does any one clean their primer pockets ? also i notice both before and after i tumble my bras their is this greenish whiteish looking "crud" or what ever down in the case, does any one clean that stuff out ? and if so how ?
45 acp brass question
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Re: 45 acp brass question
99% of my 45 stuff is loaded on a Dillon 650. Throw it in the tumbler, seperate the brass from the media, put the brass in the case feeder, put on a bullet, pull the handle, put on a bullet, pull the handle. Every 6 load cycles I do a go no/go check on the case length after it comes out of the tumbler. If it makes the guage it gets loaded. If it's long I use my CH Machine trimmer to bring them back to acceptable length.
99% of my 45 stuff is loaded on a Dillon 650. Throw it in the tumbler, seperate the brass from the media, put the brass in the case feeder, put on a bullet, pull the handle, put on a bullet, pull the handle. Every 6 load cycles I do a go no/go check on the case length after it comes out of the tumbler. If it makes the guage it gets loaded. If it's long I use my CH Machine trimmer to bring them back to acceptable length.
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I gotta say I get a little lazy on the pistol reloads I just buy once fired brass that is already tumbled and run them through the minimal steps and check overall length. Not trying for accuracy from my 45s just reliable function. No problems yet.
Ern
I gotta say I get a little lazy on the pistol reloads I just buy once fired brass that is already tumbled and run them through the minimal steps and check overall length. Not trying for accuracy from my 45s just reliable function. No problems yet.
Ern
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I run mine through an ultrasonic so they get clean. Before that I would run
a pocket cleaner on a makita drill every 5th or so loading. In 42 years of shooting
45 acp, with a spattering of competition thrown in, I have never had to trim a case.
I run mine through an ultrasonic so they get clean. Before that I would run
a pocket cleaner on a makita drill every 5th or so loading. In 42 years of shooting
45 acp, with a spattering of competition thrown in, I have never had to trim a case.
Re: 45 acp brass question
what about that green/black patina look on the inside of the case ? worry about it or not ?
what about that green/black patina look on the inside of the case ? worry about it or not ?
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The ultrasonic takes everything out, stainless media does also. An overnight
tumbling in walnut media should have them plenty clean enough to shoot. I've
noticed an awful lot of guys posting they use corn cob. It's for polishing, walnut
is for cleaning.
The ultrasonic takes everything out, stainless media does also. An overnight
tumbling in walnut media should have them plenty clean enough to shoot. I've
noticed an awful lot of guys posting they use corn cob. It's for polishing, walnut
is for cleaning.
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hmm so i cannot imagine people first run their brass threw walnut and then corn cob, sounds like a pita to me, maybe i will just have to deal with that patina look lol
hmm so i cannot imagine people first run their brass threw walnut and then corn cob, sounds like a pita to me, maybe i will just have to deal with that patina look lol
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I use a dillon 650 & never clean primer pockets. I just tumble & load for pistol. Corn cob will clean cases but walnut hull will clean them quicker. Corn cob leaves a high polish & walnut leaves a satin finish. Never had crud in the cases after tumbling but i leave them in the tumbler with corn cob for many hours.
I use a dillon 650 & never clean primer pockets. I just tumble & load for pistol. Corn cob will clean cases but walnut hull will clean them quicker. Corn cob leaves a high polish & walnut leaves a satin finish. Never had crud in the cases after tumbling but i leave them in the tumbler with corn cob for many hours.
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I use the stainless steel media on all my brass after depriming including .45 ACP. Comes out spotless including primer pockets. I did use corncob media but using SS media brass is way more clean and no dust.
I use the stainless steel media on all my brass after depriming including .45 ACP. Comes out spotless including primer pockets. I did use corncob media but using SS media brass is way more clean and no dust.
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Almost everyone used to run their brass through walnut then corn cob. Somehow it got lost on this younger generation. The stainless media sounds
like all else will be obsolete sooner or later.
Almost everyone used to run their brass through walnut then corn cob. Somehow it got lost on this younger generation. The stainless media sounds
like all else will be obsolete sooner or later.
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Most accuracy rituals are irrelevant for my level of accuracy, which with a rifle is 0.5 moa at best with my best rifles.
For handguns, I have a hard time keeping it on the paper and not shooting the chronograph. So any 45acp handload is good enough for my accuracy needs.
I do have a 45acp rifle that I use to shoot groups at 100 yards.
That has a chamber WAY tighter than SAAMI specs, and I have accuracy rituals for that. The problem is not dirty primer pockets, but getting the ammo concentric.
Most accuracy rituals are irrelevant for my level of accuracy, which with a rifle is 0.5 moa at best with my best rifles.
For handguns, I have a hard time keeping it on the paper and not shooting the chronograph. So any 45acp handload is good enough for my accuracy needs.
I do have a 45acp rifle that I use to shoot groups at 100 yards.
That has a chamber WAY tighter than SAAMI specs, and I have accuracy rituals for that. The problem is not dirty primer pockets, but getting the ammo concentric.
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Clark-
I started one of those myself over the weekend, intersting note you'll enjoy. I got a Turk Mauser that actually has large ring threads in it, not the usual small ring. That was a first for both myself and my dad.
I'm thinking about opening the bolt face up and copying the Rhineland Arms conversion for 45ACP over to a 44mag and use DE mags... that would be a fun little rifle too.
BACK TO JAMES:
I clean via SS media now, but with the walnut/corncob mix I used to use for cleaning and polishing I just let it clean out whatever was easy and ran 'em. Maybe if I was in a time wasting mood I might clean out the cases to get rid of the patina you're seeing but usually not. I was happy with them shooting plates and that was it.
Clark-
I started one of those myself over the weekend, intersting note you'll enjoy. I got a Turk Mauser that actually has large ring threads in it, not the usual small ring. That was a first for both myself and my dad.
I'm thinking about opening the bolt face up and copying the Rhineland Arms conversion for 45ACP over to a 44mag and use DE mags... that would be a fun little rifle too.
BACK TO JAMES:
I clean via SS media now, but with the walnut/corncob mix I used to use for cleaning and polishing I just let it clean out whatever was easy and ran 'em. Maybe if I was in a time wasting mood I might clean out the cases to get rid of the patina you're seeing but usually not. I was happy with them shooting plates and that was it.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bohem</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Clark-
I started one of those myself over the weekend, intersting note you'll enjoy. I got a Turk Mauser that actually has large ring threads in it, not the usual small ring. That was a first for both myself and my dad.
I'm thinking about opening the bolt face up and copying the Rhineland Arms conversion for 45ACP over to a 44mag and use DE mags... that would be a fun little rifle too.
BACK TO JAMES:
I clean via SS media now, but with the walnut/corncob mix I used to use for cleaning and polishing I just let it clean out whatever was easy and ran 'em. Maybe if I was in a time wasting mood I might clean out the cases to get rid of the patina you're seeing but usually not. I was happy with them shooting plates and that was it. </div></div>
then I wont worry about it
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bohem</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Clark-
I started one of those myself over the weekend, intersting note you'll enjoy. I got a Turk Mauser that actually has large ring threads in it, not the usual small ring. That was a first for both myself and my dad.
I'm thinking about opening the bolt face up and copying the Rhineland Arms conversion for 45ACP over to a 44mag and use DE mags... that would be a fun little rifle too.
BACK TO JAMES:
I clean via SS media now, but with the walnut/corncob mix I used to use for cleaning and polishing I just let it clean out whatever was easy and ran 'em. Maybe if I was in a time wasting mood I might clean out the cases to get rid of the patina you're seeing but usually not. I was happy with them shooting plates and that was it. </div></div>
then I wont worry about it
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I don't clean that stuff out of the cases after tumbling. I do use a Lee primer pocket cleaner after I deprime and resize though. I load the primers by hand using a Lee Auto Prime. Seats perfect everytime.
I don't clean that stuff out of the cases after tumbling. I do use a Lee primer pocket cleaner after I deprime and resize though. I load the primers by hand using a Lee Auto Prime. Seats perfect everytime.
Re: 45 acp brass question
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bohem</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Clark-
I started one of those myself over the weekend, intersting note you'll enjoy. I got a Turk Mauser that actually has large ring threads in it, not the usual small ring. That was a first for both myself and my dad.
I'm thinking about opening the bolt face up and copying the Rhineland Arms conversion for 45ACP over to a 44mag and use DE mags... that would be a fun little rifle too. </div></div>
A 45acp reamer will make a .480" chamber.
I made a .470" chamber with a straight fluted .001" increment reamer and a throater, because it is cheaper and that is the size of the brass when it comes out of a Lee carbide sizer die.
That does nothing for feeding from a magazine, but does a lot for group size.
I shoot beyond 460 Rowland loads at ~ 50,000 psi with standard 45acp brass, Montana Gold 230 gr FMJ, and get groups at 100 yards.
I built it with a Shilen bull barrel back in 2000.
It is a crowd pleaser. Not loud, not a lot of recoil, but huge noise when the bullet hits the plywood at 100 yards, and blasts pieces of plywood out the back of the target.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bohem</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Clark-
I started one of those myself over the weekend, intersting note you'll enjoy. I got a Turk Mauser that actually has large ring threads in it, not the usual small ring. That was a first for both myself and my dad.
I'm thinking about opening the bolt face up and copying the Rhineland Arms conversion for 45ACP over to a 44mag and use DE mags... that would be a fun little rifle too. </div></div>
A 45acp reamer will make a .480" chamber.
I made a .470" chamber with a straight fluted .001" increment reamer and a throater, because it is cheaper and that is the size of the brass when it comes out of a Lee carbide sizer die.
That does nothing for feeding from a magazine, but does a lot for group size.
I shoot beyond 460 Rowland loads at ~ 50,000 psi with standard 45acp brass, Montana Gold 230 gr FMJ, and get groups at 100 yards.
I built it with a Shilen bull barrel back in 2000.
It is a crowd pleaser. Not loud, not a lot of recoil, but huge noise when the bullet hits the plywood at 100 yards, and blasts pieces of plywood out the back of the target.
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Very cool on the reamer detail, I'm going to keep that image, thanks.
I like that trick about the 470 reamer, that's cool too.
Very cool on the reamer detail, I'm going to keep that image, thanks.
I like that trick about the 470 reamer, that's cool too.
