I have a bunch of 223 50 gr v max bullets and can't get much of a group with the powder i've been using. I have used IMR 4895 and 3031 and the best group I have gotten is about 5/8 of an inch. Not that I am dissapionted but I have gotten better than 1/2 inch groups with 50grhp federal value pack bullets out of the same rifle so I know it can do better. Thanks Gary
Re: 223 50 grain v max best powder to use
I would give Benchmark a try.
Thanks,
Ron
I would give Benchmark a try.
Thanks,
Ron
Re: 223 50 grain v max best powder to use
Try'm around 3300fps or 3250...i load mine with varget for that pill. But use the 4895 for the 60grn's
Try'm around 3300fps or 3250...i load mine with varget for that pill. But use the 4895 for the 60grn's
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I am a Benchmark fan as well . 3250 fps and it shoots lights out in my rifle .
I am a Benchmark fan as well . 3250 fps and it shoots lights out in my rifle .
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benchmark and h335 will get you were you want to be............... Lee
benchmark and h335 will get you were you want to be............... Lee
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Another Vote for Varget.
Another Vote for Varget.
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Varget is good but there are a couple more goods ones.
50 v-max are my favorite bullet.
The 2 types of powder I do up for them are:
<span style="font-weight: bold">25.0</span> grains, <span style="font-weight: bold">H335</span>, @ 3250 fps Vel.
<span style="font-weight: bold">23.5</span> grains, <span style="font-weight: bold">Vihtv. N-133 </span>@ 3300 fps Vel.
both loads chronyed out a, 24" with 9-twist and the groups are tight.
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Varget is good but there are a couple more goods ones.
50 v-max are my favorite bullet.
The 2 types of powder I do up for them are:
<span style="font-weight: bold">25.0</span> grains, <span style="font-weight: bold">H335</span>, @ 3250 fps Vel.
<span style="font-weight: bold">23.5</span> grains, <span style="font-weight: bold">Vihtv. N-133 </span>@ 3300 fps Vel.
both loads chronyed out a, 24" with 9-twist and the groups are tight.
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Re: 223 50 grain v max best powder to use
I'm a Benchmark slut as well.
Clayman
I'm a Benchmark slut as well.
Clayman
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Varget would be my first choice and go to powder to try first.
JamieD
Varget would be my first choice and go to powder to try first.
JamieD
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VhitV-133
+1
VhitV-133
+1
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I USE H335
I USE H335
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RE 15's my choice with 52gr Amax's. .5 moa is common out to 500 from my VSSF.
okie
RE 15's my choice with 52gr Amax's. .5 moa is common out to 500 from my VSSF.
okie
Re: 223 50 grain v max best powder to use
H322 or Benchmark
Varget is too slow for the little bullets in 223, can't get enough in the case. No doubt that it will shoot small groups with Varget but you can get same small group and a bunch more velocity with faster burn rate powders.
10X, N-130, N-133, 2015BR, H322, and Benchmark are all valid choices for 50 V-max out of a 223.
H322 or Benchmark
Varget is too slow for the little bullets in 223, can't get enough in the case. No doubt that it will shoot small groups with Varget but you can get same small group and a bunch more velocity with faster burn rate powders.
10X, N-130, N-133, 2015BR, H322, and Benchmark are all valid choices for 50 V-max out of a 223.
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BenchMark
BenchMark
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Thanks alot guys I guess I sould have put in the original post that the rifle is a 1-12 twist so I think I am on track with the light weight bullets. I realy wanted a 55 gr v-max but they were sold out when I went to get them last time. I will give the benchmark or the H335 a try witch ever one the local store has in stock. Thanks Gary
Thanks alot guys I guess I sould have put in the original post that the rifle is a 1-12 twist so I think I am on track with the light weight bullets. I realy wanted a 55 gr v-max but they were sold out when I went to get them last time. I will give the benchmark or the H335 a try witch ever one the local store has in stock. Thanks Gary
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I use 27.0 grains of W748, winchester case and standard small rifle primer. 3,029 fps from a 24-inch, 1:8 twist stainless steel barrel at 84 degrees F. One ragged hole at 100 yards, not much bigger at 200.
I use 27.0 grains of W748, winchester case and standard small rifle primer. 3,029 fps from a 24-inch, 1:8 twist stainless steel barrel at 84 degrees F. One ragged hole at 100 yards, not much bigger at 200.
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I run RL10x with moly 50gr V-max's in a 1-12" factory 700 VS barrel. It produced some ragged hole groups at 100yds and very low ES. Shot well at 400yds also. 3,450 fps from a 24" tube, no pressure signs.
I run RL10x with moly 50gr V-max's in a 1-12" factory 700 VS barrel. It produced some ragged hole groups at 100yds and very low ES. Shot well at 400yds also. 3,450 fps from a 24" tube, no pressure signs.
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+1 h335
+1 h335
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I had been using 26gr of Varget with 55gr Hornandy V-Max bullets, getting 3100 fps, and the case was too full. It was causing the bullet seater die to leave a ring on the bullet. I just switched to Benchmark after reading this thread. Big improvement. I am now using 26gr of Benchmark and getting 3200 fps. The case is definitely not as full and the seater die is no longer marking the bullet. Thanks for the powder info, it certainly helped a beginner reloader.
I had been using 26gr of Varget with 55gr Hornandy V-Max bullets, getting 3100 fps, and the case was too full. It was causing the bullet seater die to leave a ring on the bullet. I just switched to Benchmark after reading this thread. Big improvement. I am now using 26gr of Benchmark and getting 3200 fps. The case is definitely not as full and the seater die is no longer marking the bullet. Thanks for the powder info, it certainly helped a beginner reloader.
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I load 21.8 gr. 4198 IMR or H - whatever is available.
I always full length size, and load to book length as we shoot this load in at least 6 different rifles. (family bulk load)
It shoots outstanding in 3 of the rifles, and more than accepable in the rest.
I found that the IMR & Winchester primers gave the highest velocity, and the IMR and Fed primers gave the lowest SD.
We load enough of these that sometimes we just use what powder and primers we can get, even the worst combination makes minute of prairie dog! The 50 grain v-max is a great pill for .223!
I have been thinking of trying the H335, I think ya'll have just convinced me.
I load 21.8 gr. 4198 IMR or H - whatever is available.
I always full length size, and load to book length as we shoot this load in at least 6 different rifles. (family bulk load)
It shoots outstanding in 3 of the rifles, and more than accepable in the rest.
I found that the IMR & Winchester primers gave the highest velocity, and the IMR and Fed primers gave the lowest SD.
We load enough of these that sometimes we just use what powder and primers we can get, even the worst combination makes minute of prairie dog! The 50 grain v-max is a great pill for .223!
I have been thinking of trying the H335, I think ya'll have just convinced me.
seeing as this thread is 16 years old would anyone like to update any of the data. I just got into reloading and have always shot Fiocchi 50gr vmax. They have always shot well so I want to stick with them. Pending weather my velocity ranges from 3130 to 3250 off my magneto speed with factory ammo. I would love to hear any updated data that is available.
An oldie but a goodie. Both my favorite loads are listed from 2008. 26gr of Benchmark and 27gr of 748. Some things never go out of style.
I'm using N133 with the 50 gr V-max.
I always liked the 55 and 60gr. vmax better and I've gotten better accuracy with both but I'm sure it's barrel dependent. Pretty much stick to H335 for everything in the lighter 223 category.
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