
    None of those food choices are appealing.

    As far as the goings-on next door, I’d slip the shot caller a few bucks to finish the whetwork then, depending upon how they handle everything, issue more contracts.

    Assuming the program can be scaled efficiently and effectively nationwide, we could solve the leftist/commie/BLM/Antifa problem in this country within a few short months to a year at most.

    Once victory was in hand, I’d enjoy an extra cheese/pepperoni pizza that id make myself from scratch (no sausage).
     
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    I swear this has been posted before.

    I’d help someone being raped even if they are assholes. Big mans watching.

    But it could backfire, maybe the husbands into being a cuck and this is his birthday present and I ruin all the festivities?
     
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    I'd help the family. Call 911 and drop some bad guys, because in my area, I'd most likely be a hero. Then I'd get jalepenos with the Large Pepperoni and Italian Sausage with Extra Cheese pizza.
     
    General TSO's every day of the week. No questions asked. Because it is the right thing to do for the greater good.

    I would also get a few Large Meat Lovers Pizzas as those bimers look like they are working up a good appetite.
     
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    General Tso's. What's this nonsense about stir fried vegetables though? That's rabbit food. It's the food my food eats.

    Double meat, fried rice if I'm feeling whimsical.
     
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    If my choices are from mediocre food places, the spicy beef w/peppers and fried rice. If the places are known to have great food, meat lovers pizza w/extra cheese. And just as MarinePMI said, ask about dessert. I know my wife’s choice would be gooey brownies, mine would be ice cream so we would compromise…with both. Remember, make good choices…
     
    General Tso........... Specify the whole peppers rather than the pepper flakes.....
    Make sure it is "To Go" since there will be a show to watch when you get home.... Have the wife get out the lawn chairs while you are gone.

    enjoy
     
    OK only a selfish asshole would leave out the choice of buying some pizza for the bikers. For all that is holy please tell me you don't have a neighbor like this. This a hypothetical neighbor yes????
     
    I don't care for chinese food. I like anchovies only in moderation and wouldn't want a whole pizza with them (mushrooms make no difference).
     
    OK only a selfish asshole would leave out the choice of buying some pizza for the bikers. For all that is holy please tell me you don't have a neighbor like this. This a hypothetical neighbor yes????

    I do have some neighbors like that. Fortunately the BLM crowd moved out.

    I know! I Know! I need to move but can right now.

    Besides more assholes would probably pop up in my new digs.
     
    Are we obligated to buy dinner for all the bikers now? Cause I’m gonna need to know what they want otherwise it’s buffet style.
     
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    Are we obligated to buy dinner for all the bikers now? Cause I’m gonna need to know what they want otherwise it’s buffet style.

    I didn’t intend that to be one of the options as I didn’t think any of the respondents would be stopping long enough.

    Not having been around that culture, I’m going out on a limb and guess that you’d have to show up with pulled pork barbecue sandwiches, ribs, roast’n ears, baked beans and a couple kegs of beer.

    If any esteemed biker brethren can offer some insight we’d be honored and benefit from your contributions.
     
    I didn’t intend that to be one of the options as I didn’t think any of the respondents would be stopping long enough.

    Not having been around that culture, I’m going out on a limb and guess that you’d have to show up with pulled pork barbecue sandwiches, ribs, roast’n ears, baked beans and a couple kegs of beer.

    If any esteemed biker brethren can offer some insight we’d be honored and benefit from your contributions.
    When I had biker neighbors they invited me over for steak, shrimp, Cajun food, all sorts of good shit. I ate like a king for free a few years lol. I’d just offer to make a shit ton of jalapeño poppers every now and then, they even supplied the shit to make those.

    And gallons upon gallons of booze were had.
     
    When I had biker neighbors they invited me over for steak, shrimp, Cajun food, all sorts of good shit. I ate like a king for free a few years lol. I’d just offer to make a shit ton of jalapeño poppers every now and then, they even supplied the shit to make those.

    And gallons upon gallons of booze were had.

    Wow! I didn't realize that sub-culture of our egalitarian empire ate that good. I need to get out more.
     
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    This is a situational ethics question. The scenario below is one which could possibly happen. You will be presented with the information then asked to choose a course of action.

    There are no right or wrong answers but be prepared to justify your answer.

    Here is the scenario:

    You live in an upscale neighborhood in suburbia. The neighbors are an eclectic group with a great deal of diversity and education levels. The house that you live in is at the end of a cul-de-sac. One of your more colorful neighbors lives near the entrance of the cul-de-sac about two houses from your home.

    This neighbor’s yard is festooned with Biden-Harris, BLM, ANTIFA, anti-gun and COVID vaccination signs. She’s very outspoken on her beliefs that all guns should be banned. Anything that she disagrees with is considered hate speech. She believes that anyone criticizing the CDC or Dr. Fauci should be put on a terrorist watch list. If she had her way, they would all be in “re-education centers” with their children placed in approved foster homes.

    She’s garnered lots of media attention with her gun buy-back programs and petitions to the city to ban gun stores and anyone with FFLs from inside the city limits. She has even petitioned the state legislature to release the names and address of everyone that has CCW permits.

    Your neighbor exhibits a particular disdain for homeschoolers and calls them Neanderthals. She’s an atheist with the “coexist” bumper sticker on her car.

    Her husband is a very frail man, looks very unhealthy, gaunt, and effeminate. Their teenage son identifies as a transgender and fancies rainbow-colored skirts that go down no father than his knees. Both parents are very supportive of his gay pride parties and back yard cookouts with friends crowding the jacuzzi and indulging in margaritas and vegan hors d'oeuvres.

    You do your best to conceal the fact that you like guns. You’ve gone to the point to put the long guns in cases that appear to be those which would accommodate electric keyboards with stickers like “Yamaha” and “Casio” on the outside. You do this to avoid controversy and attract the attention of would-be-burglars. Nevertheless, she’s been seen eyeing you with some suspicion through her binoculars from her living room window.

    It’s just after sunset but you and your wife have not eaten dinner yet. You decide to go get something to-go from a restaurant and bring it home. You ask your lovely bride what she would like, and she replies that either Chinese or Pizza would be nice. The choice is yours.

    You strap on your handgun and stuff the wallet with your CCW permit in you pocket, put on the jacket, and go out the door. The weather is nice, and you roll the windows down in the car to enjoy the fresh air.

    As you pull out of the driveway you hear a group of men laughing, uttering expletives, a boy screaming in pain and a woman yelling, “Oh God help me! Please don’t!”

    Continuing down the street you see that there are about a dozen motorcycles with as many burly, hairy, and very large biker-dudes causing the mayhem in your neighbor's yard. The woman is pinned to the ground by several of the bikers, her pants ripped off and legs held apart. One of the men has his pants down around his ankles ready to violate her. She's found religion all of a sudden with her petitions to the Almighty!

    The husband is sitting on the front porch, crying, and sucking his thumb. The transgender, teenage son is getting bitch-slapped by a gorilla with no neck and screaming like a baby rabbit caught in the claws of a ravenous eagle.

    With little time to think you need to decide. Choose one answer and provide the justification for your choice in your response.

    Do you… (make your selection in the poll)

    Please respond with the justification for your answer below in 100 words or less.
    Go out?
    Shit,I'm ordering Grub-Hub and going to sit on MY lawn because I don't want to miss anything in case you have to testify.
    The last thing you want to do is lie in court about a liberal.
     
    Get the Large Pepperoni and Italian Sausage with Extra Cheese pizza.

    Easy peezee. After I handled the situation in my neighborhood I would want pizza. No ethical delimma here. No matter how much I hate another humans belief system in not going to allow them this fate.

    It's also why I'll die early in the apocalypse and I'm perfectly fine with that.
    People like you are part of the problem.
     
    I would have a Garlic jim's Hercules delivered.
    I would sit in a chair on my porch with a gun to protect my property and family.
    I prefer not to use my gun's to protect those who think that I should not be allowed to own guns.
    Let them call the police who they helped defund.
     
    Pizza double everything and triple meat. Call 911 and wait to make sure they had enough gas to get there after your neighbor demanded the popo be defunded. Once police had it in hand go get pizza and if they don’t show make sure the bad guys don’t wander around the neighborhood messing with normal people. I wouldn’t want my neighbor to sue me because I scared her with my bad scary guns and now her husband can’t perform anymore.
     
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    Works for me.

    I'm not going to change my moral compass for anyone on the internet, or act like someone im not to impress inflate my epeen.

    He has a legitimate point. People like you, a lot of us in other ways, are a large part of the problem.

    This thread illustrates that relatively well.

    You see, there is a natural order to things. Of this I'm sure you're aware. The diseased views of the left are not self-sustainable. Those people would die or fail to reproduce without undue influence (protection and servitude) of others with differing views.

    The way you responded seemed to imply that others whos views YOU differ with, within this thread, are somehow flexing egos or generally just intending to discredit their views. I think this is incorrect, a straw-man argument, so to speak.

    You are arguing that you hold the moral high ground. I am arguing that protecting people who would destroy you is what has turned our country to shit. I'm not saying they're weak, I'm saying you are weak for protecting them. Instead of the natural order of things taking them, you see, the natural order of things is here to take you and everyone on your side of the fence because of this moral mindset from which you seem to derive some kind of perceived superiority.

    Nay, I argue that mindset is a greater enemy than the far left. That mindset is, I believe, their greatest weapon.
     
    He has a legitimate point. People like you, a lot of us in other ways, are a large part of the problem.

    This thread illustrates that relatively well.

    You see, there is a natural order to things. Of this I'm sure you're aware. The diseased views of the left are not self-sustainable. Those people would die or fail to reproduce without undue influence (protection and servitude) of others with differing views.

    The way you responded seemed to imply that others whos views YOU differ with, within this thread, are somehow flexing egos or generally just intending to discredit their views. I think this is incorrect, a straw-man argument, so to speak.

    You are arguing that you hold the moral high ground. I am arguing that protecting people who would destroy you is what has turned our country to shit. I'm not saying they're weak, I'm saying you are weak for protecting them. Instead of the natural order of things taking them, you see, the natural order of things is here to take you and everyone on your side of the fence because of this moral mindset from which you seem to derive some kind of perceived superiority.

    Nay, I argue that mindset is a greater enemy than the far left. That mindset is, I believe, their greatest weapon.

    While the attempted intellectual reply to this thread is relatively appreciated, we each have our own moral compass and it is tuned to each individual person.

    Saving someone from rape isn't a moral high ground, its a moral necessity (in my humble opinion). Take away your knowledge of her past "infractions" and what do you do? Leave her to the natural order of things? But that isn't the point of this post now is it. Its a fun and jovial post in an attempt to draw in responses, which it did.

    My comment was simple, directed, and referring 100% to myself. I was faced with two options, post my simple moral split second reaction to a situation I approached, or act macho and cool (again referring to myself, calm down fido) about how I would let her "burn at the stake" for her beliefs and actions. No matter what I wanted to do, I wouldn't allow it to happen, plain and simple, and I am not going to act like I would...that would be a flat out lie. The fact that you applied that statement to the entire hide, and anyone who posted here is a reflection of you, and I would appreciate it if you wouldn't twist my words to fit your argument. If I want to insult this group, the hide, or you, you won't have to question if it is a vailed comment, nor who it is directed at.

    Now relax.
     
    Definitely the pepper steak. But I'd also get the pepperoni and sausage pizza for later. Everyone knows that you're hungry an hour after eating Chinese food.
     
    You are arguing that you hold the moral high ground. I am arguing that protecting people who would destroy you is what has turned our country to shit. I'm not saying they're weak, I'm saying you are weak for protecting them. Instead of the natural order of things taking them, you see, the natural order of things is here to take you and everyone on your side of the fence because of this moral mindset from which you seem to derive some kind of perceived superiority.

    Nay, I argue that mindset is a greater enemy than the far left. That mindset is, I believe, their greatest weapon.

    Exactly, My scenario is a fictitious one. Nonetheless, real life stories have taken place like this all over the world.

    I've helped people that have wronged me before. Very few have ever thanked me. The shit-heads usually stay shit-heads.

    The leftists of today would dance in our blood if the police were to ever enforce some stupid red-flag-gun-confiscation order.

    I've met plenty of people in my life that, really, really wanted to destroy me. They are the unrepentant ones.

    When I was a freshman in high school I beat the hell out of a kid smaller than me. The hallway that it happened in was crowded shoulder to shoulder with other kids.

    They were cheering me on urging me to kill the little motherfucker. Why would they do that you might ask?

    It's because he was a mean, evil little asshole. When he was much younger, he smashed a brick into another kid's head. That caused the brain damage and mental retardation. I remember the poor mentally retarded kid and all the suffering he went through.

    I've seen a lot of bad things in my life but I'm brought to tears when I think about that kid with mental retardation as a result of an evil little fuckhead that probably wasn't spanked.

    Well, I fixed his ass that day. I messed his face and head up so bad that I had to wash the blood off of my hands and wore it the rest of the day on my clothes.

    And guess what? There wasn't a teacher around. This wasn't surprising as the noise from the other kids was deafening. The teachers probably heard that the little evil prick was getting his just reward and stayed out of it.

    The evil prick never messed with me again but he was still nasty toward everyone else. He learned part of a lesson that day.

    I say only part because he never learned to become a decent human being.

    That's just one example of these evil people that won't change despite the good deeds you would do for them in the hopes of changing their mindset.

    I wouldn't piss on a character like I described in the scenario if she were on fire because she'd pour gasoline on me if I were in flames.
     
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    Sounds like her chickens have come home to roost. Wouldn't lift a finger to help her in any way. If the cops showed up later, I'd be a terrible witness. Gee officer, I thought she was just welcoming some new arrivals to the neighborhood. Liberals should reap what the sow.

    Post the same question a year from now. See how the answers differ after we loose more of our freedoms, if not our country.
     
    For the people that would confront and stop what was going on let me make a few points. Your going to engage multiple people that are showing no restraint, probably have lots of fire power and willing to use it in broad daylight with a handgun. The victim will probably after the fact sue you and make excuses for the poor down trodden attackers. The media will portray you as a mass shooter because you will have to shoot a few of them. The popo will search your home and find a large stash of guns and ammo and the atf will find something to hang on you. In these times the answer is obvious to me. If it was my friends or family I would be willing to pay that price but not for someone like that neighbor.
     
    For the people that would confront and stop what was going on let me make a few points. Your going to engage multiple people that are showing no restraint, probably have lots of fire power and willing to use it in broad daylight with a handgun. The victim will probably after the fact sue you and make excuses for the poor down trodden attackers. The media will portray you as a mass shooter because you will have to shoot a few of them. The popo will search your home and find a large stash of guns and ammo and the atf will find something to hang on you. In these times the answer is obvious to me. If it was my friends or family I would be willing to pay that price but not for someone like that neighbor.

    Truer words have never been spoken.
     
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    While the attempted intellectual reply to this thread is relatively appreciated, we each have our own moral compass and it is tuned to each individual person.

    Saving someone from rape isn't a moral high ground, its a moral necessity (in my humble opinion). Take away your knowledge of her past "infractions" and what do you do? Leave her to the natural order of things? But that isn't the point of this post now is it. Its a fun and jovial post in an attempt to draw in responses, which it did.

    My comment was simple, directed, and referring 100% to myself. I was faced with two options, post my simple moral split second reaction to a situation I approached, or act macho and cool (again referring to myself, calm down fido) about how I would let her "burn at the stake" for her beliefs and actions. No matter what I wanted to do, I wouldn't allow it to happen, plain and simple, and I am not going to act like I would...that would be a flat out lie. The fact that you applied that statement to the entire hide, and anyone who posted here is a reflection of you, and I would appreciate it if you wouldn't twist my words to fit your argument. If I want to insult this group, the hide, or you, you won't have to question if it is a vailed comment, nor who it is directed at.

    Now relax.
    My, my your attempt at an intellectually superior reply is marred by 2 things. One your typo of veiled. And two your ridiculous argument that "Take away your knowledge of her past "infractions" and what do you do". Take away Hitlers past infractions and he was a great guy. Take away Jeffrey Dahmers past actions.....get it? Am I equating this hypothetical woman to Hitler.....yes yes I am. Did I trigger you?
     
    Anyone remember the gun fight between the bikers at the restaurant in Texas a couple years ago?
    Your survival time would be registered in seconds and then they would finish doing whatever they wanted. They would probably help themselves to whatever leftovers were in your fridge after having a party with your wife. Meanwhile your corpse would be snacked upon by the evening bugs.
    Yes, I do know several people that live that lifestyle. It ain't like joining up into the cub scouts.
     
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    My, my your attempt at an intellectually superior reply is marred by 2 things. One your typo of veiled. And two your ridiculous argument that "Take away your knowledge of her past "infractions" and what do you do". Take away Hitlers past infractions and he was a great guy. Take away Jeffrey Dahmers past actions.....get it? Am I equating this hypothetical woman to Hitler.....yes yes I am. Did I trigger you?

    Going to take a lot more than the Bear Pit to trigger me. But I like your style!

    When my old man went SF and spent 30 years doing it, I went rescue and tried to change the world. It's who I still am whether I am retired or not. You all can call me same shit he did/does, a guy sticking to my moral compass while the world burns and has no place for it. We still have a damn good time shooting, talking trash about the world, and going on trips, I am sure we all can to.

    Like I said, still won't change who I am or my answer.
     
    About 15 years ago I was in a bar in Waco, Texas watching some bimbo pick up 1$ bills off of a dance floor.

    Some black dudes and Mexican dudes decided that they didn't like each other very much and I ran out of ones and had to hit the road.

    As I was getting in my truck I heard quite a commotion behind me. The two offending parties were yelling at one another and posturing outside the "establishment" in the parking lot.

    It was then I heard the unmistakeable sound of a chainsaw going off and the Mexicans running the blade against the side of the black dudes car.

    Apparently no one had a gun, or at least they had decided not to brandish it.

    It was entertaining enough that I pulled out and turned around so I could get a better view of the fun.

    Eventually sirens and people wearing blue ended the fun, without bloodshed.
     
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    Anyone remember the gun fight between the bikers at the restaurant in Texas a couple years ago?
    Your survival time would be registered in seconds and then they would finish doing whatever they wanted. They would probably help themselves to whatever leftovers were in your fridge after having a party with your wife. Meanwhile your corpse would be snacked upon by the evening bugs.

    And they would get away with it.
     
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    Anyone remember the gun fight between the bikers at the restaurant in Texas a couple years ago?
    Your survival time would be registered in seconds and then they would finish doing whatever they wanted. They would probably help themselves to whatever leftovers were in your fridge after having a party with your wife. Meanwhile your corpse would be snacked upon by the evening bugs.
    Yes, I do know several people that live that lifestyle. It ain't like joining up into the cub scouts.

    Is this the shootout that you are referring to?

     
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