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Kung Flu is kicking my ass

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    Anyone have any advice?

    Fresh air and a ton of water seem to be helping a little bit. Dayquil too.

    Im not on my death bed or anything. Just looking to get a little more comfortable.
     
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    Fresh air and sunshine did wonder for me. Take it slow or you’ll pay heavy for it. Lots of ice water was good, and if you know anyone that makes homemade soup get some.
     
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    First I'd suggest making sure you seek competent medial help at the earliest stage possible.
    Early treatment is a key.

    Lots of folks have had good success with Ivermecitin, when given with plenty of zinc and C & D helping to shorten their symptoms.
    See if your healthcare professional will prescribe it along with HCQ and then if now, try one of the call in pharmacy options.

    The key is NOT to wait until you can't breathe and such before getting treatment.

    I'd suggest getting a fingertip SpO2 meter and using it often to keep track of where you are at, and if you start getting around 90, you need to get to the ER poste haste.
     
    ^^^^ what @W54/XM-388 said. The pneumonia caught me up real good. My O2 was in the mid 80s and I went to the ER. Had single lung pneumonia develop in about a week after being diagnosed with kung flu. Got admitted to hospital and put on O2. If gets real quick when pneumonia comes around.
     
    *** I'm not a doctor. I could easily kill you if I tried to treat you with anything other than a bandage! ***

    Couple things not mentioned.

    I was told by doc to take a large dose of D3 on day one. 20,000 iu day one, then 2,000 daily.

    An acid reducer is supposed to reduce viral load. Doc told me 80mg/day pepcid ac.

    I was advised to take mucinex per package dosage. You need plenty of water with this.

    I was given a zpac to prevent a bact infection.
     
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    What @DocRDS said. Wife and I both had it. Made it through fine. Hope you feel better.
     
    Are you experiencing fever/fatigue typical of influenza, or significant respiratory issues?

    As said above, don't F around with breathing issues - saturated O2 below 90% is a trip to the hospital RFN. Seeking help too late is the worst possible thing you could do.

    If you are within 7 or so days of symptoms, look into Regeneron monoclonal antibodies

    Stay hydrated - I know a number of people who have seen their urine progressively get darker and eventually needed bags of saline.

    /I'm not a doctor, Jim, I'm a pilot on a gun forum
     
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    Don't have any advice other that whats already been said. It just pisses me off to no end every time I hear of another case like this. This was not only preventable but intentional, attempted murder.

    Good luck, OP.

    Fuck Fauchi, Gates, China and their domestic Dem. terrorist collaborators.
     
    Lots of people here in central La have gotten good results with the antibody infusion. Also several Drs around here will give you ivermectin plus a zpack and OD on vitamins, and a few people have told me their symptoms were all but gone in 24 hrs. Gatorade to keep hydrated.
     
    On a more serious note, In general drinking lots of alcohol tends to strip your body of Vitamin C and weaken your immune system.
    So I'm going to suggest fighting COVID-19 with lot of alcohol is probably counterproductive.
     
    On a more serious note, In general drinking lots of alcohol tends to strip your body of Vitamin C and weaken your immune system.
    So I'm going to suggest fighting COVID-19 with lot of alcohol is probably counterproductive.
    Your no fun at all. :mad:

    Bourbon is a better medicine
    ^^^ I recommend Pappy's if you can get it, if not Woodford Reserve is a close second for a LOT less $$$.(y):)
     
    Don't take the Zinc and Vitamin C at the same time, space those out an hour.
     
    Anyone have any advice?

    Fresh air and a ton of water seem to be helping a little bit. Dayquil too.

    Im not on my death bed or anything. Just looking to get a little more comfortable.
    I’m just getting over it. I only had bad symptoms for like a day, now I have a bunch of lingering shit but I’m sure I’m not contagious.

    My go-to pill regimen whenever I get sick is:
    1) 5000iu d3/k2
    1) 5000iu d3
    ~250mg vitamin C
    100mg zinc

    Do this in the morning and evening

    I also managed to score some hcq from my sister so for the co-hiv I added 1) 200mg hcq morning and evening and I also took an azithromycin(z-pack).

    I drank as much water as my stomach would allow, the hcq upset my stomach quite a bit. I was able to eat a few eggs with some liver a few days ago. I’ve been munching on some low/zero carb snacks also, mostly cheese
     
    Monoclonal Antibodies, Ivermectin, lots of water, lots of vitamins. If you have access to an oxygen machine or tank have one on hand just incase your O2 gets low.
     
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    Can’t go wrong with scotch…..
    Yes you can. Must be single malt :) :). I hear Islay Scotches work best, followed by Orkney distilled and then Highlands. Lowlands are not much more effective than first rate Tequila. Need to be 12-25 years old. The most effective seem to be 15-18.
     
    *** I'm not a doctor. I could easily kill you if I tried to treat you with anything other than a bandage! ***

    Couple things not mentioned.

    I was told by doc to take a large dose of D3 on day one. 20,000 iu day one, then 2,000 daily.

    An acid reducer is supposed to reduce viral load. Doc told me 80mg/day pepcid ac.

    I was advised to take mucinex per package dosage. You need plenty of water with this.

    I was given a zpac to prevent a bact infection.
    Yes, specifically Pepcid (Famotidine), Zinc 200 mg twice a day with Quercetin with food! Vitamin D, Vitamin C in between the Zinc, NAC, Ivermectin or HCQ with Zithromax. Fluids. Doggo kisses help too.
     
    Monoclonal Antibodies, Ivermectin, lots of water, lots of vitamins. If you have access to an oxygen machine or tank have one on hand just incase your O2 gets low.
    No fucking around with the O2 tank if you don't know how to use it. Even if you do, if you need to use it you need to GTFO. Just go to the ER. If you are 90 or below on O2 sat or having difficulty breathing, you are are already entering a bad neighborhood. Don't wait any longer. Nothing good can come of waiting.
     
    Mucinex if you get congestion. Drink a lot of water/Gatorade/Pedialyte/etc. Vitamins B/C/D and zinc only after you eat. Sleep outside on the porch in the hammock. Watch old movies.

    This is what worked for me. Be prepared to be real tired for a couple of weeks and don't push it.
     
    Anyone have any advice?

    Fresh air and a ton of water seem to be helping a little bit. Dayquil too.

    Im not on my death bed or anything. Just looking to get a little more comfortable.


    I haven't seen this posted here fwiw

    Dosing schedules for Ivermectin and vitamins and zinc etc. (read the attached .pdf, this doesn't copy/paste well):


    EARLY TREATMENT PROTOCOL3 (for Delta variant)
    lvermectin1 0.4–0.6 mg/kg per dose (take with or after a meal) — one dose daily, take for 5 days or until recovered
    Use upper dose if: 1) in regions with aggressive variants (e.g. Delta); 2) treatment started on or after day 5 of symptoms or in pulmonary phase; or 3) multiple comorbidities/risk factors.
    Nitazoxanide 500 mg 2 x daily for 5 days after meals. Combine with ivermectin (preferred) or substitute if ivermectin is not available.
    (Nitazoxanide is often unavailable or high-priced in the USA)
    Antiviral mouthwash Mouthwash: Gargle 3 x daily (do not swallow; must contain chlorhexidine,
    & iodine nasal spray povidone-iodine, or cetylpyridinium chloride). Nasal Spray: Use 1 % povidone-iodine commercial product as per instructions 2–3 x daily. If 1 %-product not available, must first dilute the more widely available 10 %-solution4 and apply 4–5 drops to each nostril every 4 hours. (No more than 5 days in pregnancy.)
    Dual anti-androgen 1. Dutasteride 2 mg on day 1, followed by 1 mg daily for 10 days.
    therapy If dutasteride not available, use finasteride 10 mg daily for 10 days
    2. Spironolactone 100 mg 2 x daily for ten days
    Fluvoxamine5 50 mg 2 x daily for 10 days
    In high risk patients meeting criteria 1, 2 or 3 above (see ivermectin) and if 1) nitazoxanide/ivermectin combination not used or unavailable or 2) anti-androgen therapies not used. Avoid if patient is already on an SSRI.
    Monoclonal Casirivimab/imdevimab: 600 mg each in a single subcutaneous injection
    antibody therapy6 Antibody therapy is for patients within 7 days of first symptoms and one or more risk factors as follows:
    Age > 65y; obesity; pregnancy; chronic lung, heart, or kidney disease; diabetes; immunosuppressed; developmental disability; chronic tracheostomy; or feeding tube.
    Aspirin 325 mg/day (unless contraindicated)
    Vitamin D Vitamin D3 5,000 IU daily. Preferred forms if available: Calcitriol 0.5 mcg on day 1, then 0.25 mcg daily for 7 days – or Calcifediol 0.5 mg on day 1, then 0.2 mg on days 3 + 7, then 0.2 mg weekly until recovered.
    Vitamin C 500–1,000 mg 2 x daily
    Quercetin 250 mg 2 x daily
    Zinc 100 mg/day (elemental zinc)
    Melatonin 10 mg before bedtime (causes drowsiness)
    Pulse oximeter Monitoring of oxygen saturation is recommended (for instructions see page 2)
    Please regard our Disclaimer and further information on page 2 and 3 of this document.
     

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    These people here....


    Think a prescription like this will help....

    1)
    ivermectin 3 MG Oral Tablet. Take 6 tablets by mouth once daily for five day. Start within 24 hours for symptom treatment. weight: 185 lbs DX: U07.1. #: 30 Tablet, Refills: 0.
    2)
    dexamethasone 6 MG Oral Tablet. Take 1 tablet by mouth daily. #: 5 Tablet, Refills: 0.
    3)
    azithromycin 500 MG Oral Tablet. Take 1 tablet by mouth once daily. #: 5 Tablet, Refills: 0.

    Back it up with this....

    Gargle mouthwash 2 x daily – gargle (do not swallow) antiseptic mouthwash with cetylpyridinium chloride (e.g. ScopeTM, ActTM, CrestTM) or ListerineTM with essential oils
    Vitamin D3 1,000–3,000 IU/day
    Vitamin C 500–1,000 mg 2 x daily
    Quercetin 250 mg/day
    Zinc 30–40 mg/day (elemental zinc)
    Melatonin 6 mg before bedtime (causes drowsiness)
     
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    hcq may help, but this is only true if taken before or at the onset of symptoms and it doesn't help that much of you're already very sick.

    BUT - from the NIH of all places...


    Meta-analyses based on 18 randomized controlled treatment trials of ivermectin in COVID-19 have found large, statistically significant reductions in mortality, time to clinical recovery, and time to viral clearance. Furthermore, results from numerous controlled prophylaxis trials report significantly reduced risks of contracting COVID-19 with the regular use of ivermectin. Finally, the many examples of ivermectin distribution campaigns leading to rapid population-wide decreases in morbidity and mortality indicate that an oral agent effective in all phases of COVID-19 has been identified.
     
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    10k iu vitamin C spaced out over the day.
    15k iu vitamin D3
    1 zinc pill

    Every day till a week after you feel normal and healthy

    Whenever you start feeling" off" like you're getting sick, do the same thing
     
    No fucking around with the O2 tank if you don't know how to use it. Even if you do, if you need to use it you need to GTFO. Just go to the ER. If you are 90 or below on O2 sat or having difficulty breathing, you are are already entering a bad neighborhood. Don't wait any longer. Nothing good can come of waiting.
    . listen to this around 2:15.

    Have it on tap in case.

    Of course professional medical advice/care is proper. But that is not what was asked of by the OP. And having it around would be wise, as it might take some planning to get you to an er depending on your situation. That inbetween it could offer some relief and help from worsening of the situation.
     
    never too late to try

    guy is dying
    hospital refuses to try ivermectin
    wife goes to court
    judge forces hospital to give the guy ivermectin
    he gets 13 days of ivm
    then another judge overrules the earlier ruling or doesn't extend it, and the hospital stopped giving it to him.
    wife says it was working, hospital claims it wasn't.
    don't forget they get a cash bonus from .gov (us) if he dies, but nothing if they save his life. how fucked up is that?

     
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    . listen to this around 2:15.

    Have it on tap in case.

    Of course professional medical advice/care is proper. But that is not what was asked of by the OP. And having it around would be wise, as it might take some planning to get you to an er depending on your situation. That inbetween it could offer some relief and help from worsening of the situation.

    Id hit the blond.
     
    . listen to this around 2:15.

    Have it on tap in case.

    Of course professional medical advice/care is proper. But that is not what was asked of by the OP. And having it around would be wise, as it might take some planning to get you to an er depending on your situation. That inbetween it could offer some relief and help from worsening of the situation.

    I get it, and I don't want to hijack the thread and I want to be respectful of the views on this topic. I have medical training as do others here on this site. When you begin to start supplementing oxygen it must be remembered that you are doing so because your respiratory system in some fashion is compromised, and you are using the oxygen to make up the difference. Regarding this particular disease, you don't know if you are at the worst point or if you are going to get worse from there, and 90 is at the drop-off where we re-saturate back to the high 90's if we are intubating them. Thinking logically, if you have Covid and you are at a 90 sat level you are literally where we stop what we are doing and bag a patient because they are at a level that is too low. And if you don't know where you are in the disease progression without medical assistance you could go well below that and into a critical area. You don't want this, especially if it is preventable by going to the ER. Think on that and consider the consequences of desaturating further, especially if you are not young and in shape. There is a cascade of events that happen when you start to desat and the older you get the more dangerous and potentially permanent they could be.

    Regarding the Oxygen tank: If you are at 90, what LPM are you supposed to set it at? What about 93? 85? Are you running water so that you don't dry out the nasal passages? How big is the tank and how much is in it? How long do you have with it while using the appropriate LPM? Once that's gone then what? All of this stuff is very basic, but it is also important. Oxygen is a drug.

    These cats in the video got by with it because they are young and they have enough reserve capacity in their lungs to assist. I also bet that they were both tachypneic and tachycardic most of the time during this suckfest. This combination can kill an older person or one that is already compromised in either respiratory or circular system, and quicker than you think. If you have both, you're in for a rough time. Diabetics are going to have an especially hard recovery as well. Just saying grab some O2 is something I would only do in a ditch medicine situation. But If I have a hospital nearby I'm going to sending my loved ones there at the first O2 sat of 92.

    I have been quite vocal here about my opinion of these "vaccines". However, the disease itself, while having a high survivability needs to be taken seriously for those with the conditions I mentioned above. Not saying you aren't taking it seriously, just saying that untrained use of oxygen may produce a certain amount of false security and allows the disease to progress too far. Not trying to be an ass either, although it may come off as that.
     
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    I get it, and I don't want to hijack the thread and I want to be respectful of the views on this topic. I have medical training as do others here on this site. When you begin to start supplementing oxygen it must be remembered that you are doing so because your respiratory system in some fashion is compromised, and you are using the oxygen to make up the difference. Regarding this particular disease, you don't know if you are at the worst point or if you are going to get worse from there, and 90 is at the drop-off where we re-saturate back to the high 90's if we are intubating them. Thinking logically, if you have Covid and you are at a 90 sat level you are literally where we stop what we are doing and bag a patient because they are at a level that is too low. And if you don't know where you are in the disease progression without medical assistance you could go well below that and into a critical area. You don't want this, especially if it is preventable by going to the ER. Think on that and consider the consequences of desaturating further, especially if you are not young and in shape. There is a cascade of events that happen when you start to desat and the older you get the more dangerous and potentially permanent they could be.

    Regarding the Oxygen tank: If you are at 90, what LPM are you supposed to set it at? What about 93? 85? Are you running water so that you don't dry out the nasal passages? How big is the tank and how much is in it? How long do you have with it while using the appropriate LPM? Once that's gone then what? All of this stuff is very basic, but it is also important. Oxygen is a drug.

    These cats in the video got by with it because they are young and they have enough reserve capacity in their lungs to assist. I also bet that they were both tachypneic and tachycardic most of the time during this suckfest. This combination can kill an older person or one that is already compromised in either respiratory or circular system, and quicker than you think. If you have both, you're in for a rough time. Diabetics are going to have an especially hard recovery as well. Just saying grab some O2 is something I would only do in a ditch medicine situation. But If I have a hospital nearby I'm going to sending my loved ones there at the first O2 sat of 92.

    I have been quite vocal here about my opinion of these "vaccines". However, the disease itself, while having a high survivability needs to be taken seriously for those with the conditions I mentioned above. Not saying you aren't taking it seriously, just saying that untrained use of oxygen may produce a certain amount of false security and allows the disease to progress too far. Not trying to be an ass either, although it may come off as that.
    it should not be that difficult to find a doctor like the frontline group that will telemed treat you if needed.
    you can also get prescriptions for potentially helpful drugs like ivermectin online if you are willing to pay $65 to find a provider that will write you a prescription. you just have to tell them what drug you want and why...you don't have to lie.
     
    it should not be that difficult to find a doctor like the frontline group that will telemed treat you if needed.
    you can also get prescriptions for potentially helpful drugs like ivermectin online if you are willing to pay $65 to find a provider that will write you a prescription. you just have to tell them what drug you want and why...you don't have to lie.
    I totally agree. My only point was the use of oxygen on the fly. To quote the 80’s:

    “Hey hey!…let’s be careful out there…”
     
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    it should not be that difficult to find a doctor like the frontline group that will telemed treat you if needed.
    you can also get prescriptions for potentially helpful drugs like ivermectin online if you are willing to pay $65 to find a provider that will write you a prescription. you just have to tell them what drug you want and why...you don't have to lie.
    What's truly sad, and on so many levels in this day and age, is, who can you trust? I don't necessarily believe everything on the web, but so many people that should be trusted have flip-flopped, subverted info, and flat out talked out of both sides of their mouths. For me, it's common sense. Never in our history has an obviously dangerous "vaccine" been pushed like this. The more they push, the more I'll resist. Remember, they pulled tylenol after 27 deaths. Tha clot shot is still going strong, and they want to suppress safe, effective, and cheap treatments. It's all about greed. JMHO.
     
    What's truly sad, and on so many levels in this day and age, is, who can you trust? I don't necessarily believe everything on the web, but so many people that should be trusted have flip-flopped, subverted info, and flat out talked out of both sides of their mouths. For me, it's common sense. Never in our history has an obviously dangerous "vaccine" been pushed like this. The more they push, the more I'll resist. Remember, they pulled tylenol after 27 deaths. Tha clot shot is still going strong, and they want to suppress safe, effective, and cheap treatments. It's all about greed. JMHO.
    Out of nearly 2,000 U.S. nurses surveyed on Medscape (WebMD's sister site for health care professionals) between May 25 and June 3, 77% said their trust in the CDC has decreased since the start of the pandemic, and 51% said their trust in the FDA has decreased. Similarly, out of nearly 450 U.S. doctors surveyed in the same time period, 77% said their trust in the CDC has decreased and 48% said their trust in the FDA has decreased.


    they didn't have much respect for them to begin with...

    Nina Padavil
    , works at WebMD
    Answered July 18, 2014 · Upvoted by
    Frank James Wilson
    , Retired Pulmonologist, Critical Care Physician, Public Health Physican, and Epidemiologist. Arkansas Dept. of… and
    David Chan
    , MD from UCLA, Stanford Oncology Fellowship

    WebMD actually has a brand named Medscape. It is a massive resource used by the medical community (doctors, nurses, medical students etc) for current health information. It has a user-base of around 625,000 active physicians and 4 million registered mobile users and is so trusted and reliable that users prefer it over government sites like NIH and CDC.
     
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    Orange juice was the only thing that tasted good to me. It knocked my dick in the dirt. I hope and pray you feel better soon.