Accurate powder recall
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I think it is spontaneous combustion. But the part that got me was
"May release red gas/fumes when opened"
It does say that ammo already loaded should be okay.
It must have some reaction with oxygen or something in the air.
Healthy nitro powder has a tolerable, even pleasant, solvent smell - reminiscent of acetone or lacquer. If powder has a stinging/chocking smell, like nitric acid or releases yellowish/brownish fumes, dispose of it AT ONCE. Flush it down the toilet or sprinkle it on the law as fertilizer.
DO NOT put questionable powder back in your stash.
Unstable nitro-compounds are a bitch especially in larger quantities. At a minimum, you can have a very serious fire. Worst case scenario is that double-based powders with high nitroglycerine content like Bullseye, WW231, HP38 stored adjacently can detonate under the 'right' conditions. Reaching those conditions in a storage situation is extremely unlikely but for the potential consequences I can tell you from (legally obtained) experience that a pound of WW231 is just as good as a pound of commercial dynamite for breaking up a beaver dam.
The good news is that decomposing powder releases fumes that the sensor in the middle of our face can easily detect. If a powder starts to smell 'funky', get rid of it.
WARNING: The decomposition fumes are toxic. Do not stick your beak into the jug and inhale like a glue sniffer. Open the jug, fan the air above it towards your nose with your hand and if you get an unpleasant, chocking sensation, STOP.
DO NOT put questionable powder back in your stash.
Unstable nitro-compounds are a bitch especially in larger quantities. At a minimum, you can have a very serious fire. Worst case scenario is that double-based powders with high nitroglycerine content like Bullseye, WW231, HP38 stored adjacently can detonate under the 'right' conditions. Reaching those conditions in a storage situation is extremely unlikely but for the potential consequences I can tell you from (legally obtained) experience that a pound of WW231 is just as good as a pound of commercial dynamite for breaking up a beaver dam.
The good news is that decomposing powder releases fumes that the sensor in the middle of our face can easily detect. If a powder starts to smell 'funky', get rid of it.
WARNING: The decomposition fumes are toxic. Do not stick your beak into the jug and inhale like a glue sniffer. Open the jug, fan the air above it towards your nose with your hand and if you get an unpleasant, chocking sensation, STOP.
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Did Accurate recommend adding water to the jugs?
I would pour the dry content slowly in the toilet while flushing or sprinkle it thinly and wide-spread on the lawn. It is great fertilizer.
Toilet and lawn are still valid destinations.
It is interesting that Accurate recommends the opposite of common practice in chemistry. Normally you add a powdered solid to the liquid regardless if you want to create a solution or suspension. Think about what a lumpy mess pouring water onto chocolate powder creates compared to adding the powder to water.
I will give them a call to find out their reasoning behind that.
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Nevermind, these are rather coarse-grained, extruded powders so it's like adding water to a bed of sand.
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Dont flush it. Toilets are for piss, shit and toilet paper. Don't flush gun powder, drugs, your tampons, paper towels, etc. Treatment facilities have hell with this stuff and so do your downstream American neighbors. Wet down and sprinkle in the yard or if you live somewhere safe to do so, make a line, step back and ignite!
I contacted Accurate about almost a year ago in reference 2495, didnt not know that 4064 was added to list
Looked up Powder recall on hide search and here I am, on this thread.
Short version reloading room had " funny smell ", kept looking for source. Found a jug of 4064 swelling in cabinet, opened lid , ( I have 3 more 1lbs jugs ) the same orange fumes as 2495 from last year. Grabbed reload book to look up, what / when / where loads I had. Opened 20 mm ammo can , same smell, grabbed first 2 MTM 50 count boxes on top. No question if powder damages brass !!! Did not know load would sweet, I have seen old mil surplus ammo corrode brass to become brittle. The necks are so brittle that I can push bullet to the side with finger and the neck splits, several of had cracks at neck. The powder , in the rounds that have no vissible signs, is clumpy / sticky.
In my defense, I shot a bunch of those reloads late last fall, no sign or smell of break down. I store everything in sealed ammo cans with desicant packs etc, etc.
I am not looking forward to phone conversation tomorrow, I have a hell of alot of re- loads.
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Looked up Powder recall on hide search and here I am, on this thread.
Short version reloading room had " funny smell ", kept looking for source. Found a jug of 4064 swelling in cabinet, opened lid , ( I have 3 more 1lbs jugs ) the same orange fumes as 2495 from last year. Grabbed reload book to look up, what / when / where loads I had. Opened 20 mm ammo can , same smell, grabbed first 2 MTM 50 count boxes on top. No question if powder damages brass !!! Did not know load would sweet, I have seen old mil surplus ammo corrode brass to become brittle. The necks are so brittle that I can push bullet to the side with finger and the neck splits, several of had cracks at neck. The powder , in the rounds that have no vissible signs, is clumpy / sticky.
In my defense, I shot a bunch of those reloads late last fall, no sign or smell of break down. I store everything in sealed ammo cans with desicant packs etc, etc.
I am not looking forward to phone conversation tomorrow, I have a hell of alot of re- loads.
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