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300 WIN MAG 208 gr AMAX H1000

JB02

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  • Sep 14, 2011
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    Hi there.

    Recently purchased a 300 WIN MAG, and decided to start initial loads with Hornady 208 gr AMAX bullets and H1000 powder, as used by http://www.teamblaster.net/

    Would like to know if anyone has some good load data or development tips for this type of bullet and powder ... 208 gr info seems pretty scarce on the web.

    I recently ordered a OAL gauge so I can measure length using the ogive.

    Appreciate any input.
     
    Re: 300 WIN MAG 208 gr AMAX H1000

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rotortuner</div><div class="ubbcode-body">lots of loads here:
    http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthre...106#Post2282106
    </div></div>

    Great place to start! Thanks
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    Re: 300 WIN MAG 208 gr AMAX H1000

    it has a surgeon XL action and a 26" 1:10 twist bartlein barrel (5R).

    Having it shipped soon. Rob01 from www.teamblaster.net uses this type of powder and bullet in his 300 WM ... I figure it's a good starting point.
     
    Re: 300 WIN MAG 208 gr AMAX H1000

    Im using 72.8 Grs of RE22 and have average velocities of 2900-2950 with no pressure signs. thats with a 26 inch 10 twist lilja.
     
    Re: 300 WIN MAG 208 gr AMAX H1000

    I have good results with 71.7 g of H1000 using hornady brass. only about 2750, but great brass life and accuracy under .5. I found another node in the 74g range, but it was really rattling my teeth, and wasn't any more accurate. Unfortunately, the weapon is getting rebarreled (after 1800 rounds), so I get to start over when I get it back.
     
    Re: 300 WIN MAG 208 gr AMAX H1000

    Another good powder for the 208 is VV N165. I'm getting 2850fps out of a 24" Rem with great accuracy and consistency. Admittedly the H1000 seems to be one of the most popular choices for this load but I use all mine for my .338 instead.
     
    Re: 300 WIN MAG 208 gr AMAX H1000

    Had great luck with 208 and H1000 just pay attention as you start to get close to book max you will definetly start having some compressed loads or atleast a good bit of powder crunch.
     
    Re: 300 WIN MAG 208 gr AMAX H1000

    I too am achieving 2917 fps. That's with 26" 1:10 700 police. 72.7 r22. 210 bergers. Wlrm primers. I imagine the GAP will push em a little faster. I have a .308 Gap Crusader with 24" Bartlein 5r mil spec that is pushing 175 smk s 2760 with no op at all. Not able to get that out of any other of my .308's with same barell length.
     
    Re: 300 WIN MAG 208 gr AMAX H1000

    You will almost certainly achieve higher velocity with this weapon. Are you dead set on h1000? R22 has given me higher miller stability and greater velocity. Ex . 76.5 h1000, Berger 210 vld, wlrm primer, 3.600"oal= Mean 2882. 10 shots. 3/4 Moa at 100 yds. With some op signs. R22 72.7 everything same = 2917 fps mean. 10 shots. 2 shot intervals. Averaged right at -1/2 moa. Best group was .331". Miller stability was 2.11 w/ a bc of .641 which is .10 higher than advertised. No op. Gun was 700 police with 26" & 1-10 twist. Hope this helps
     
    Re: 300 WIN MAG 208 gr AMAX H1000

    My go to load is 2.894 ogive 76.8 h1000 215m primers Hornaday brass. Out of a 700p .300 win mag.
     
    Re: 300 WIN MAG 208 gr AMAX H1000

    Between 74 and about 78grns of H1000 is where you should find a good load with the 208 AMAX.
     
    Re: 300 WIN MAG 208 gr AMAX H1000

    I got WAY too much compression when I tried H1000. With H4831SC, 71.5g, Im getting an average velocity of 2802fps, with an extreme spread of 50 for 5 shots. Standard deviation would not even register. Gun shoots under half MOA. Easily getting first shot hits on 6x6 steel at 600 meters.

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    By jigstick at 2011-11-13
     
    Re: 300 WIN MAG 208 gr AMAX H1000

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bsniping</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Had great luck with 208 and H1000 just pay attention as you start to get close to book max you will definetly start having some compressed loads or atleast a good bit of powder crunch. </div></div>

    Thanks for the tip on this
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    Re: 300 WIN MAG 208 gr AMAX H1000

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rob01</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Between 74 and about 78grns of H1000 is where you should find a good load with the 208 AMAX. </div></div>

    Thanks for the tip on this ... this will be my starting point.
     
    Re: 300 WIN MAG 208 gr AMAX H1000

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Aimsmall55</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You will almost certainly achieve higher velocity with this weapon. Are you dead set on h1000? R22 has given me higher miller stability and greater velocity. Ex . 76.5 h1000, Berger 210 vld, wlrm primer, 3.600"oal= Mean 2882. 10 shots. 3/4 Moa at 100 yds. With some op signs. R22 72.7 everything same = 2917 fps mean. 10 shots. 2 shot intervals. Averaged right at -1/2 moa. Best group was .331". Miller stability was 2.11 w/ a bc of .641 which is .10 higher than advertised. No op. Gun was 700 police with 26" & 1-10 twist. Hope this helps </div></div>

    This is impressive. Have two pounds of H1000 ... need to burn through some of that first, but your R22 results seem quite promising indeed. Another thing for sure is that I need to get a chronograph as soon as my wallet recovers from buying this rifle!
     
    Re: 300 WIN MAG 208 gr AMAX H1000

    I've read all the comments ... awesome! Thank you all for pointing me in the right direction here. Have a lot of work ahead of me, and glad this WIN MAG has a muzzle break lol!
     
    Re: 300 WIN MAG 208 gr AMAX H1000

    My accuracy sweet spot is 75-gr of H1000 with the 208-gr Amax, COAL is 3.60" These are running 2830-fps out of my Schneider 27" barrel.

    I was eye-balling that rifle you just commited to, but the funds were not there for me to get it. Nice grab LT JGB!
     
    Re: 300 WIN MAG 208 gr AMAX H1000

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rob01</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Between 74 and about 78grns of H1000 is where you should find a good load with the 208 AMAX. </div></div>
    This is good advice from Rob as always .
    The 208 amax is simply an awesome projectile, don't worry too much about velocity instead focus on finding your accuracy node with a solid ladder test! Once you find your rifles node load some up and stretch it out I think you'll be impressed with the amax!
    Goodluck. For what it's worth anything above 77 grains gave me pressure signs in my gun. Be safe start low and work up a ladder test.
    My load is 76.8 gr H1000 3.608 OAL 2988 fps avg.
     
    Re: 300 WIN MAG 208 gr AMAX H1000

    I guess I'm the 3rd guy on this thread that uses 76.8gr H1000 with the 208 amax. 26" lilja on a 5r action.
     
    Re: 300 WIN MAG 208 gr AMAX H1000

    I'd start at about 72gr and go up from there. The sweet spot on mine is at 73.5 and, I could find a higher accuracy node but, I don't like to buy brass that often.

    The 208 amax tends to like to be close to the lands for most folks but YMMV. I'm also shooting a 1:10 twist 26" barrel.

    I load
    208gr amax at about 3.61 ( .005 off the lands )
    73.5gr H1000
    WCC brass ( I anneal it every second firing )
     
    Re: 300 WIN MAG 208 gr AMAX H1000

    76.8 grains H-1000 208 AMAX, winchester brass, winchester mag primers, 3.51" COAL (magazine length).

    Savage 111 Long Range Hunter (stock). Shooting 2" at 300 yards. I found the H-1000 to be pretty forgiving on "exact powder charge" and get consistent groups from 76.7 to 76.9 grains.

    I have not had the opportunity to stretch it out to 600 yards yet, but soon as the weather gets a little nicer. Too muddy where I like to shoot for distance and DOPE.
     
    Re: 300 WIN MAG 208 gr AMAX H1000

    I'm tempted to start with 76.8 and just see how that works since lots seem to have luck with that charge weight.

    Anyway, here is the OCW sequence I plan on using:

    Target # 1 2 3 4 5 6
    Charge (gr) 72.5 74.0 75.5 77.0 77.5 78.1

    See how this works once I get some time to load the rounds.
     
    Re: 300 WIN MAG 208 gr AMAX H1000

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LT JGB</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm tempted to start with 76.8 and just see how that works since lots seem to have luck with that charge weight.

    Anyway, here is the OCW sequence I plan on using:

    Target # 1 2 3 4 5 6
    Charge (gr) 72.5 74.0 75.5 77.0 77.5 78.1

    See how this works once I get some time to load the rounds.</div></div>

    BTW, I'm not going to mess with seating depth until I get the charge weight sorted.
     
    Re: 300 WIN MAG 208 gr AMAX H1000

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LT JGB</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm tempted to start with 76.8 and just see how that works since lots seem to have luck with that charge weight.

    Anyway, here is the OCW sequence I plan on using:

    Target # 1 2 3 4 5 6
    Charge (gr) 72.5 74.0 75.5 77.0 77.5 78.1

    See how this works once I get some time to load the rounds.</div></div>

    77.0 worked best and sat in the middle of two other decent loads. Pretty close to 76.8 ... go figure.
     
    Re: 300 WIN MAG 208 gr AMAX H1000

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: X-fan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So what is you best bullet depth with H-1000 and the 208?
    Do you find it matter much? </div></div>

    Thats a matter for each individual gun I'd say. But the Amax does like to be close to the lands as another poster already said. Play with a few different seating depths and shoot for groups see what works best for you.
     
    Re: 300 WIN MAG 208 gr AMAX H1000

    The OCW was done at 0.020" from the lands. I'll play with seat depth a the next time I load these rounds.

    The instructions on my OAL gauge said the ogive should be w/in 0.02-0.04" from the lands. What should I expect as I seat the bullet a bit deeper? What are good increments to use between 0.02 and 0.04"?

    Thanks for the help.
     
    Re: 300 WIN MAG 208 gr AMAX H1000

    I also use a Bartlien 26" bbl w/ 1-10 Twist.

    My 208gr. A-MAX Load is:
    71.5gr. RL-22
    Winchester Brass
    Fed. GMM215M Primer
    3.598" OAL
    .010" off lands

    I dont have all my data in front of me or i could give you some more data. I have some H-1000 loaded up for testing but just have not got around to it seeing how well the RL-22 load works for me.
     
    Re: 300 WIN MAG 208 gr AMAX H1000

    The first load in my OCW sequence was 72gr ... it shot well but I was looking for something a bit closer to the max load to push up the velocity a bit. 77 was about as good.

    I don't know how RL 22 compares to H1000. Something to try out later.
     
    Re: 300 WIN MAG 208 gr AMAX H1000

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LT JGB</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LT JGB</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm tempted to start with 76.8 and just see how that works since lots seem to have luck with that charge weight.

    Anyway, here is the OCW sequence I plan on using:

    Target # 1 2 3 4 5 6
    Charge (gr) 72.5 74.0 75.5 77.0 77.5 78.1

    See how this works once I get some time to load the rounds.</div></div>

    77.0 worked best and sat in the middle of two other decent loads. Pretty close to 76.8 ... go figure.</div></div>

    Velocity comes out to 3027 FPS with a ballistics calculator (was 1.5 mils low at 400 yds)