Anyone ever come across a company who has a replacment barrel for the savage/stevens 200 action (10/110) in 7mm-08AI?
7mm-08AI barrel for a savage/stevens short action?
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Re: 7mm-08AI barrel for a savage/stevens short action?
Try Lothar Walther or Benchamrk. You can contact Kevin Rayhill at Stockade Gun Stocks: http://www.stockadegunstocks.com/. He is the master of all things Savage.
I have both, Lothar Walther and Benchmark. They are both very good barrels. In my opinion the Benchmark is on par with Krieger and Rock Creek. The Lothar is about as good as you can get in a button rifled barrel. I think Lothar will cut the barrel and chamber to your specs for a very reasonable price.
Try Lothar Walther or Benchamrk. You can contact Kevin Rayhill at Stockade Gun Stocks: http://www.stockadegunstocks.com/. He is the master of all things Savage.
I have both, Lothar Walther and Benchmark. They are both very good barrels. In my opinion the Benchmark is on par with Krieger and Rock Creek. The Lothar is about as good as you can get in a button rifled barrel. I think Lothar will cut the barrel and chamber to your specs for a very reasonable price.
Re: 7mm-08AI barrel for a savage/stevens short action?
I will send out an e-mail. Thanks for your help
I will send out an e-mail. Thanks for your help
Re: 7mm-08AI barrel for a savage/stevens short action?
Also contact sinarms from the savage shooters foroum. He buys LW and another brand barrel and chambers them himself for savages pretty cheap.
Also contact sinarms from the savage shooters foroum. He buys LW and another brand barrel and chambers them himself for savages pretty cheap.
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Sin quoted me $340 and is 8 weeks out on his sin arms barrels Still waiting on other replies.
Sin quoted me $340 and is 8 weeks out on his sin arms barrels Still waiting on other replies.
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McGowen just gave me word I should have my 7mm-08 done by the end of this month. I ordered it on the 30th of Dec. I don't know if they can chamber in 7mm-08 AI or not but I don't think you gain that much by going AI on the 7mm-08. I have heard it's only 40-50fps but if it's that important to you keep up your search.
Good luck,
Merritt
McGowen just gave me word I should have my 7mm-08 done by the end of this month. I ordered it on the 30th of Dec. I don't know if they can chamber in 7mm-08 AI or not but I don't think you gain that much by going AI on the 7mm-08. I have heard it's only 40-50fps but if it's that important to you keep up your search.
Good luck,
Merritt
Re: 7mm-08AI barrel for a savage/stevens short action?
Well here are a couple reasons I have been talked into this round. AI helps with brass stretch and life, it does gain alittle veloicity, and I have a good friend who already has the $110 3 die set for the AI. I was wanting 243 but a few people have since talked me out of it. So this is my new kick at the moment.
SavageBarrels.com that sells McGowen said he is 4 weeks out and can do the AI but it will be $42 extra to rent the reamer for it.
So im getting some good info and when I get all my replies Ill see what fits me needs better.
Im looking at the following for specs as I plan to shoot the lighter 120g:
Varmint contour (~.80" muzzle)
Stainless Steel
11 degree crown
1/9 twist
Well here are a couple reasons I have been talked into this round. AI helps with brass stretch and life, it does gain alittle veloicity, and I have a good friend who already has the $110 3 die set for the AI. I was wanting 243 but a few people have since talked me out of it. So this is my new kick at the moment.
SavageBarrels.com that sells McGowen said he is 4 weeks out and can do the AI but it will be $42 extra to rent the reamer for it.
So im getting some good info and when I get all my replies Ill see what fits me needs better.
Im looking at the following for specs as I plan to shoot the lighter 120g:
Varmint contour (~.80" muzzle)
Stainless Steel
11 degree crown
1/9 twist
Re: 7mm-08AI barrel for a savage/stevens short action?
try jim at northland. its
http://savageshooters.com/SavageForum/index.php/board,64.0.html
and he carries three brands. call him.
try jim at northland. its
http://savageshooters.com/SavageForum/index.php/board,64.0.html
and he carries three brands. call him.
Re: 7mm-08AI barrel for a savage/stevens short action?
if you're not too picky about SS vs CM
http://www.pac-nor.com/readytoship/
top of the page.... they will thread and chamber.....
if you're not too picky about SS vs CM
http://www.pac-nor.com/readytoship/
top of the page.... they will thread and chamber.....
Re: 7mm-08AI barrel for a savage/stevens short action?
My build specs were:
McGowen CM
26" Bull
7mm-08
1in8 twist with 11 degree crown
I plan to run the 162s, 168s and maybe the 180s so you running a 1 in 9 with the light bullets should work out very well. Just be advised if you run the 1 in 9 every barrel maker I spoke to said you won't be able to go over the 162s. My brother runs a stevens 200 with the stock 7mm-08 barrel and if he goes over 130gr in his 1in11.5 twist his bullets go sideways through the target at 100 yards. That's why I am overtwisting a bit.
Good luck,
Merritt
My build specs were:
McGowen CM
26" Bull
7mm-08
1in8 twist with 11 degree crown
I plan to run the 162s, 168s and maybe the 180s so you running a 1 in 9 with the light bullets should work out very well. Just be advised if you run the 1 in 9 every barrel maker I spoke to said you won't be able to go over the 162s. My brother runs a stevens 200 with the stock 7mm-08 barrel and if he goes over 130gr in his 1in11.5 twist his bullets go sideways through the target at 100 yards. That's why I am overtwisting a bit.
Good luck,
Merritt
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I'd also try Jim at Northland. He's a good dude and he'll help you to get you anything you need related to Savage/Stevens. I've seen that he carries 7-08 barrels in stock. I'm sure the 7-08AI is an improvement but I've seen some standard 7-08's getting out to 1000yd with some awesome accuracy. If you wanna wait for a barrel, by all means don't let us stop you, but you won't be disappointed with a standard 7-08.
I'd also try Jim at Northland. He's a good dude and he'll help you to get you anything you need related to Savage/Stevens. I've seen that he carries 7-08 barrels in stock. I'm sure the 7-08AI is an improvement but I've seen some standard 7-08's getting out to 1000yd with some awesome accuracy. If you wanna wait for a barrel, by all means don't let us stop you, but you won't be disappointed with a standard 7-08.
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Well I Have spoke with mcGowan, sin arms, and PAC-nor all can chamber it.
Here is another thought. Is 20" to short for the 7-08 to perform like it can? I won't be shooting 1000yds and plan to shoot 120's for general hunting and shooting. Or is 22" the shortest you should go on an 7-08
Well I Have spoke with mcGowan, sin arms, and PAC-nor all can chamber it.
Here is another thought. Is 20" to short for the 7-08 to perform like it can? I won't be shooting 1000yds and plan to shoot 120's for general hunting and shooting. Or is 22" the shortest you should go on an 7-08
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The 7-08 is not as efficient as a 308 when using short barrels (has to do with the cross section of the bullet vs powder capacity of the cartridge). You would still be able to get good velocity since you will be handloading lighter bullets though.
I do suggest a tighter twist though. If you ever want to sell the rifle or move out to longer ranges you would be dissapointed.
tater
The 7-08 is not as efficient as a 308 when using short barrels (has to do with the cross section of the bullet vs powder capacity of the cartridge). You would still be able to get good velocity since you will be handloading lighter bullets though.
I do suggest a tighter twist though. If you ever want to sell the rifle or move out to longer ranges you would be dissapointed.
tater
Re: 7mm-08AI barrel for a savage/stevens short action?
So do you recommend a 1-8 for a 22"? I love the idea of the 20" but not sure of how much it will affect it. Like I said this is not going to be a long-range paper puncher but a 400 yard or so all around gun for hunting or plinking at distance
So do you recommend a 1-8 for a 22"? I love the idea of the 20" but not sure of how much it will affect it. Like I said this is not going to be a long-range paper puncher but a 400 yard or so all around gun for hunting or plinking at distance
Re: 7mm-08AI barrel for a savage/stevens short action?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: aberbaseball7</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So do you recommend a 1-8 for a 22"? I love the idea of the 20" but not sure of how much it will affect it. Like I said this is not going to be a long-range paper puncher but a 400 yard or so all around gun for hunting or plinking at distance </div></div>
Yeah as long as you stay around 400 yards I see no reason why I wouldn't work. You will probably have to use powders that most 7mm-08s don't use though as you'll need a faster burning powder. Good luck and do whatever you think is right. My brother's 7mm08 is a slow twist and 22" long and I could easily hit at 500 with it and it's a sporter barrel so I'm sure you could get away with it as long as you didn't care about having a 1000yd weapon.
Good luck,
Merritt
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: aberbaseball7</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So do you recommend a 1-8 for a 22"? I love the idea of the 20" but not sure of how much it will affect it. Like I said this is not going to be a long-range paper puncher but a 400 yard or so all around gun for hunting or plinking at distance </div></div>
Yeah as long as you stay around 400 yards I see no reason why I wouldn't work. You will probably have to use powders that most 7mm-08s don't use though as you'll need a faster burning powder. Good luck and do whatever you think is right. My brother's 7mm08 is a slow twist and 22" long and I could easily hit at 500 with it and it's a sporter barrel so I'm sure you could get away with it as long as you didn't care about having a 1000yd weapon.
Good luck,
Merritt
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Well im not sure what is right if you couldnt tell already LOL. I have a hard time making my mind up and sticking to a plan.
Only thing I know for sure is that im looking for a budget build off this stevens 200 and I already have the B&C medalist a2 varmint/tacticle on the way. Im really thinking on sticking with the normal 7mm-08 for the ease of use after weighing the ackley part. So really I just need to figure out what twist and length. I have no where to shoot 1000yds as a range type setting.
I may not even fire 20 rounds a month from this after finding a good load for it. I just don't have time to shoot as much as I want. Coyotes and deer are the only thing I hunt. I want to stay light with the 120's or so and would like to have the shortest barrel while keeping the best velocity that this round performs at. So if that's 22" then that's what I want, but if I can do 20" without sacrificing a lot then its a option also. I plan to do a varmint contour or near that.
I talked to a guy from http://www.stockadegunstocks.com/ that chambers benchmark barrels. Seemed like a good guy with the know how to build a good gun. He quoted me $380 for the specs I wanted with the benchmark barrel. Pac-nor was $355 I believe and the McGowen was in the $290 range. So between the benchmarck, Pac-Nor and McGowen am I getting $100 better of a barrel for my non competition budget hunting rifle. Will I be ok with the McGowen? Or should I buy once cry once on this?
Well im not sure what is right if you couldnt tell already LOL. I have a hard time making my mind up and sticking to a plan.
Only thing I know for sure is that im looking for a budget build off this stevens 200 and I already have the B&C medalist a2 varmint/tacticle on the way. Im really thinking on sticking with the normal 7mm-08 for the ease of use after weighing the ackley part. So really I just need to figure out what twist and length. I have no where to shoot 1000yds as a range type setting.
I may not even fire 20 rounds a month from this after finding a good load for it. I just don't have time to shoot as much as I want. Coyotes and deer are the only thing I hunt. I want to stay light with the 120's or so and would like to have the shortest barrel while keeping the best velocity that this round performs at. So if that's 22" then that's what I want, but if I can do 20" without sacrificing a lot then its a option also. I plan to do a varmint contour or near that.
I talked to a guy from http://www.stockadegunstocks.com/ that chambers benchmark barrels. Seemed like a good guy with the know how to build a good gun. He quoted me $380 for the specs I wanted with the benchmark barrel. Pac-nor was $355 I believe and the McGowen was in the $290 range. So between the benchmarck, Pac-Nor and McGowen am I getting $100 better of a barrel for my non competition budget hunting rifle. Will I be ok with the McGowen? Or should I buy once cry once on this?
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Also the powders I have on hand are Varget, H335, H4831, IMR 4895 and reloader 19. What are most guys using for the 7mm-08?
Also the powders I have on hand are Varget, H335, H4831, IMR 4895 and reloader 19. What are most guys using for the 7mm-08?
Re: 7mm-08AI barrel for a savage/stevens short action?
If you went with a 20" Sin Arms barrel it would be $240 plus shipping FYI, over 20" I have to charge more because of the blank cost.
If you went with a 20" Sin Arms barrel it would be $240 plus shipping FYI, over 20" I have to charge more because of the blank cost.
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Man I have contacted a more then a few people and tend to leave someone out. Still a 10 week turn around on a normal 7mm-08 20"?
Man I have contacted a more then a few people and tend to leave someone out. Still a 10 week turn around on a normal 7mm-08 20"?
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It would be right around 8 weeks on that since I have the reamer on hand
It would be right around 8 weeks on that since I have the reamer on hand
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For twist, 9.5 is pretty standard. I see no reason to go faster, especially with 120 grain bullets. For 160 grain bullets many barrels are 9.0, and that is the fastest twist I have heard of.
For twist, 9.5 is pretty standard. I see no reason to go faster, especially with 120 grain bullets. For 160 grain bullets many barrels are 9.0, and that is the fastest twist I have heard of.
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You'll be very happy with your 7mm08. Mine is standard (non AI), 20" Pac Nor Match (or Super, I don't recall), 1 in 8" twist.
The contour's somewhere between a light and medium Palma. I had it turned down from a #7 when it was threaded. It might be a little heavy if I had to carry it for too long, but it's really a great rifle. It's well worth its weight.
It doesn't matter if you get a 20" or 22" or a standard or AI, you'll end up with a great rifle that you can work on yourself. I don't think there are really any wrong choices from where you are in your selection.....
Enjoy,
Bob
You'll be very happy with your 7mm08. Mine is standard (non AI), 20" Pac Nor Match (or Super, I don't recall), 1 in 8" twist.
The contour's somewhere between a light and medium Palma. I had it turned down from a #7 when it was threaded. It might be a little heavy if I had to carry it for too long, but it's really a great rifle. It's well worth its weight.
It doesn't matter if you get a 20" or 22" or a standard or AI, you'll end up with a great rifle that you can work on yourself. I don't think there are really any wrong choices from where you are in your selection.....
Enjoy,
Bob
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Blue how heavy of a bullet are you shooting with the 20" and 1-8 twist? Have you shot 120g? Is there such a thing as over twisting like there is under twisting?
Blue how heavy of a bullet are you shooting with the 20" and 1-8 twist? Have you shot 120g? Is there such a thing as over twisting like there is under twisting?
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Your "overtwist" questions is a good one aberbaseball7, I was wondering that today, too. I would imagine that there's an upper limit on how fast you'd want the twist, since bullets can maybe fly apart, but I don't know what it is. You'll have to ask the Wise Old Owl on that one.
I'm shooting 162 grain amaxes on a hefty load (42.6 grains) of Varget, 1.90+ OAL, BR2 primers, and Winchester brass.
edited since I forgot to answer one of your questions: I've never shot lighter bullets than 162 grains.
Bob
Your "overtwist" questions is a good one aberbaseball7, I was wondering that today, too. I would imagine that there's an upper limit on how fast you'd want the twist, since bullets can maybe fly apart, but I don't know what it is. You'll have to ask the Wise Old Owl on that one.
I'm shooting 162 grain amaxes on a hefty load (42.6 grains) of Varget, 1.90+ OAL, BR2 primers, and Winchester brass.
edited since I forgot to answer one of your questions: I've never shot lighter bullets than 162 grains.
Bob
