What's a good powder for reloading 223 for my AR-15 20" barrel 1/7 twist? So far I've been shooting 55's and they have really liked them. How would R17 work in a 223 or H4895?
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Re: 223 Powder
cant help you there, i use winchester 748, and i like it..
cant help you there, i use winchester 748, and i like it..
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I use varget. Works very well.
I use varget. Works very well.
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Varget also. Can't find a reason to change.
Varget also. Can't find a reason to change.
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OK, I haven't purchased the R17 yet (I was planning to use that for my 30-06) but I will just buy the Varget and use that for both.
OK, I haven't purchased the R17 yet (I was planning to use that for my 30-06) but I will just buy the Varget and use that for both.
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RL17 might be a bit slow for application in 223/5.56. Varget is very good with heavier bullets, but you may not reach velocity range you'd prefer before running out of case capacity. RL15 commonly yields very good accuracy and velocity. I'm using TAC very successfully with 75/77gr Hornady/Sierra at around 2650fps and excellent accuracy. I've seen quite different info for both H4895 and IMR4895, so best consult your loading manuals. The .223/5.56 section at top of section is an excellent resource. H335/WW748/H332/10X come up in some conversations with lighter bullets, as well. Try this reference, as well:
http://www.whiteoakprecision.com/info-reloading.htm
Apologize for most of this being related to heavier bullets, but 1/7 twist comes alive with heavier bullets and will reach out a bit more effectively at longer ranges. Huge volume of info out there on 223/5.56, at the touch of 'search' button.
RL17 might be a bit slow for application in 223/5.56. Varget is very good with heavier bullets, but you may not reach velocity range you'd prefer before running out of case capacity. RL15 commonly yields very good accuracy and velocity. I'm using TAC very successfully with 75/77gr Hornady/Sierra at around 2650fps and excellent accuracy. I've seen quite different info for both H4895 and IMR4895, so best consult your loading manuals. The .223/5.56 section at top of section is an excellent resource. H335/WW748/H332/10X come up in some conversations with lighter bullets, as well. Try this reference, as well:
http://www.whiteoakprecision.com/info-reloading.htm
Apologize for most of this being related to heavier bullets, but 1/7 twist comes alive with heavier bullets and will reach out a bit more effectively at longer ranges. Huge volume of info out there on 223/5.56, at the touch of 'search' button.
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What bullet are you using for the 30-06? You might do better with a slower powder. My .02.
What bullet are you using for the 30-06? You might do better with a slower powder. My .02.
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Benchmark for the 62 grain and under, Varget for 62 and over has worked great
for me. Not even interested in trying other powders.
Benchmark for the 62 grain and under, Varget for 62 and over has worked great
for me. Not even interested in trying other powders.
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WW 748
WW 748
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208 Amax in the 30-06
208 Amax in the 30-06
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I would consider H-4350 for the 30-06 load. Re-19 might work well also. I don't think varget would work very well with the long body of the 06. Awesome for 223 in the AR. Benchmark works well for me in my bolt 223 gun. Personally never tried it in a gas gun. So I couldn't say one way or another. Hodgon web site has some really great data. They make or own Hodgon,IMR,also Winchester powder I believe.
I would consider H-4350 for the 30-06 load. Re-19 might work well also. I don't think varget would work very well with the long body of the 06. Awesome for 223 in the AR. Benchmark works well for me in my bolt 223 gun. Personally never tried it in a gas gun. So I couldn't say one way or another. Hodgon web site has some really great data. They make or own Hodgon,IMR,also Winchester powder I believe.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Smith44699</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would consider H-4350 for the 30-06 load. Re-19 might work well also. I don't think varget would work very well with the long body of the 06. Awesome for 223 in the AR. Benchmark works well for me in my bolt 223 gun. Personally never tried it in a gas gun. So I couldn't say one way or another. Hodgon web site has some really great data. They make or own Hodgon,IMR,also Winchester powder I believe. </div></div>
I think I'm going to try the Varget in the .223. I appreciate everybody's input.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Smith44699</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would consider H-4350 for the 30-06 load. Re-19 might work well also. I don't think varget would work very well with the long body of the 06. Awesome for 223 in the AR. Benchmark works well for me in my bolt 223 gun. Personally never tried it in a gas gun. So I couldn't say one way or another. Hodgon web site has some really great data. They make or own Hodgon,IMR,also Winchester powder I believe. </div></div>
I think I'm going to try the Varget in the .223. I appreciate everybody's input.
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BL-C2 for 55, Win 748 for 62-69 grainers
BL-C2 for 55, Win 748 for 62-69 grainers
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RL15 works great for me
RL15 works great for me
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I have had great luck with Varget and 75 bthp's in my 20" 8 twist Armalite.
I have had great luck with Varget and 75 bthp's in my 20" 8 twist Armalite.
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I also made the switch to benchmark a short while back,alot cleaner than most,and good accuracy to boot.
I also made the switch to benchmark a short while back,alot cleaner than most,and good accuracy to boot.
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IMR 8208XBR in 223. Works great..
IMR 8208XBR in 223. Works great..
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I use 748 and AA2230 depending on the bullet weight.
I use 748 and AA2230 depending on the bullet weight.
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I use BL-C(2) for bullets in the 55 gr. range & RL-15 for those of 77 gr.
I use BL-C(2) for bullets in the 55 gr. range & RL-15 for those of 77 gr.
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Another +1 for Varget
Another +1 for Varget
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I shoot the heavies in my AR's (75-77). Varget and TAC work great.
I shoot the heavies in my AR's (75-77). Varget and TAC work great.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: memyselfi</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> BL-C2 for 55, Win 748 for 62-69 grainers </div></div>
Same powders here for those weights. I also use Accurate 2230 for accuracy work and light varmint loads like the varmint grenade. It's my understanding that the Lake City 62 gr. Military load is using 2230.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: memyselfi</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> BL-C2 for 55, Win 748 for 62-69 grainers </div></div>
Same powders here for those weights. I also use Accurate 2230 for accuracy work and light varmint loads like the varmint grenade. It's my understanding that the Lake City 62 gr. Military load is using 2230.
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Can not go wrong with Varget. Winchester 748 is also a great 223 powder.
Can not go wrong with Varget. Winchester 748 is also a great 223 powder.
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I load all of my .223 on a progressive press so, it's hard to beat Ramshot TAC for my application.
I load all of my .223 on a progressive press so, it's hard to beat Ramshot TAC for my application.
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For blaster 55gr M193 clone, I use surplus W844. Hi-Tech and Pat both have it pretty cheap, like $80-100 per 8lb jug. Look at the military load data - it specifies 844 for both 55gr M193 and 62gr M855. I get about 1.5MOA accuracy with this combination and it runs great in the M16 also. My light load is 26.0gr and my hot mil-spec load is 28.5 - straight from the manual. The 26.0 runs in everything but the Shrike - which requires the hot 28.5 load to strip rounds from the belt (there's a lot going on with a belt fed and it needs lots of power).
For accuracy, 52gr SMK + AA2015 is hard to beat. For 69 and 77gr SMK, Varget is the ticket (45.5 and 44.0gr respectively), but for progressive presses AA2520 and W748 are very good.
I generally use LC brass and CCI Mil primers for blaster and mixed comercial brass and REM BR or Fed match primers for the match loads.
For blaster 55gr M193 clone, I use surplus W844. Hi-Tech and Pat both have it pretty cheap, like $80-100 per 8lb jug. Look at the military load data - it specifies 844 for both 55gr M193 and 62gr M855. I get about 1.5MOA accuracy with this combination and it runs great in the M16 also. My light load is 26.0gr and my hot mil-spec load is 28.5 - straight from the manual. The 26.0 runs in everything but the Shrike - which requires the hot 28.5 load to strip rounds from the belt (there's a lot going on with a belt fed and it needs lots of power).
For accuracy, 52gr SMK + AA2015 is hard to beat. For 69 and 77gr SMK, Varget is the ticket (45.5 and 44.0gr respectively), but for progressive presses AA2520 and W748 are very good.
I generally use LC brass and CCI Mil primers for blaster and mixed comercial brass and REM BR or Fed match primers for the match loads.
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Varget but just got some IMR 8208XBR to try also. Temps fluctuate here in Ohio from over 100 to below 0, so I need a temp stable powder. Both these do very well for that need.
BTW.. I use Varget for .308 also.. I like to keep my powders to a min. Win 231 for (9mm,40, 45ACP). Varget/IMR 8208XBR for .223/.308/6.5Grendel
Varget but just got some IMR 8208XBR to try also. Temps fluctuate here in Ohio from over 100 to below 0, so I need a temp stable powder. Both these do very well for that need.
BTW.. I use Varget for .308 also.. I like to keep my powders to a min. Win 231 for (9mm,40, 45ACP). Varget/IMR 8208XBR for .223/.308/6.5Grendel
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Spanky8601</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Can not go wrong with Varget. Winchester 748 is also a great 223 powder. </div></div>
Makes a big flash!
I thought the 748 was a rather dirty powder, ended up doing a lot more cleaning with 748 vs Varget...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Spanky8601</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Can not go wrong with Varget. Winchester 748 is also a great 223 powder. </div></div>
Makes a big flash!
I thought the 748 was a rather dirty powder, ended up doing a lot more cleaning with 748 vs Varget...
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+1 on varget, benchmark, 8208xbr, and H4895. I have had great results with all of them. I run all of them in .223, .22-250, and .308 (except varget my 308 hates it for what ever reason). They are all extreme powders and will not suffer due to temperature changes as much as BLC2, 3031, or 4064.
+1 on varget, benchmark, 8208xbr, and H4895. I have had great results with all of them. I run all of them in .223, .22-250, and .308 (except varget my 308 hates it for what ever reason). They are all extreme powders and will not suffer due to temperature changes as much as BLC2, 3031, or 4064.
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I think a 69gr bullet would be a better choice. There's s half dozen powders that will all yield near the same results.
IMR4895
Win 748
RL15
VVN140 favorite
I've had excellent results with all of these.
I think a 69gr bullet would be a better choice. There's s half dozen powders that will all yield near the same results.
IMR4895
Win 748
RL15
VVN140 favorite
I've had excellent results with all of these.
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For my AR, I am a big fan of H335, meters really well, so you can load a lot of rounds fast, and I get good results with my 55 grain soft points.
For my AR, I am a big fan of H335, meters really well, so you can load a lot of rounds fast, and I get good results with my 55 grain soft points.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jeremybj</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For my AR, I am a big fan of H335, meters really well, so you can load a lot of rounds fast, and I get good results with my 55 grain soft points. </div></div>
+1 on the H335
Works <span style="font-style: italic">really</span> well in my .223 bolt gun as well.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jeremybj</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For my AR, I am a big fan of H335, meters really well, so you can load a lot of rounds fast, and I get good results with my 55 grain soft points. </div></div>
+1 on the H335
Works <span style="font-style: italic">really</span> well in my .223 bolt gun as well.
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h335 and ramshot tac. both meter really well.
h335 and ramshot tac. both meter really well.
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chock another one up for H335. Seems to do a good job with metering on our 650XL. Although I might soon start looking for something that could do double duty in 308
chock another one up for H335. Seems to do a good job with metering on our 650XL. Although I might soon start looking for something that could do double duty in 308
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