Re: .375 GSC 355 grn SP bullets PICTURES
Later, Please don't. I was being open about the news I just received, and the gentleman that presented that information was reliable. Sorry for that, but it is a shout box! A simple no would suffice...and yes, still awaiting response from my congressman, thanks. Should everyone be judged then, what would someone say about your picture on your profile? If it helps, I'm sorry for getting so excited about it, so let's leave things be.
My work with the 20mm should not be in question here. For starters, I just brought it up because I wanted to avoid a tit-for-tat argument between Noel and I over Copper vs Bronze, and to just move on; more for entertainment then anything, but if you insist: I know of Warren Jensen's work. You should ask him about Mike from ABS and how we were developing cartridges for him, ask him about the .375 SMc design! And Anzio Ironworks set the mark with the 20mm and his 5000yard claim, which has been proven. No, it's not supersonic, but can you honestly tell me you cannot believe a 1600-2000grain projectile will not do 5000? So on to what I am currently doing. I am working with Dave Armstrong at Naval Weapons Station Crane (ask Warren, he knows him), who is spearheading the build, to design and/or improve the NTW-20, and others, to reach past 3000meters supersonic. Has been done easily. In fact, if you would like to purchase the 14.5mm bullets we tested, JD Jones of Ohio makes them...1173grains, you should try some! The project did take a serious setback because of the upper chain of command insisting we use up the $20+ million surplus of 20mmx110mm ammo. Range information and test data available from Dave, at his discretion. And yes, I cannot give too much information without Dave's permission, so I can only divulge information that is public, or somewhat at least. I will mention that 1.5MOA is Navy standard for AMR, so take it for what it's worth, but it is a good thought to entertain.
Noel, as a Christian, I am trying to refrain from insulting you, but you are making it difficult. I gave you information about testing the design and copper bullets to 6000, and 4,700 with HP's, for the point of disproving your copper failure BS! I didn't leave it vague, I was clear. I said I used a .22 and a .30 cal, and they were in conventional rifles! No propellant data because I don't want to give you any more then you have already taken...as you said, I have already divulged too much. Bullet was not mysterious, it was a GSC 197 grain .308...all public information, and if you would like, you can buy some of those to copy as well!
No, I don't have the rifle to test the 420's myself, so I am relying on others to do that for GSC, just as you are. We will just make them and wait for range reports. But do remember, some of the people buying these bullets are military so I cannot give you the range reports until they make them public...not my choice. I don't even know what to say to that babble about changing design to work with a slower twist, because we are using the same design that has been proven to work since the 295 .338SP! And I cannot even tell you why you would say something so silly as that we are using the same weight projectile!? And group size? Neither of us stated such numbers. I don't even know what to say to you...
Now with Bronze vs Copper, it is an apples to oranges discussion. It is simple though, bronze, especially bearing bronze, is too hard. It will eat up a barrel, period. It is completely unnecessary, and if fact, detrimental to use bronze. If you say the barrels are left clean, then so be it, but if bronze does foul, it does not come out easy. Why do I say this? Look at the alloys in it. Why does brass? Tin, Zink...they do not like to come out easily, not even with cleaners. Nickel doesn't either, not nearly as easy as copper. Then what you have is an accumulation, continuously building up (as it likes to bond with itself even better then steel) and the accuracy goes to H--- in a hand basket. I don't know how long it takes, but you will end up with a useless barrel much quicker then even conventional bullets. This is why I stated Gerard has a rifle that has seen well over 4,000 rounds at very high speeds and still shoots really well. I guess you could just ceramic line the barrel; have seen over 40,000 rounds through one and still going strong [5.56 NATO] (before you go trying to call me out Later, Mike Degerness of Advanced Barrel Systems offers them, I have one, his number is 402-890-2709, and it is military testing, but he can show you the barrel, it's public)
You are right about one thing, I am not half the man Gerard is, so I guess we are both standing on his shoulders...though I am standing with him. So how am I doing him a disservice?
I will stop the shouting, and back down from here. It is hard for me to do so because I am a fighter, and honor is important to me, but it is necessary. I don't like insults, so I am done.
-Anthony
