Re: Accuracy Systems, Inc.??? any experiences?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Chiller</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bodywerks</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well, what I'm basically looking for is a 20-24" heavy fluted barrel with 1/11ish twist, removable or disarmable muzzle brake, an ULTRA SMOOTH action with DBM, match trigger,and tactical knob - all bolted to an A5 style stock with adjustable LOP and cheek. I want the gun to come with a piece of paper that has a small single bughole in it, proving it is a tack driver, limited only by my ability to drive them. And I want it all for at or below $3k
In looking at Accuracy systems, the two rifles I mentioned could easily fit the bill it seems. To get that from AI looks like 5 large or more. Even GAP looks like $4k.
I'm in no way saying they aren't worth it, and I am sure there is more to them than meets the eye. But I am a fairly new shooter, with my most expensive rifle being a Savage FCP-K. Going from an $800 rifle to a $3k rifle is a big enough step for me for now. </div></div>
I will beg the question and please forgive it is not intended to be offensive.
1)What is your experience with long range rifles?
2)What is your intent?
3)How far have you shot?
4)How far do you intend to shoot?
5) ½ MOA guarantee means little if you are not a ½ MOA driver. Are you a ½ MOA driver?
6) What have you allocated in your $3k for optics?
This just begins to crack the surface. Your money and I invite you to spend it as you will. That being said the more I learn about tactical shooting the more I realize how vast the topic can be. You have already had some of the best names in the business chime into your thread. I would invite you to learn as much as you can and when you “pull the trigger” (pun intended) it will be form a position of information as opposed to what looks cool. My thoughts, YMMV
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Thank you for asking pertinent questions. Let me see:
1) Not sure what you are asking, but I have never owned a custom rifle. I am fairly new to long range shooting. My current 'long range rifle' is a bone-stock Savage FCP-k in .308. My intent is to shoot the shit out of it this year while also learning how to work up hand loads and further understand ballistics and bullet drop calculations, etc.
2)My intent is to shoot 1,000 yards with a certain amount of confidence. I have a 15" diameter gong. If I can hit it fairly consistently at that range I'd be happy. Of course, learning to dope for wind and other weather factors will be part of the fun and the challenge. They also have 1,000 yard competitions at the rifle club I belong to that I would like to participate in
3)510 meters(about 550 yards) is the furthest I have punched. On a good day I can kill clays at that distance 50/50. I put a 3 inch, 4 round group on steel at that distance. All with my bone-stock savage and factory match ammo.
4) Hell, 500 meters will keep me entertained for quite some time, and 1,000 yards looks like it will elude me for at least a year or two(or three or four or five
)! But given the opportunity, sure, I'd like to try a mile...
5)I think that I have what it takes, but I am by no means a 1/2moa badass mofo right now. I always shoot off a bipod and use my hand and/or body to control windage, elevation. I've never used sandbags or a fancy bench rest shoot-o-matic type device, but I have punched 1/2 MOA groups. Sure, their 3 rounds here, but I did it three different times on the same piece of paper with a rifle that only had 20 rounds through it - the last pic I think was a sub1/2 MOA group when I measured it:
6) $3k would be for the rifle, bipod, base, and rings only. I am currently shooting with Millet scopes until my Viper 6-24 PST shows up. If I like it I might just buy another. But I know all too well the "buy once, cry once" thought on scopes, so I would be willing to invest whatever necessary in glass to be able to see the targets I'm shooting at at 1,000 yards
