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6 cops mag dump suspect from about 25 feet....and missed.

I worked at a range the local PD/SO and even some feds “qualified“ there, it was terrifying.
When I applied with APD in the 80's and was asked to list my Hobbies, I included recreational and competative shooting.

I was told I was not what they were looking for.

Some cop later told me that was the worst answer I could have given.
 
Hot dam they all showed up for work to look like they did something meaningful. Betting there were a few full sheet size trays of donut in the background albeit emptied before they zombie walked in with an overload of fat.
 
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Subject retreated into the house as they started firing. Not to mention a good amount of distance.

So while yes, they likely need some range time, you guys should spend some time reading the entire story.

Or open a business as firearm instructors as you all clearly think you can hit a person running into a house @ 20yds with your handgun on command.
Me at the range.

 
Now put Mel Gibson up against this guy.

Jim Zubiena was the real deal, pulled out of the newly formed IPSC crowd in the early 80's to be a technical advisor on Miami Vice, including teaching Don Johnson the nuances of combat shooting with the Bren Ten.

Michael Mann said fuckit, he's got the actor's looks and real life skills, just put him in front of the camera.

The 80's was a good time to be alive.

 
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Now put Mel Gibson up against this guy.

Jim Zubiena was the real deal, pulled out of the newly formed IPSC crowd in the early 80's to be a technical advisor on Miami Vice, including teaching Don Johnson the nuances of combat shooting with the Bren Ten.

Michael Mann said fuckit, he's got the actor's looks and real life skills, just put him in front of the camera.

The 80's was a good time to be alive.



Love that scene. I read clearing and dropping the handgun was ad lib by Zubiena.

Also, Don Johnson had the only spare Bren Ten mag in the country.
 
Love that scene. I read clearing and dropping the handgun was ad lib by Zubiena.

Also, Don Johnson had the only spare Bren Ten mag in the country.
It probably came from muscle memory from shooting IPSC, clearing his weapon after a stage.

Yeah, that was very stupid on Dornaus & Dixon's part, the guys that produced the Bren Ten, not tooling up for the mags.

The joke was, people would go to the set after a scene where Don Johnson did a reload, trying to find the dropped mag.
 
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So I read all the comments but will not quote any.
1) Police tend to be the worst, least disciplined shooters I have met while shooting competitively. Also they know everything about fire arms because they carry a gun all day.
2) After shooting many disciplines including moving tombstones, they sucked big time. Now if the guy was shooting back I would cut them minimal slack. He was standing there.
3) 25 yards........really...........if you can not hit something at 25 yards give up.
 
So I read all the comments but will not quote any.
1) Police tend to be the worst, least disciplined shooters I have met while shooting competitively. Also they know everything about fire arms because they carry a gun all day.
2) After shooting many disciplines including moving tombstones, they sucked big time. Now if the guy was shooting back I would cut them minimal slack. He was standing there.
3) 25 yards........really...........if you can not hit something at 25 yards give up.
Just don't allow a former cop to be the time keeper in a match if his fellow cop buddies are competing.

 
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Just don't allow a former cop to be the time keeper in a match if his fellow cop buddies are competing.


Not sure if I have said this here before but Mom taught me 3 things when I was very young IIRC started about 5-6 years old.

1) Believe nothing you hear and only half of what you see
2) the only way 2 people can keep a secret is one has to be dead
3) NEVER trust a police officer.

I grew up in NY in a well connected family, there were different rules.
 
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Not sure if I have said this here before but Mom taught me 3 things when I was very young IIRC started about 5-6 years old.

1) Believe nothing you hear and only half of what you see
2) the only way 2 people can keep a secret is one has to be dead
3) NEVER trust a police officer.

I grew up in NY in a well connected family, there were different rules.
My dad said that as well, except #3 he would say, stay away from the cops and the mob.
Chicago
 
Not sure if I have said this here before but Mom taught me 3 things when I was very young IIRC started about 5-6 years old.

1) Believe nothing you hear and only half of what you see
2) the only way 2 people can keep a secret is one has to be dead
3) NEVER trust a police officer.

I grew up in NY in a well connected family, there were different rules.
4) And don't ever trust whitey

Did she tell you what your 'special purpose' was for?
 
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Love it how the female ducks down behind the car like there's return fire.
That was a tactical duck, taught in the academy.

Wonder where the shots hitting halfway up the driveway ended up?
 
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4) And don't ever trust whitey

Did she tell you what your 'special purpose' was for?

Whitey's was a very good diner.................
I was 14 years younger than all the cousins, kinda an oops. My special purpose was to not get involved in the family business. Mom seen it degrading into nothing good. She kept her baby safe.
My oldest brother was wacked at 41, he fell down the stairs 4-5 times while working on the World Trade Center all union..............
My oldest cousin was head of the drywall union and ran sports books for the Cicalese family in NYC among other endeavors.
Other family,
Lenny Montana Sr. hitman body guard arsonist and actor played Luca Brasi in the Godfather amongst other roles
Lenny Jr. ran the porn out of Vegas
Horace worked in the garment district and would stop by and say Hey Mom look what fell off the truck today and it is your size. Horace was not related he was a huge, really huge black guy that was my Moms friend from somewhere along the way.
Amazing how much good stuff "falls of the truck in NYC".
Oh the stories growing up. Every cop on LI was on the take, the good ole days.
Ah I digress....................
 
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Whitey's was a very good diner.................
I was 14 years younger than all the cousins, kinda an oops. My special purpose was to not get involved in the family business. Mom seen it degrading into nothing good. She kept her baby safe.
My oldest brother was wacked at 41, he fell down the stairs 4-5 times while working on the World Trade Center all union..............
My oldest cousin was head of the drywall union and ran sports books for the Cicalese family in NYC among other endeavors.
Other family,
Lenny Montana Sr. hitman body guard arsonist and actor played Luca Brasi in the Godfather amongst other roles
Lenny Jr. ran the porn out of Vegas
Horace worked in the garment district and would stop by and say Hey Mom look what fell off the truck today and it is your size. Horace was not related he was a huge, really huge black guy that was my Moms friend from somewhere along the way.
Amazing how much good stuff "falls of the truck in NYC".
Oh the stories growing up. Every cop on LI was on the take, the good ole days.
Ah I digress....................
With all the free stuff that fell off the truck, did you ever let your boss wet his beak?

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I knew Lenny Montana was a body guard and former pro wrestler. I didn't know he was a button man but should have just assumed.

eta- Alfredo Lettieri or 'Big Al', the actor that played Virgil Sollozzo in the Godfather, older brother was a real capo in the NY mob. Both the brothers died not long after the movie was released.

Rumor has it the mob wasn't pleased to learn Al's brother had been contacted by Francis Ford Coplela for technical advice, breaking the code of silence, or Omerta.
 
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What job are you sucking up for? You're going to have to spend some time in a tanning bed so the rest of your body matches your brown nose.

Remember the bank robbery in LA several years back. Those guys were wearing body armor and most of the cops were carrying revolvers. You can watch the video on YouTube and see the bad guys taking hits. Those guys were actually being shot at by guys with ARs AKs and they made hits from further distance with revolvers.