Building a 1000 yd .308 is not all that difficult, but can it be done with a 22" barrel and still be accurate with any amount of velocity?
1000yd .308?
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Deltaj</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Building a 1000 yd .308 is not all that difficult, but can it be done with a 22" barrel and still be accurate with any amount of velocity? </div></div>
LL will tell you that it could be done with an 18" barrel. So there you go. 22" barrel is plenty long. It's the shooter and the projos that will get you there. Good luck.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Deltaj</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Building a 1000 yd .308 is not all that difficult, but can it be done with a 22" barrel and still be accurate with any amount of velocity? </div></div>
LL will tell you that it could be done with an 18" barrel. So there you go. 22" barrel is plenty long. It's the shooter and the projos that will get you there. Good luck.
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Yep, 22 inch tube is more then enough. I see no need for anything longer on a 308.
Yep, 22 inch tube is more then enough. I see no need for anything longer on a 308.
Re: 1000yd .308?
DesertHK,
Thats the reason I ask. I have heard the same thing but I dont know that I believe it can be done with any velocity behind it. I am ordering a custom built rifle and have almost settled on a 24" barrel. Just seein what people thought
DesertHK,
Thats the reason I ask. I have heard the same thing but I dont know that I believe it can be done with any velocity behind it. I am ordering a custom built rifle and have almost settled on a 24" barrel. Just seein what people thought
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You should get a 26" or longer ordered for a 308, because I don't think you can get it done with a 24"... you'll probably have a hard time with 26" as well, but that is a different discussion.
And for the record, I don't "tell" people anything... I have shown people it can be done, at sea level with factory ammo to 1000 yards, but I don't "tell" people anything.
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At elevation like home in Denver it is easier.
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You should get a 26" or longer ordered for a 308, because I don't think you can get it done with a 24"... you'll probably have a hard time with 26" as well, but that is a different discussion.
And for the record, I don't "tell" people anything... I have shown people it can be done, at sea level with factory ammo to 1000 yards, but I don't "tell" people anything.
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At elevation like home in Denver it is easier.
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Re: 1000yd .308?
my question would be how often are you going to be shooting to 1k? is it a dedicated 1k rifle or are you going to be doing a lot of positional work and/or moving around a bunch with it at close ranges? if it is a dedicated prone rifle, i'd probably be leaning toward a 26"+ barrel. if it is a combined use rifle, 22"-24" would probably be a decent length. if you are going to be moving around with it a bunch or working around obstacles and only shoot to 1k every now and then, a shorter barrel may be a better choice.
my question would be how often are you going to be shooting to 1k? is it a dedicated 1k rifle or are you going to be doing a lot of positional work and/or moving around a bunch with it at close ranges? if it is a dedicated prone rifle, i'd probably be leaning toward a 26"+ barrel. if it is a combined use rifle, 22"-24" would probably be a decent length. if you are going to be moving around with it a bunch or working around obstacles and only shoot to 1k every now and then, a shorter barrel may be a better choice.
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It will be a combined use rifle which for me means I will be moving with it quite a bit. I dont have many 1000 yd ranges near me so it will be an occasional 1k shooter. I have considered 22" as well. Still havnt made up my mind.
It will be a combined use rifle which for me means I will be moving with it quite a bit. I dont have many 1000 yd ranges near me so it will be an occasional 1k shooter. I have considered 22" as well. Still havnt made up my mind.
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For practical purposes, 22" is the best medium for a 308 to 1000 yards... I have more 22" 308s than any other length and can get 2700fps from factory ammo with the majority of them.
The Harbinger was originally designed with a 22" barrel back in 2004 as we found it to be the best happy medium, although we would get the question daily about 24" to 26".
For practical purposes, 22" is the best medium for a 308 to 1000 yards... I have more 22" 308s than any other length and can get 2700fps from factory ammo with the majority of them.
The Harbinger was originally designed with a 22" barrel back in 2004 as we found it to be the best happy medium, although we would get the question daily about 24" to 26".
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Lowlight,
Thanks Lowlight, nice videos too. Is there a substantial difference between the 24" and 22"(in velocity).
In addition, i am looking to have GAP build this for me. Has anyone used the Templar Action? Cant afford the Surgeon so its between a Templar and Rem Action
Lowlight,
Thanks Lowlight, nice videos too. Is there a substantial difference between the 24" and 22"(in velocity).
In addition, i am looking to have GAP build this for me. Has anyone used the Templar Action? Cant afford the Surgeon so its between a Templar and Rem Action
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Re: 1000yd .308?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Deltaj</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Building a 1000 yd .308 is not all that difficult, but can it be done with a 22" barrel and still be accurate with any amount of velocity? </div></div>
My 22" Pac-Nor gets to 1k with 175 smk's over 45.0 Varget, in 35.3 Moa(37.0 IPHY)at 90-95* F,... stone cold barrel.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Deltaj</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Building a 1000 yd .308 is not all that difficult, but can it be done with a 22" barrel and still be accurate with any amount of velocity? </div></div>
My 22" Pac-Nor gets to 1k with 175 smk's over 45.0 Varget, in 35.3 Moa(37.0 IPHY)at 90-95* F,... stone cold barrel.
Re: 1000yd .308?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Deltaj</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lowlight,
Thanks Lowlight, nice videos too. Is there a substantial difference between the 24" and 22"(in velocity).
In addition, i am looking to have GAP build this for me. Has anyone used the Templar Action? Cant afford the Surgeon so its between a Templar and Rem Action </div></div>
Deltaj I see you are in town here. If you want to grab coffee and talk rifles shoot me a PM.
I can save you probably asking lots of stupid questions I've already asked.
The difference between the 22 and 24 is pretty negligable.
Any action GAP is selling will be great, but the Surgeon just has that extra sex appeal that'll get the range weenies all in a flurry when they see it.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Deltaj</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lowlight,
Thanks Lowlight, nice videos too. Is there a substantial difference between the 24" and 22"(in velocity).
In addition, i am looking to have GAP build this for me. Has anyone used the Templar Action? Cant afford the Surgeon so its between a Templar and Rem Action </div></div>
Deltaj I see you are in town here. If you want to grab coffee and talk rifles shoot me a PM.
I can save you probably asking lots of stupid questions I've already asked.
The difference between the 22 and 24 is pretty negligable.
Any action GAP is selling will be great, but the Surgeon just has that extra sex appeal that'll get the range weenies all in a flurry when they see it.
Re: 1000yd .308?
I owned a 22" GAP 308 in an A5, it was probably the handiest and best balanced rifle I've had. I sold it, but that's another story.
Go 22" and get the Templar, you'll be happy.
I owned a 22" GAP 308 in an A5, it was probably the handiest and best balanced rifle I've had. I sold it, but that's another story.
Go 22" and get the Templar, you'll be happy.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jasonk</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I owned a 22" GAP 308 in an A5, it was probably the handiest and best balanced rifle I've had. I sold it, but that's another story.
Go 22" and get the Templar, you'll be happy. </div></div>
I can't speak for the center or top group but when I shot that bottom right group it wasn't to shabby
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jasonk</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I owned a 22" GAP 308 in an A5, it was probably the handiest and best balanced rifle I've had. I sold it, but that's another story.
Go 22" and get the Templar, you'll be happy. </div></div>
I can't speak for the center or top group but when I shot that bottom right group it wasn't to shabby
Re: 1000yd .308?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 467</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I can throw a rock a 1000 yards........... </div></div>
Prove it...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 467</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I can throw a rock a 1000 yards........... </div></div>
Prove it...
Re: 1000yd .308?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 467</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I can throw a rock a 1000 yards........... </div></div>
Yeah, but that's with a 26" arm.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 467</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I can throw a rock a 1000 yards........... </div></div>
Yeah, but that's with a 26" arm.
Re: 1000yd .308?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ChadTRG42</div><div class="ubbcode-body">LMAO! Nope, it won't work at all. </div></div>
Chadtrg42, it appears LL just kinda did it, kinda did it pretty good if I don't say so myself!
Jason
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ChadTRG42</div><div class="ubbcode-body">LMAO! Nope, it won't work at all. </div></div>
Chadtrg42, it appears LL just kinda did it, kinda did it pretty good if I don't say so myself!
Jason
