7mm rem mag
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Because they are either short action snobs or Lapua fans.
I believe the 7mm bullets offer the best balistics, but many here will say "know the ballistics of the round you shoot" as the end all arguement. So why not learn the ballistics of the better cartridge/bullet combo?
I say go for the 7mm Rem. Learn it. Use it. Master it.
It is an immensly popular factury loaded cartidge that can be bought anywhere that ammo is sold. Try buying 6.5X284, 6.5X47mm Lapua or 338 Lapua at some Mom and Pop store in Podunk, USA during hunting season.
I lean to the 7mm Weatherby as it was my dad's hand me down so to speak and the rifle has sentimental value, but as the stock barrel gets closer to the end of its life, a 7mm Rem, 7-300 Weatherby or 7mm Dakota or possible options.
Don't get me wrong, I love my 308 and my 223, but I would take a 7mm Rem over a 300 Win Mag anyday. Now I have to admit, I do like my 30-378 Weatherby Mag and am considering a 338 Lapua, Edge or Extreme.
Really depends on what you want to use the rifle for.
Because they are either short action snobs or Lapua fans.
I believe the 7mm bullets offer the best balistics, but many here will say "know the ballistics of the round you shoot" as the end all arguement. So why not learn the ballistics of the better cartridge/bullet combo?
I say go for the 7mm Rem. Learn it. Use it. Master it.
It is an immensly popular factury loaded cartidge that can be bought anywhere that ammo is sold. Try buying 6.5X284, 6.5X47mm Lapua or 338 Lapua at some Mom and Pop store in Podunk, USA during hunting season.
I lean to the 7mm Weatherby as it was my dad's hand me down so to speak and the rifle has sentimental value, but as the stock barrel gets closer to the end of its life, a 7mm Rem, 7-300 Weatherby or 7mm Dakota or possible options.
Don't get me wrong, I love my 308 and my 223, but I would take a 7mm Rem over a 300 Win Mag anyday. Now I have to admit, I do like my 30-378 Weatherby Mag and am considering a 338 Lapua, Edge or Extreme.
Really depends on what you want to use the rifle for.
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The 7mmWSM does seem to be a little more popular, but the 7mmRM is a great round. It is one of my prefered hunting choices for longer distances and deadly with Nosler 160 Accubonds over some Retumbo.
There also seems to be the issue of the belt, but I have never seen that be an issue in any of the 7mmRM that I have worked with. The belt is for looks these days and not much else. It is a left over remanent from cartridges that used it for headspacing, but the 7mmRM headspaces off of the shoulder.
If you choose to go with the 7mmRM, I don't think you will be disappointed. If you want to really get crazy with the 7mm caliber, jump up to the 7mm RUM. The best powder to performance ratio cartridge is probably the 7mmWSM or 7mm RSAUM, but I am a speed freak and say go with the 7mmRM.
The 7mmWSM does seem to be a little more popular, but the 7mmRM is a great round. It is one of my prefered hunting choices for longer distances and deadly with Nosler 160 Accubonds over some Retumbo.
There also seems to be the issue of the belt, but I have never seen that be an issue in any of the 7mmRM that I have worked with. The belt is for looks these days and not much else. It is a left over remanent from cartridges that used it for headspacing, but the 7mmRM headspaces off of the shoulder.
If you choose to go with the 7mmRM, I don't think you will be disappointed. If you want to really get crazy with the 7mm caliber, jump up to the 7mm RUM. The best powder to performance ratio cartridge is probably the 7mmWSM or 7mm RSAUM, but I am a speed freak and say go with the 7mmRM.
Re: 7mm rem mag
Think I would go the other way.
A .280rem, Ackley Improved is more versatile and will yield longer barrel life. The .284 win is also a good choice especially in a long action if you plan to use the heavy match bullets, which you must to get the best Ballistic Coefficient performance.
Then again, look at the 6.5x55 if you are cool with a 140gr match bullet.
No real need to go magnum for 7mm precision.
If you want real longrange ballistic performance the .338 is the ticket, and a .338 win will work, or even better the .300win mag necked up to .338. The hornady 250gr bthp will give .650 BC heavier bullets even more BC... The 7mm 175gr smk is .498 BC iirc.
Look at the 6.5mm bullets if longrange precision is your goal. If you plan to shoot elk, you can probably use the magnum power and 7mm Rem will be fine. Most "tactical competitors" who score well use 6mm or 6.5mm guns for their lighter recoil and great ballistic performance.
Think I would go the other way.
A .280rem, Ackley Improved is more versatile and will yield longer barrel life. The .284 win is also a good choice especially in a long action if you plan to use the heavy match bullets, which you must to get the best Ballistic Coefficient performance.
Then again, look at the 6.5x55 if you are cool with a 140gr match bullet.
No real need to go magnum for 7mm precision.
If you want real longrange ballistic performance the .338 is the ticket, and a .338 win will work, or even better the .300win mag necked up to .338. The hornady 250gr bthp will give .650 BC heavier bullets even more BC... The 7mm 175gr smk is .498 BC iirc.
Look at the 6.5mm bullets if longrange precision is your goal. If you plan to shoot elk, you can probably use the magnum power and 7mm Rem will be fine. Most "tactical competitors" who score well use 6mm or 6.5mm guns for their lighter recoil and great ballistic performance.
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Im building one for a precision rifle as well. For me to bridge the gap between my .243 and .338LM. But pretty much my main goal with this rifle is to have on elk hunts in colorado, or other larger game hunts. Ive seen alot of the wsm threads pop up too, and after I bought my 7mmRM barrel I really noticed them. I often wondered why, then I seen the availability in brass, the wsm has better brass then the 7mmRM. And if you get a long action, and build a wsm, then you can shoot the big heavies and not worry about mag lengths and boolits not fitting. But Im still a 7mmRM fan.
Im building one for a precision rifle as well. For me to bridge the gap between my .243 and .338LM. But pretty much my main goal with this rifle is to have on elk hunts in colorado, or other larger game hunts. Ive seen alot of the wsm threads pop up too, and after I bought my 7mmRM barrel I really noticed them. I often wondered why, then I seen the availability in brass, the wsm has better brass then the 7mmRM. And if you get a long action, and build a wsm, then you can shoot the big heavies and not worry about mag lengths and boolits not fitting. But Im still a 7mmRM fan.
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7wsm better brass than 7rm?? Well you may be mistaken, I only know winchester 7wsm brass ( maybe Nosler also?) while 7rm is made by rem, winchester, norma, nosler, rws, among others......
I am also considering a 7 mm, debating between the 7wsm and 7rm.. the plus for the wsm would be to try it on a short action, but not sure if will work with the heavier bullets ( 175 smk, 180 bergers)...also, as said before, you can find 7rm ammo anywhere if needed.
7wsm better brass than 7rm?? Well you may be mistaken, I only know winchester 7wsm brass ( maybe Nosler also?) while 7rm is made by rem, winchester, norma, nosler, rws, among others......
I am also considering a 7 mm, debating between the 7wsm and 7rm.. the plus for the wsm would be to try it on a short action, but not sure if will work with the heavier bullets ( 175 smk, 180 bergers)...also, as said before, you can find 7rm ammo anywhere if needed.
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Thanks for the heads up on the ballistics information. I picked up a Remington 700 sps - 7mmRM a week ago and I finally got to shoot it today for the first time, I can see the love people have for the 308 and 338 lapua. The 7mm doesn't have much recoil at all. I used to play American Trap with a 12 gauge pump action, so in comparison I couldn't even feel this.
I don't have a viewer scope so I couldn't get a spotter to help me at the range today and I'm left to return and try to zero in my scope next week.... Any hints on how to zero it in without wasting a box of ammo would be great. It's nearly $2 a shot, but readily available in my city.
Thanks for the heads up on the ballistics information. I picked up a Remington 700 sps - 7mmRM a week ago and I finally got to shoot it today for the first time, I can see the love people have for the 308 and 338 lapua. The 7mm doesn't have much recoil at all. I used to play American Trap with a 12 gauge pump action, so in comparison I couldn't even feel this.
I don't have a viewer scope so I couldn't get a spotter to help me at the range today and I'm left to return and try to zero in my scope next week.... Any hints on how to zero it in without wasting a box of ammo would be great. It's nearly $2 a shot, but readily available in my city.
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The way I always sight my stuff in is how the military taught me. 3 shots while aiming at the same spot on the target the whole time. Then when you fire your 3 shots, you make the adjustments. Fire 3 more times in a group if you want and waalaaa your done if your adjustments worked out good. I would start reloading if bullets cost me $2 a round. That could get expensive.
The way I always sight my stuff in is how the military taught me. 3 shots while aiming at the same spot on the target the whole time. Then when you fire your 3 shots, you make the adjustments. Fire 3 more times in a group if you want and waalaaa your done if your adjustments worked out good. I would start reloading if bullets cost me $2 a round. That could get expensive.
Re: 7mm rem mag
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bignada</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Think I would go the other way.
A .280rem, Ackley Improved is more versatile and will yield longer barrel life. The .284 win is also a good choice especially in a long action if you plan to use the heavy match bullets, which you must to get the best Ballistic Coefficient performance.
Then again, look at the 6.5x55 if you are cool with a 140gr match bullet.
No real need to go magnum for 7mm precision.
If you want real longrange ballistic performance the .338 is the ticket, and a .338 win will work, or even better the .300win mag necked up to .338. The hornady 250gr bthp will give .650 BC heavier bullets even more BC... The 7mm 175gr smk is .498 BC iirc.
Look at the 6.5mm bullets if longrange precision is your goal. If you plan to shoot elk, you can probably use the magnum power and 7mm Rem will be fine. Most "tactical competitors" who score well use 6mm or 6.5mm guns for their lighter recoil and great ballistic performance. </div></div>
Run the numbers...The 7mmRM pushing the 162's and 180's will give you equal to or better ballistic performance than the 338LM. The Lapua has alot more down range energy, but the 7mmRM has more than enough energy for most game in North America. The 7mmRM has a lot less felt recoil and you can get quality brass and bullets for almost 1/3 the price of the 338LM.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bignada</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Think I would go the other way.
A .280rem, Ackley Improved is more versatile and will yield longer barrel life. The .284 win is also a good choice especially in a long action if you plan to use the heavy match bullets, which you must to get the best Ballistic Coefficient performance.
Then again, look at the 6.5x55 if you are cool with a 140gr match bullet.
No real need to go magnum for 7mm precision.
If you want real longrange ballistic performance the .338 is the ticket, and a .338 win will work, or even better the .300win mag necked up to .338. The hornady 250gr bthp will give .650 BC heavier bullets even more BC... The 7mm 175gr smk is .498 BC iirc.
Look at the 6.5mm bullets if longrange precision is your goal. If you plan to shoot elk, you can probably use the magnum power and 7mm Rem will be fine. Most "tactical competitors" who score well use 6mm or 6.5mm guns for their lighter recoil and great ballistic performance. </div></div>
Run the numbers...The 7mmRM pushing the 162's and 180's will give you equal to or better ballistic performance than the 338LM. The Lapua has alot more down range energy, but the 7mmRM has more than enough energy for most game in North America. The 7mmRM has a lot less felt recoil and you can get quality brass and bullets for almost 1/3 the price of the 338LM.
Re: 7mm rem mag
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bignada</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Think I would go the other way.
A .280rem, Ackley Improved is more versatile and will yield longer barrel life. The .284 win is also a good choice especially in a long action if you plan to use the heavy match bullets, which you must to get the best Ballistic Coefficient performance.
Then again, look at the 6.5x55 if you are cool with a 140gr match bullet.
No real need to go magnum for 7mm precision.
If you want real longrange ballistic performance the .338 is the ticket, and a .338 win will work, or even better the .300win mag necked up to .338. The hornady 250gr bthp will give .650 BC heavier bullets even more BC... The 7mm 175gr smk is .498 BC iirc.
Look at the 6.5mm bullets if longrange precision is your goal. If you plan to shoot elk, you can probably use the magnum power and 7mm Rem will be fine. <span style="color: #FF0000">Most "tactical competitors" who score well use 6mm or 6.5mm guns for their lighter recoil and great ballistic performance.</span> </div></div>Sure...'till the wind picks up.
I'm a 7RM fan. I'm building a custom long range/tactical in 7RM and really looking forward to seeing how it performs. I've been hunting with a Ruger M77 Allweather in 7RM for years. Out of the box it was sub moa with Hornaday factory ammo, and all the rifle I've ever needed.The biggest complaint I hear is about the recoil and yes, at the end of a day at the range, you know you've been behind one, but heck...I'm 5'6, 160lbs...if I can take it anyone can.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bignada</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Think I would go the other way.
A .280rem, Ackley Improved is more versatile and will yield longer barrel life. The .284 win is also a good choice especially in a long action if you plan to use the heavy match bullets, which you must to get the best Ballistic Coefficient performance.
Then again, look at the 6.5x55 if you are cool with a 140gr match bullet.
No real need to go magnum for 7mm precision.
If you want real longrange ballistic performance the .338 is the ticket, and a .338 win will work, or even better the .300win mag necked up to .338. The hornady 250gr bthp will give .650 BC heavier bullets even more BC... The 7mm 175gr smk is .498 BC iirc.
Look at the 6.5mm bullets if longrange precision is your goal. If you plan to shoot elk, you can probably use the magnum power and 7mm Rem will be fine. <span style="color: #FF0000">Most "tactical competitors" who score well use 6mm or 6.5mm guns for their lighter recoil and great ballistic performance.</span> </div></div>Sure...'till the wind picks up.
I'm a 7RM fan. I'm building a custom long range/tactical in 7RM and really looking forward to seeing how it performs. I've been hunting with a Ruger M77 Allweather in 7RM for years. Out of the box it was sub moa with Hornaday factory ammo, and all the rifle I've ever needed.The biggest complaint I hear is about the recoil and yes, at the end of a day at the range, you know you've been behind one, but heck...I'm 5'6, 160lbs...if I can take it anyone can.
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steelcomp I can shoot a 7mm all day.... trust me anybody that played skeet or trap with a 12g knows what a hurt shoulder really means... american trap blasts 25 rounds per game, go play 10 games in a row and look at your bruises =)
steelcomp I can shoot a 7mm all day.... trust me anybody that played skeet or trap with a 12g knows what a hurt shoulder really means... american trap blasts 25 rounds per game, go play 10 games in a row and look at your bruises =)
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Talking about BC of a 7mm.
175 smk with a bc of .608
162 amax with bc of .625
180 berger hunt vld with .659
Talking about BC of a 7mm.
175 smk with a bc of .608
162 amax with bc of .625
180 berger hunt vld with .659
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