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.20" 5 Round Group At 50 (pic)

SmallBoreSnipers

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Hell yeah. As you can see I was shooting low, but I was shooting for groups so I never bothered to adjust the scope. Couldn't duplicate it. All other group were just under 1/2". Just one sweet group for me I guess. (measured by bullet centers) Sorry the pic sucks. I'm much better at shooting with my rifle than I am with this camera. If you look close you can see the caliper measurement in the corner. This was shot BR with bipod / rear bag.

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Re: .20" 5 Round Group At 50

Yup. The .17 is easy to measure even from the bench cause 1 round is .1". The ammo I used was CCI TNT hollow points. New 5 round 50 best for me! Alough I doubt I'll be able to beat it. Maybe some day.
 
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I gotta' quit hangin' round with you SB. I keep telling myself that I don't really want a .17, but you are making me think otherwise.
Nice shootin'. What scope are you using on that rig?
 
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Actually, I had a Marlin 917VS before I bought my 40X. My Annie is my second 17.

Nice group! My 17 will not group like my 22LR at short range. I get a few cloverleafs, but that is the exception, not the rule. At 100 yards, the superior ballistics of the 17 start to dominate.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Carter Mayfield</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Actually, I had a Marlin 917VS before I bought my 40X. My Annie is my second 17.

Nice group! My 17 will not group like my 22LR at short range. I get a few cloverleafs, but that is the exception, not the rule. At 100 yards, the superior ballistics of the 17 start to dominate. </div></div>

Oh sweet. Yeah I saw the Annie. I'd definitely like to get one in 17 some day. I actually notice the same thing as far as ballistics. Considering distance and group size, it does better at 100.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: maxpower220</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nice group, maybe I should try 50 instead of 100. </div></div>

I actually never shot at 50 yards before I moved down here to FL in March. It's pretty fun!

It's pretty cool too because the only thing I've done that would effect the performance of the rifle itself is an aftermarket trigger. Just goes to show that some of these low budget rifles can be real tac drivers right out of the box.
 
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Very nice shooting, and I'm still stickin' with the .22LR.

1/2" C-to-c at 50yd is very nice to gaze upon, even if all it translates to is is 1MOA. For me that's excellent, and needs no improvement.

The truth is, we're all engaged in an arm race with our centerfires. It's a game I will play in practical terms within a competitive setting, but outside that context, I'm not buying any for myself. Basically, what I shoot in practice simply doesn't 'count'. Not sure what the difference is, but I'm pretty sure it exists and it's important, and I choose to leave it at that.

At my age, I've learned that some answers are more trouble than it's worth to determine them. Or more directly, I'll keep the arms race way far away from my rimfire shooting; the centerfires are frustrating enough all by themselves.

Greg
 
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Thanks Greg. I hear ya. I have a gong that I use at both 50 and 100. Just something to fire at. Sometimes I just go to the range simply for the love of firing the rifle without caring what the targets look like.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MrLowandSlow</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You really know your stuff with the .17. I'm thinking of getting either a Marlin 917VST with the Rifle Basix trigger or a Savage 93R17.

Which one do you think is the better choice? </div></div>

Savage all the way!!!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: StanwoodSpartan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Savage all the way!!! </div></div>

I appreciate the advice! Why do you prefer the Savage?
 
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Thanks! I had the Savage 93 .22 WMR and was satisfied with it. The 93 .17 has the accutrigger. With the Marlin you will need to get the Rifle Basix trigger. The 917's are known well for their heavy trigger. But trust me, I would've put the Rifle Basix one in anyway. It rocks. I'm pretty experienced with the Marlin, so I'm a little bias that way I guess. But there have been many discussions comparing the Savage and the Marlin, and most people come to the same conclusion, which is that you really can't go wrong either way. However, I'm not really sure about the Savage, but there are a bunch of aftermarket products and services available specifically for the 917's.
 
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I prefer Savage because it's what I happen to have. I bought a used MKIIF about a decade ago, and it's provided a lot of service for both myself and many of our youth program shooters. It's not my most accurate .22LR (that's a reworked 10/22), but it just keeps on keepin' on, and I feel confident I can count on it no matter what's being served up on the menu.

I have other .22LR's (Win 77, Rem 581, Mosberg 44), and they're all fine too. But the 'Plain Jane' Savage is my goto .22LR, and also the one which I mount with the Harris Bipod and Tasco MilDot scope.

Greg
 
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If I was doing most of my shooting at 50 yards then I would stick with a .22 LR. I've looked, and Greg has taste, my choice would be the Savage MKIIF. A .22 will most likely perform better at 50 than a .17. But a .17 will perform better at 100 or more.
 
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I respect the 17's, they are performers. I looked into them at length and finally decided my world could still be complete without one in my cabinet.

Like the .22's it's seldom reloaded. A few weeks ago, I'd have said never, but apparently I was wrong about that, at least for the .22's. This put me at the mercy of the factory loaders. If it was more expensive, I'd be skewered.

For the 17's, it <span style="font-style: italic">is</span> more expensive, considerably, and the reasons seem to be based around the use of jacketed bullets.

While I have no issues with jacketed bullets per se, I think they are inappropriate to rimfire ammunition.

Like the surge in short magnum chamberings some time back, I think they are a gimmick, a fad, intended primarily as a means to generate more sales of rifles and ammunition.

Both fads have capability. But for my means and purposes, those capabilities already existed long before the fads.

That's my reasoning behind favoring the .22LR.

Greg
 
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For me it's simple. I wanted something with just a little more pop to it than a .22 LR without having to pay for centerfire ammo, even if I did have to pay a little more for the rimfire. It's just a little more fun for me. Hell we have guys down here that shoot .308's at 50 yards just because they like the feeling of firing a high power rifle lol. So I had to choose between two, the .22 WMR or the .17 HMR. I found the 17 to be more accurate for the distances I was shooting at and went that way.