260 owners, what accuracy w stock RP brass?

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I am aware of formed brass results, etc. but looking for how well does YOUR rifle shoot with <span style="font-weight: bold">unsorted, unturned 260 Remington brass</span>? Anyone want to give case life for it as well? Feel free to list any details.

Thanks.
 
Re: 260 owners, what accuracy w stock RP brass?

All I do to my remington brass is FL size it and trim it. My rifle shoots consitents .4's and occasional .3's when I do my part right. I haven't measured groups beyond 600 yds yet though so they might be opening up.

42.9 H4350
Win LR primer
Rem Brass
140 AMAX
27" Shilen Select Match SS barrel

Keith
 
Re: 260 owners, what accuracy w stock RP brass?

best groups when load testing was .2x with new rem brass ... constantly in the .35-.2 range

.02 neck tension,

Redding Type S FL Size 2x: once with button to size any necks out of round and once without to assure propper neck tension with selected bushing...

buddy is on 5th firing of rem brass, primers are loose but still shoots

BR2
139 scenars
47gn 4831sc
.015 off the lands

group the other day, cold bore and two follow ups ... 100yd

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Re: 260 owners, what accuracy w stock RP brass?

My results have been mostly .5-.6 groups give or take a few, and only FL sizing and straight up trimming.

42.5 RL15
cci br primers
120gr Nosler Balistic tip

Iam sure it "could" get better but, that is pretty respectable for a straight up factory tube on a hunting rig!
 
Re: 260 owners, what accuracy w stock RP brass?

Sounds like give/take 1/2MOA is achievable in a good rifle, w factory brass 'as is' or perhaps w/just cleaning pockets.

Debating on a 260 or 47L for a custom.....brass expense, exclusivity, and die costs are the cons on the 47 for me......

Been really curious on how a 260 shoots in a good custom, looks like it might meet my needs.

Thanks all.
 
Re: 260 owners, what accuracy w stock RP brass?

I shot Nosler Brass at first......good stuff. I switched to RP and turned my necks. It gave me better accuracy and faster velocity. I have some 243 Lapua Brass already necked up and turned just waiting. 7/08 brass is also an option.
 
Re: 260 owners, what accuracy w stock RP brass?

1K no problem w/ unturned Remmy brass. I am pumping 43 grains of IMR4350 & I am getting about 5-7 reloads out of the brass.

I have messed w/ neck turning, sizing up Lapua brass & Nosler brass. At the end of the day. I just keep pumping in the Ole Remmy brass & shooting the heck out of it. I am sure neck turning does add some accuracy; however, I have not noticed enough of a difference to warrant the extra effort. I would rather go out shooting that adding another step to the reloading process if at all possible.
 
Re: 260 owners, what accuracy w stock RP brass?

Nk turning is a one time only process but, I understand it's not for everyone. Nk tunring eliminated my unexplained fliers and gave me uniform neck tension with RP brass. I never tunred the nosler brass and it was stellar from day one.

2,920fps with 139 Scenars and 2,940 with 130 Bergers. Both with 44.5 grains of H4350 and CCIBR2's, RP 260 or 7-08 brass.
 
Re: 260 owners, what accuracy w stock RP brass?

I put 3400 rounds through mine and it was amazingly accurate. 90% of my shooting is beyond 600 yards and the .260 shined. I do absolutely no prep and I don't weight sort. There are a few members here that have seen it shoot many times and they'll tell you it was flat amazing.

That barrel has since been removed (still shooting great by the way) and a 47 was installed. It gives up a little velocity but the accuracy is great. Keep in mind the lapua brass may last double what the RP brass will, if they are treated right.

 
Re: 260 owners, what accuracy w stock RP brass?

Well one of the initial questions was about case life. I think that is something that you will have to experiment with yourself... After all, things like how hot you run your load, and the size of your specific chamber are all going to influence things.
 
Re: 260 owners, what accuracy w stock RP brass?

TBass, I am w/you. I have yet to turn a case, yet shot a sub 1/2" group at 330 yds w/a 6BR. Not the norm mind you, but it showed what it can do. The 47 brass life might and bbl life, and powder savings will close the gap vs 260. For my shooting, odds are the 123 and 130s will get used the most and the 47 keeps nagging at me. Out the box brass quality is proven, but the cost and future availability of it concerns me.

Thanks much guys, if I go 260 I can feel good going into the build.

Decisions.....I am sure either will please.
 
Re: 260 owners, what accuracy w stock RP brass?

I use R-P .260 and necked Win .243 and 7-08 brass. Mostly, all I do is ream flash holes, once the cases have been F/L sized, no other prep. I buy 100 cases per year, and shoot them up to 6 or 7 times. Typically, accuracy is even across the board, and the R-P brass has a tendency to open up primer pockets a bit eaiser

My loads run a little less than 1gr under max, emerge at about 2850fps, and I could probably get by just as nicely at a lower node.

I F/L resize each time, and necks tend to soot a bit by the time the pockets loosen, which indicates to me that the necks are hardening significantly by then.

I think that case life will depend on primer pocket expansion, which depends in turn on charge level.

I think the .260 will please you. I also think it shines with the longer barrels, mine is 28". Please note that I use a SAAMI spec chamber.

The key advantage with the longer barrel is that it allows you the possibility of reaching your velocity goal at a lower node, perhaps extending brass and throat life. The 140's really only need to go about 2650-2700fps for adequate velocity ontarget at 1Kyd.

I think that drift advantages from higher velocities are deceptive. Drift is what it is. If you can call the wind right, you can accomodate it, whatever it is. Velocity may be overrated.

Greg
 
Re: 260 owners, what accuracy w stock RP brass?

Greg, my bbl is made - Bartlein 8t fluted 700 varmint contour, ready to be finished out at 23", I wanted a portable rifle to hunt as well and clear box stand windows as needed. What do you think of the 260 at 23"

My first 6.5-308 done in the mid 90s shot well at 23", never tried a longer tube. Not a comp shooter.
 
Re: 260 owners, what accuracy w stock RP brass?

I think the .260 will be fine at 23". I used 139's in a 24" to reach 1Km (1123yd), but the load was hotter'n I was eventually comfortable with (40-41gr V-V N550). You should be Good To Go at 23". If you're planning on 139-140gr bullets, don't go with a twist slower than 1:8" at that length.

The HDY 129 and 140gr SST's are excellent hunting bullets out of the .260, as are the 120 Ballistic tips, 140 Partitions, and 95gr V-Max. For match I prefer 142SMK and or 140 A-Max, and find they like the same loads. H-4350 is suitible for all these bullets in 43/44gr (140's) to 47gr (95's) charges.

My barrel's a 28" 1:8" L-W Savage Varmint countour.

Greg
 
Re: 260 owners, what accuracy w stock RP brass?

i got remmy brass i have used for years....and run it till i see daylight through the necks.

most recently changed to 140 matchkings and changed seating depth on my short chambered barrel.....with old tired beat to fuck brass i now can stack the holes....
 
Re: 260 owners, what accuracy w stock RP brass?

I'm on about 4-5 loadings with stock Rem brass. I tumble, FL size with a Redding type S bushing (.289), inside chamfer, prime and load the brass. It is very consistant and I've shot a 1 3/8" group at 600 yards with this. And I don't clean primer pockets until after about 2-3 firings (until there's too much crap in there). My personal ammo is put together a little more sloppy than my customers' ammo, and it shoots lights out. The stock Rem brass will do you fine.

Also, I will say- the 6.5x47L impressed the heck out of me. It gave much lower ES numbers (2 fps ES) than my 260 (13 ES), and shot very well. There might be something with the 30 degree shoulder and small rifle primer. The Lapua brass is very good, but I think all this comes with the added cost. Either caliber would suit you fine in a 23" barrel. If you could get 10+ loads on the Lapua, then the cost will reduce to the Rem brass.
 
Re: 260 owners, what accuracy w stock RP brass?

Greg, thanks for the post, barrel is 'in hand' and 8" twist as I prefer any/all 6.5s, so I am g-t-g. Have ALOT of 130 ABs on hand and waxed a deer around 250 paces w/a 6.5x55 in '08, deadly and accurate, but I want to try Berger 130s for paper and deer, and I have some 123s.

I will update in the future as to my build and results.
 
Re: 260 owners, what accuracy w stock RP brass?

Isn't there a post by Lowlight here where he is pushing the short barrel envelope with the .260 load? I think the last barrel he was shooting the .260 with was 20", and he was planning on going to 18.5 like his .308-to-1K rifle...
 
Re: 260 owners, what accuracy w stock RP brass?

I order most of my brass as once fired from Blue Star. I can generally get groups that measure around 1 in at the 200 yd line, so .5 MOA. I have a box of Nosler that I have not even shot since the RP is getting the job done. All I do on my reloads is neck size, trim and chamfer the case mouth and then reload. They have been consistent. I am on about my 4th reload with the current batch.
 
Re: 260 owners, what accuracy w stock RP brass?

I use Remmy brass as well. It shot in the .5 moa with ease in a .260 Randy @ R@D built me a couple years ago. Brass life was like Greg said - I shoot mine 6-8 times then on to a new batch.

I do all the prep work though including turning the necks down onto the shoulder. I never did find or see any of the dreaded Doughnuts - but I'm told it can be an issue. Building another .260 as we speak and I'll use Remmy brass for it as well.

Good Luck,
JamieD
Wolf Precision
All Hogs Go to Heaven
 
Re: 260 owners, what accuracy w stock RP brass?

My understanding is that doughnuts don't appear unless you are necking Up? Is this not correct? When you neck up a .243 part of the shoulder becomes part of the neck, am I right?
 
Re: 260 owners, what accuracy w stock RP brass?

stacking them in my GAP ( Matthews built ) .260 with only neck sizing wolf primers 139 scenars and 42 grains of RL17. I have an unopened box of nosler custom with no reason to break it out. I have several boxes of Black Hills Gold GAP 260 loaded with the 139 scenar also that hammers. I shot a 10 shot .337 with that ammo and it is in rp brass. I cant justify using anything else right now.


 
Re: 260 owners, what accuracy w stock RP brass?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SoCalPete</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Isn't there a post by Lowlight here where he is pushing the short barrel envelope with the .260 load? I think the last barrel he was shooting the .260 with was 20", and he was planning on going to 18.5 like his .308-to-1K rifle... </div></div>
Yes. I shot the 18.5" 260 yesterday with all the test loads. I'll post pics and results this weekend. It shot good and had some great loads with low ES.