Hey you realtor guys

eca7891 said:

So explain to me how you can sell, let’s say a 300k house at 6% ($18,000)
Yet will bitch when I say I’ll only pay 4.5%-5% on a 500,000+ house. ($20,000-25,000) and accuse me of trying to take money out of their pockets?

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His money. Yeah, ok. What a fucking douche.
I don’t understand the whole percentage thing. They do the same work to sell a $200k house as they do a $500k house.

If your realtor can’t explain to you why they are worth their full commission, find another realtor.

Trulia, and other on line sites.

Craigslist.

Signs around the hood.

Your own attorney for $500.

Money left over for guns and ammo and a trip to the NRA Whittington Center.

Fuck the real estate agents and their 6%

eca7891 said:

So explain to me how you can sell, let’s say a 300k house at 6% ($18,000)
Yet will bitch when I say I’ll only pay 4.5%-5% on a 500,000+ house. ($20,000-25,000) and accuse me of trying to take money out of their pockets?

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Those lawn signs and balloons don't put themselves up you know and then to sit in your hovel on Sunday afternoon and miss football for 4.5% Com'on Man .

If you did your contractors like you want to do your realtor then I doubt your house is worth your asking

Fuckin realtors are worse than lawyers. Bunch of thieving crooks.

Sell it yourself or maybe check out Redfin.

And how did you make the money to buy this house?
Cause you make it sound like you still get paid by the hour.

eca7891 said:

Do you average about 1k per hour?

I don’t.

Nice deflect though

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So do you still get a hourly figure like a sacker at a grocery store or are you paid upon completion of a project like a construction worker?

Quit bitching and sell it yourself. Realtors are optional. You got this.

American way.... Let's see how much money I can make with the least amount of effort. Then, there's enough dumb lazy fucks to just pay it, or ignore it, so that automatically makes it "the way it is".
These realtor dipshits around me almost had my inlaws under contract on a house that was going on the tax auction 3 months later, how the fuck does that work?

In current market, I'll pay 4% total. Otherwise I'm okay with the 6% for my particular realtor. She's excellent. Got got me significantly more for my last sale than I expected and I'm about to sell again and she'll do it again no doubt.

I charge 6%. 3.5% to my team & 2.5% to the buyers agent. Average sale is $1,200,000.00. We average 11+ % over ask in 4 days. We routinely have 400 people through the home in four days. Our clients are very happy with the money they net with us. On the buy side I love when a seller has a discount broker to negotiate for them. They couldn't even negotiate on their own behalf.

MJF said:

I charge 6%. 3.5% to my team & 2.5% to the buyers agent. Average sale is $1,200,000.00. We average 11+ % over ask in 4 days. We routinely have 400 people through the home in four days. Our clients are very happy with the money they net with us. On the buy side I love when a seller has a discount broker to negotiate for them. They couldn't even negotiate on their own behalf.

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You're actually doing your job.

The lady that sold us this house literally did zero work and the house was on the market for 8 months. I offered 15% less than asking, they refused. I waited a month and offered the same. After the 3rd time they took it because she hadn't found them another offer.


I used a seller's agent because I'm lazy, and the seller paid him. As he does big $ stuff all the time, he only did it as a favor. It kept me from having to deal with the seller.

Sell it your self or most will do an exclusive listing for less, you lose allot of buyer’s that way, I know real estate agents that won’t show listings done by discount brokers that only charge say 4 percent because 1/2 of the listing is not worth the hassle.

After buying and selling a few, I really see less and less use for realtors, they really add nothing to the equation and cost money, money that could be working for me and making more money.

chevy_man said:

You're actually doing your job.

The lady that sold us this house literally did zero work and the house was on the market for 8 months. I offered 15% less than asking, they refused. I waited a month and offered the same. After the 3rd time they took it because she hadn't found them another offer.


I used a seller's agent because I'm lazy, and the seller paid him. As he does big $ stuff all the time, he only did it as a favor. It kept me from having to deal with the seller.

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I couldn’t imagine being so rich that not talking to another human for a combined total of like a hour was worth flushing 5 figures.

I tried selling a truck online many years ago. Actually pulled the listing cause I started being an asshole to the tire kickers. Good luck however you do it. If you twit telegrams on space book they say it’s easy to sell. Not for me so real estate agents will always have a job.

The change is coming. DOJ is investigating Realtors for price fixing.
we’ll see.

That broker fee is split up between 4 groups. The selling and buying brokers as well as the listing and buying agents. The broker is where I believe the money is stolen. They say it's to keep the lights on and maybe that's true, but I don't see it. The realtors themselves used to do a lot of leg work, but that work went away with the dot matrix printers. Now, with the internet, most of the work can be done from their living room.

Like any profession, there will be good and bad representation of the craft. There are some really good realtors who can get you top dollar when selling and save you thousands if you're buying.

Yes, in my younger years, I was a part time real estate agent.

eca7891 said:

I’m not against the realtor in general terms but I am against them charging 2x the amount for the same amount of work. Then accusing you of taking money out of their pocket when you ask them to reduce the price.




price fixing/market manipulation is exactly what is taking place.

To me it’s no different from someone selling you a product based on your income. Make more and we will charge you more…..for the same product

Make 30k- we charge 3k
Make 300k- we charge you 30k

For the same thing.

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No it's like paying taxes. You pay the same amount (percentage wise) regardless of the price.

Cause we got boat payments to make Bitch.

Realtors = Glorfied locksmiths

I just sell all my houses through the UGPX

Carlos Danger said:

Realtors = Glorfied locksmiths

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I think locksmithing actually requires some skill, not just paying for a online class.

TurboTrout said:

I couldn’t imagine being so rich that not talking to another human for a combined total of like a hour was worth flushing 5 figures.

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Oh, man...I cannot believe someone hasn't yet...

GO BE POOR SOMEWHERE ELSE

I hate selling/buying real estate. Everyone has their hand out: Realtor (usually two), closing agent, title insurance company, attorney doing the title search, the county, surveyor, termite company, home inspector, bank, mortgage company, etc. and it takes 2 forevers and on top of that you really don't know if you paid too much or sold for too little. Meanwhile, I can sell several hundred thousand dollars worth of stock in the next 30 seconds for a $7 fee or free, know that I am getting a fair price as I can see the bid/ask and also know how many bidders/askers there are at a given price, and have my money in 2 days.

I sold my house last month. I had a contract on my house in 8 days using only Zillow. There were no fees from Zillow and I paid the buyers agent 1% commission we negotiated before he brought the buyer to my door. I believe I got a fair price based on my own research of comparative recent sales of houses like mine. If you are willing to do your own research and be available to show your home, you can do it yourself and save a lot of money. Good luck.

All three houses that I have owned, I sold them myself. I did some market research and set my price accordingly. Two of them sold within a week and the 3rd took a bit longer because the market was getting soft, but I got my asking price.

That was back in the 90s and early 2000s. Today there are a ton more tools to help you sell the house yourself.

Aftermath said:

Oh, man...I cannot believe someone hasn't yet...

GO BE POOR SOMEWHERE ELSE

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The reason I bought and sold two homes cash, the reason I’m not poor or living “debt rich” like most Americans, is because I don’t like to piss away 5 figures for the dumbass slutty girl or airhead flamboyant kid from high school to bumble their way through selling my house by acting as a needless middleman.

Some of you have a real bug up your ass about Realtors.
Not a fan of lumping an entire profession into sluts and airheads.
If you are going to try and sell FSBO you have to invest time.
You will need to price the home properly. Not easy. And possibly lost $$
You will need to have exposure, most often through the local MLS system or you will miss a large segment of buyers.
You will need to show the home in a professional manner.
You will need access to a title company to help with the legal portion of the transaction, and perhaps help writing a proper offer.
You will likely also have to navigate contingencies like home inspection, sale of buyers home and financing.
Assuming the buyer is not paying cash you will need to get the Appraiser in and hope like hell it values out in this crazy market, or you may get to start over.
I deal with many Realtors, like any profession some are A+ and some are D-

You do know the deal can be negotiated? Some will want 7% to list, others 5% and some as low as 3.5%, but they all will negotiate with you. The nicer the house, the quicker the sale, means they make their money faster.

A house that's going to sit on the market for 6 months because it's over priced or needing a ton of work isn't going for less than 7% for the most part. I guess all areas around the country may be different, so I'm only speaking for my little neck of the woods.

BTW, there's a lot more work than just listing the house and sitting back. Today's market has made real estate a quick buck type of business and those in real estate are living large but that's not always the case. There are highs and lows and this is the highest I can ever remember. The worse was 1982-2983 with interest rates over 20%.

Ric O'shay said:

Some of you have a real bug up your ass about Realtors.
Not a fan of lumping an entire profession into sluts and airheads.
If you are going to try and sell FSBO you have to invest time.
You will need to price the home properly. Not easy. And possibly lost $$
You will need to have exposure, most often through the local MLS system or you will miss a large segment of buyers.
You will need to show the home in a professional manner.
You will need access to a title company to help with the legal portion of the transaction, and perhaps help writing a proper offer.
You will likely also have to navigate contingencies like home inspection, sale of buyers home and financing.
Assuming the buyer is not paying cash you will need to get the Appraiser in and hope like hell it values out in this crazy market, or you may get to start over.
I deal with many Realtors, like any profession some are A+ and some are D-

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For any professional, that’s pretty easy stuff. And it is a investment, spending some time talking to folks, I’m a social person anyways, for 5 figures, I got all the time in the world, I’m spending the same time anyways, just I tell the realtor something, or answer a buyers question to my relator, who plays half ass man in the middle, so it’s really not that much more of my effort. Finding the comps, title, etc is easy too if you are like 99% of America and have the internet.

And maybe if the industry would police itself better my generalization wouldn’t be as accurate and hurtful.

If finding actual Comparable homes and adjusting them to produce a good estimate of Fair Market Value was "easy" I would have a lot more time to fish and shoot.

Maggot said:

Trulia, and other on line sites.

Craigslist.

Signs around the hood.

Your own attorney for $500.

Money left over for guns and ammo and a trip to the NRA Whittington Center.

Fuck the real estate agents and their 6%

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I have had my own attorney many times. Just the thought of a buyer with his own attorney keeps the rest of them on the "straight and narrow"... As mentioned, a lot less than that 6% realtor fee.... When they ask me why I have an attorney on board ... My reply is "Well, you have your own attorney, why shouldn't I have mine"... I tell a home builder the same thing. Avoiding a court case is a wise way to go.

Ric O'shay said:

If finding actual Comparable homes and adjusting them to produce a good estimate of Fair Market Value was "easy" I would have a lot more time to fish and shoot.

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Yes, I agree and retract 'pert' of what I said earlier. For some individuals a realtor is a necessary option. but for those with the time and inclination to do it, there's nothing you do that I cant.. Even paying an appraiser $1000 and an attorney $500 brings you out way ahead, expecially if youre not in a hurry.

TurboTrout said:

I couldn’t imagine being so rich that not talking to another human for a combined total of like a hour was worth flushing 5 figures.

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Not the same.

Using a buyer's agent, he got a cut from the selling agent.

He saved me many thousands, as the selling agent straight told me she wouldn't even put my first offer in writing. Called a buddy and he said "hell yeah, I'll have a contract and offer ready in 2 hours".

chevy_man said:

Not the same.

Using a buyer's agent, he got a cut from the selling agent.

He saved me many thousands, as the selling agent straight told me she wouldn't even put my first offer in writing. Called a buddy and he said "hell yeah, I'll have a contract and offer ready in 2 hours".

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As someone who’s been on both ends of that, be a ton easier if I could just talk straight to the owner/buyer

Carlos Danger said:

Realtors = Glorfied locksmiths

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Many of them are. My last realtor, who sold me my house and is now a good friend because I found out how much he likes guns, was fantastic. He took a lot of time to sell me the right house and brought guys over to help me move in. When negotiation time came he was totally on my side and wrote up a solid contract to protect me.

MarshallDodge said:

Many of them are. My last realtor, who sold me my house and is now a good friend because I found out how much he likes guns, was fantastic. He took a lot of time to sell me the right house and brought guys over to help me move in. When negotiation time came he was totally on my side and wrote up a solid contract to protect me.

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wouldn’t it be better to take contract advice from a lawyer?

Maggot said:

Yes, I agree and retract 'pert' of what I said earlier. For some individuals a realtor is a necessary option. but for those with the time and inclination to do it, there's nothing you do that I cant.. Even paying an appraiser $1000 and an attorney $500 brings you out way ahead, expecially if youre not in a hurry.

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So you can list your home on the local MLS???