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The 2A sanctuary movement has to grow beyond Virginia.

More counties need to pass orders of militia.

Rural Sheriff’s need to deputize hundreds if not thousands of upstanding citizens.

The Dems( Communists) are playing for keeps.

They will steal your guns, wives, daughters, gold and land if you let them.

Look what they did to the Cossacks and White Russians during the Bolshevik uprising.

This is a new communist coup following the old playbook.

The Neo-Bolshevists are coming.
 
I think America may be different when they try rounding up men women and children.

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Yer hair is on fire.....The Left in Virginia is not your enemy - The *GOVERNMENT!* is your enemy in Virginia.


Get out of the Echo Chambers and start researching what is going on in Illinois, Virginia, and other States and stop hating on yer back ups.

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I'm more of a Centrist/Moderate and have no political affiliations. I am 20% Liberal and 20% Republican/Conservative, 60% none of the above and a Capitalist. But yer hating on The Left and calling all of them Communists and Socialists is all fucked up. I know a lot of Leftists and virtually *all* of them are pro 2A. Few are Democrats. Hate on The .GOV and leave the BS about Commies and Socialists to experts. Also...reading something not published on a Gun Forum might help you some.

"We, the undersigned, representing several groups of the anti-capitalist movement in Virginia, wish to make clear that we completely reject any attempt by the new Democrat majority state government to pass and enforce any new “gun control” laws. Liberals see the issue of guns and violence in abstraction. For them, taking away guns will end violence. However, as socialists, we understand that violence exists within the systems of exploitation and oppression inherent in the capitalist system. History shows us that these laws will do nothing to address the root causes of violence in our communities. They will, however, do a number of other things. "

VooDoo
 
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Yer hair is on fire.....The Left in Virginia is not your enemy - The *GOVERNMENT!* is your enemy in Virginia.


Get out of the Echo Chambers and start researching what is going on in Illinois, Virginia, and other States and stop hating on yer back ups.

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I'm more of a Centrist/Moderate and have no political affiliations. I am 20% Liberal and 20% Republican/Conservative, 60% none of the above and a Capitalist. But yer hating on The Left and calling all of them Communists and Socialists is all fucked up. I know a lot of Leftists and virtually *all* of them are pro 2A. Few are Democrats. Hate on The .GOV and leave the BS about Commies and Socialists to experts. Also...reading something not published on a Gun Forum might help you some.

VooDoo
Anyone who votes for today’s “democrats “ is a commie. Period.
 
Communists play for keeps.

Look at South Africa.

The commies there actually passed a law to seize land from Boers.

This is not just about guns. It’s about what they have in store for us after we are disarmed.

Commies will take everything until our women are raped, our towns our rubble and our farms are dust.
 
Communists play for keeps.

Look at South Africa.

The commies there actually passed a law to seize land from Boers.

This is not just about guns. It’s about what they have in store for us after we are disarmed.

Commies will take everything until our women are raped, our towns our rubble and our farms are dust.
South Africa wouldn’t have happened without outside forces forcing them to let the animals into gov and positions of power. The blood there is all over white liberals hands. From the us/U.K./etc.
 
Your pro 2A friends elected the Nancy piglosi, Diane Fienstien, Bernie Sanders, AOC, and the list goes on. Those they elected vote lock step with the whims of the communist party.
So you go right ahead and be comforted by their pro gun stance. Because they will be pointing a finger at you for one of their social agenda bullshit ideals and watch you get ruined and thy will not give a fuck.
Yer hair is on fire.....The Left in Virginia is not your enemy - The *GOVERNMENT!* is your enemy in Virginia.


Get out of the Echo Chambers and start researching what is going on in Illinois, Virginia, and other States and stop hating on yer back ups.

va-left-arm-the-people-not-the-state3e.jpg


I'm more of a Centrist/Moderate and have no political affiliations. I am 20% Liberal and 20% Republican/Conservative, 60% none of the above and a Capitalist. But yer hating on The Left and calling all of them Communists and Socialists is all fucked up. I know a lot of Leftists and virtually *all* of them are pro 2A. Few are Democrats. Hate on The .GOV and leave the BS about Commies and Socialists to experts. Also...reading something not published on a Gun Forum might help you some.

"We, the undersigned, representing several groups of the anti-capitalist movement in Virginia, wish to make clear that we completely reject any attempt by the new Democrat majority state government to pass and enforce any new “gun control” laws. Liberals see the issue of guns and violence in abstraction. For them, taking away guns will end violence. However, as socialists, we understand that violence exists within the systems of exploitation and oppression inherent in the capitalist system. History shows us that these laws will do nothing to address the root causes of violence in our communities. They will, however, do a number of other things. "

VooDoo
 
Agreed...the Dems are not Communists and the longer you persist in thinking that they are the longer you remain ignorant of what is going on here. Read some outside of Gun Forums and Ultra Right stuff. The Democrats aren't even a Liberal Party let alone Socialists or Communists....they are Authoritarians, true, and they want US disarmed but they are not Communists.

VooDoo
 
Bullshit. The Dems are coming to power by rigging and cheating. They were not elected by a majority in Virginia just like they are not being elected by majorities in Illinois. If this were true then how woyld you explain the *massive* turn outs of people pro 2A Sanctuary? If a majority elected the Dems whay would they now be turning out in droves to defy them?

Wake up.

VooDoo
 
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Semantics.
People understand communist.
Agreed...the Dems are not Communists and the longer you persist in thinking that they are the longer you remain ignorant of what is going on here. Read some outside of Gun Forums and Ultra Right stuff. The Democrats aren't even a Liberal Party let alone Socialists or Communists....they are Authoritarians, true, and they want US disarmed but they are not Communists.

VooDoo
 
Your friends still contribute to the vote tally.
Sounds like you are trying to comfort yourself.
Bullshit. The Dems are coming to power by rigging and cheating. They were not elected by a majority in Virginia just like they are not being elected by majorities in Illinois. If this were true then how woyld you explain the *massive* turn outs of people pro 2A Sanctuary? If a majority elected the Dems whay would they now be turning out in droves to defy them?

Wake up.

VooDoo
I have written it many times since the very first thread on Virginia.
Lazy people didn't vote, get involved or plain didn't care until it was too late.
Several of the seats were unopposed.
Were people preoccupied with the kids and their soccer game, ballet, softball? IDK but they fucked themselves.
 
Also...reading something not published on a Gun Forum might help you some.

Damn right.

Say they do outlaw guns in Virginia, in any state, across the country. Instead of going down to the PD and turning your stuff in, just don't. Sit on your porch, drink coffee, and enjoy the sunrise knowing that nobody is coming for your shit. There aren't enough people who believe this anti-gun stuff to effect any enforcement of it.

I think if we consider the numbers, this is akin to one ding-dong walking into an gun show with a bull horn and announcing, "All of you are under arrest. Line up over here and take a pair of cuffs out of this box and put them on." What do you see happening? A line forming or some "pffft," some laughter and more gun shopping?
 
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We will not comply. Not US Communists nor US Socialists...Not US Democrats (you have no idea how many Democrats I know who own guns) and not US Republicans. Not US Fascists, Nazi's, Antifa, anti Antifa, Liberals, Conservatives. Not US black people nor POC's....not US LGBTQ folks. None of US....

We. Will. Not. Comply.

That's all we have to say and do. Over and over and loudly. We will not comply - the ball is in their court. All I want is for folks on any side to stop hating on their fucking neighbors, read a little of something you did not know about yesterday, and look and see what is really happening. Then Wake, Eat, Range, Reload, Sleep and repeat.

VooDoo
 
Your friends still contribute to the vote tally.
Sounds like you are trying to comfort yourself.

I have written it many times since the very first thread on Virginia.
Lazy people didn't vote, get involved or plain didn't care until it was too late.
Several of the seats were unopposed.
Were people preoccupied with the kids and their soccer game, ballet, softball? IDK but they fucked themselves.
i've said the same thing since this started
 
South Africa wouldn’t have happened without outside forces forcing them to let the animals into gov and positions of power. The blood there is all over white liberals hands. From the us/U.K./etc.
don't kid yourself, there were plenty of colored hands in there also, Greed is color blind
 
You're too funny. But you gotta do what you gotta do to comfort yourself.
We will not comply. Not US Communists nor US Socialists...Not US Democrats (you have no idea how many Democrats I know who own guns) and not US Republicans. Not US Fascists, Nazi's, Antifa, anti Antifa, Liberals, Conservatives. Not US black people nor POC's....not US LGBTQ folks. None of US....

We. Will. Not. Comply.

That's all we have to say and do. Over and over and loudly. We will not comply - the ball is in their court. All I want is for folks on any side to stop hating on their fucking neighbors, read a little of something you did not know about yesterday, and look and see what is really happening. Then Wake, Eat, Range, Reload, Sleep and repeat.

VooDoo
Sing Kumbayah (sp?) A few times or maybe the Coke and a smile song and everything will be fine.
 
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Damn right.

Say they do outlaw guns in Virginia, in any state, across the country. Instead of going down to the PD and turning your stuff in, just don't. Sit on your porch, drink coffee, and enjoy the sunrise knowing that nobody is coming for your shit. There aren't enough people who believe this anti-gun stuff to effect any enforcement of it.

I think if we consider the numbers, this is akin to one ding-dong walking into an gun show with a bull horn and announcing, "All of you are under arrest. Line up over here and take a pair of cuffs out of this box and put them on." What do you see happening? A line forming or some "pffft," some laughter and more gun shopping?
If only it was that simple but that just is not the reality of the situation. “Just don’t” is correct but that will not help many of us. Specifically those of us with NFA items. Our names are on a list that does not go away AND is supposed to be updated when we move.

“Just don’t” is the same as hunters thinking the gun grabbers won’t come for them.
 
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Look, I get that it may seem like a "just sit on your hands" or "put your head in the sand" response. But, think about it. Who is going to enforce this?

I have NFA stuff, too. I moved from one state to another with it all. Both NFA friendly states, I admit, but in over a decade of ownership, the ATF has never contacted me. In fact, I'd been in the new state over a year before I ever sent my paperwork notifying them of the move. No repercussion. No questions. The ATF is not our problem, nor will they be.

Who are these "gun grabbers" I keep hearing of?
 
My info is third hand and sketchy. I believe a similar activities are coming to Phoenix Monday, and that our own Governor is turning RINO and making ominous sounds. I also think there may be an amplified LE presence, etc.

Also in Phoenix is a group called the John Brown Gun Club.

Watch out you people in VA, these folks also have a chapter in Charlotte.

Greg
 
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My info is third hand and sketchy. I believe a similar activities are coming to Phoenix Monday, and that our own Governor is turning RINO and making ominous sounds. I also think there may be an amplified LE presence, etc.

Also in Phoenix is a group called the John Brown Gun Club.

Watch out you people in VA, these folks also have a chapter in Charlotte.

Greg
Be wary of the John Brown Gun Club types. Yes, they are pro-2A because they are militants that need the guns to carry out their intimidation tactics.
 
Be wary of the John Brown Gun Club types. Yes, they are pro-2A because they are militants that need the guns to carry out their intimidation tactics.

John Brown Gun clubs are 100% ANTIFA linked. Steer clear. These are the armed brown shirts... the SS of the Uber left.

Stay far away!

Sirhr
 
John Brown Gun clubs are 100% ANTIFA linked. Steer clear. These are the armed brown shirts... the SS of the Uber left.

Stay far away!

Sirhr
I’ve already had contact with these people where I shoot. They were being careless and unsafe. They are more likely to shoot each other than anybody else. When I approached them about it, they basically said fuck off. What are you going to do about it? Rather than instigate a firefight out in the desert, 35 miles from town - I withdrew.
 
Communists play for keeps.

Look at South Africa.

The commies there actually passed a law to seize land from Boers.

This is not just about guns. It’s about what they have in store for us after we are disarmed.

Commies will take everything until our women are raped, our towns our rubble and our farms are dust.

SA been fucked since the early 80's and many songs wrote about it between SA and jolly ol England

 
I don't care whether they call themselves communists, marxists, liberals, progressives or whatever the flavor of the month is after their results destroy all the branding efforts they've put into last months flavor. They are collectivists of one stripe or another, all just different shades of red.

At the heart of their ideology is reserving unto themselves the right to reserve a completely different definition for words and phrases that have had commonly understood definitions for centuries. This is Dialectical Materialism right out of the Communist Manifesto playbook. Everyone else calls this lying.

Shall not be infringed becomes ask permission, pay a fee, wait as long as it takes and accept that we might say no, it is entirely at our absolute discretion. Forbidding the siezure of property without due process becomes redistribution of wealth. The all inclusive enumeration of limited powers becomes we can do whatever we want.

Looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck - it's duck season.

They either uphold the Constitution - all of it - all the time - or they are willing and active subversives. Corruption is like pregnancy in that it is impossible to be just a little bit pregnant. You either are or you are not.
 
Don’t kid yourselves.

The Democrat party has been taken over by communists who are intent on destroying the United States.

They will use the government to confiscate our wealth and property in order to reward party members.

They will encourage rape and violence against “deplorables” and Trump voters.

Look at Sweden or South Africa where the rape and murder of women is used as a weapon of genocide.

It’s already happening in the US with the sanctuary cities that allow illegals to run wild.
 
Look, I get that it may seem like a "just sit on your hands" or "put your head in the sand" response. But, think about it. Who is going to enforce this?

I have NFA stuff, too. I moved from one state to another with it all. Both NFA friendly states, I admit, but in over a decade of ownership, the ATF has never contacted me. In fact, I'd been in the new state over a year before I ever sent my paperwork notifying them of the move. No repercussion. No questions. The ATF is not our problem, nor will they be.

Who are these "gun grabbers" I keep hearing of?
You are are missing the point entirely. No one said the ATF was the enemy, now or in the future. What I said was that a list exists for people that own NFA items along with location. That is low hanging fruit if, and when, a confiscation occurs. NFA items are the most evil items a gun owner could have. What group would the average “citizen” be concerned about least when it comes to confiscation? The owners of NFA items. Who needs a machine gun? Who needs a suppressor? Or a short barreled rifle? Again, easy pickings.

Who are the gun grabbers? How about asking the folks in New Zealand, they can tell you. Can’t reach anyone there? Try Venezuela.
 
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Bullshit. The Dems are coming to power by rigging and cheating. They were not elected by a majority in Virginia just like they are not being elected by majorities in Illinois. If this were true then how woyld you explain the *massive* turn outs of people pro 2A Sanctuary? If a majority elected the Dems whay would they now be turning out in droves to defy them?

Wake up.

VooDoo
Y’all need to do something about it! If the Virginians know they stole your elections, well, put up or shut up! If y’all are gonna just bend over and let them fuck you and do nothing, that’s on y’all !
 
No, dude. I'm not missing your point.

My question, yet unanswered, is my point. You concede the ATF won't be the problem but harp on NFA.

Those countries aren't like us. They're not made of people who've embodied the spirit of right and freedom, and they surrendered their stuff. They're living in the world they rolled over and allowed.

So, who are the gun grabbers? The turds who fight for using the wrong bathroom, or who?
 
No, dude. I'm not missing your point.

My question, yet unanswered, is my point. You concede the ATF won't be the problem but harp on NFA.

Those countries aren't like us. They're not made of people who've embodied the spirit of right and freedom, and they surrendered their stuff. They're living in the world they rolled over and allowed.

So, who are the gun grabbers? The turds who fight for using the wrong bathroom, or who?
Wow, I find this discussion mind numbing. “Those countries are not like us” is a famous last sentence along the same lines “It won’t happen here”. It is lazy and myopic. Who will be the gun grabbers? Who are they currently? Who enforces Red Flag laws? Who takes the weapons when a man is accused of assaulting his wife? Who pushes for more and more gun laws? Just in case the answer is not apparent the grabbers in the US will be the SAME as those that have done that through history. Just to make sure I am not being vague - the GOVERNMENT. Now, in case that is to broad for you - who will the government have do the grunt work? Government employees either presently employed or future hires. Please don’t regurgitate anything about their oath to the Constitution.

How many people in this country embody the spirit of whatever you said? Way fewer than you think. If that is vague look at the popular vote during the last presidential election. If you don’t see the correlation then that is on you.

As far as harping on the NFA goes, again you don’t get it and nothing I post will change that.

This is boiling down to the classic dichotomy of one group being incredulous to the fact that history always repeats itself and one group that accepts that it can.
 
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Be wary of the John Brown Gun Club types. Yes, they are pro-2A because they are militants that need the guns to carry out their intimidation tactics.


Yes they use the very institutions that safeguard their rights in order to attempt to destroy those institutions...

Their reckoning will be coming, ignited by their own actions. And it will be swift, hot, and unforgiving.
 
No, dude. I'm not missing your point.

My question, yet unanswered, is my point. You concede the ATF won't be the problem but harp on NFA.

Those countries aren't like us. They're not made of people who've embodied the spirit of right and freedom, and they surrendered their stuff. They're living in the world they rolled over and allowed.

So, who are the gun grabbers? The turds who fight for using the wrong bathroom, or who?


I am certain that there are plenty of law enforcers who are just and are dedicated to upholding the values of this country. However, self interest is also an extremely powerful motivation and many will choose a paycheck, pension, medical benefits, and other perks over any non tangible ideal of Constitution and the rights of their fellow man. The statist politicians who are hell bent on disarmament know this to an art form and they will exploit this human weakness to the maximum for their gain. We have already seen this in action with numerous red flag orders being carried out purely on the word of a greedy family member, or guns being seized from travelers in cities like New York just because they did not realize that their CCL's are not valid in that region.
 
Bullshit. The Dems are coming to power by rigging and cheating. They were not elected by a majority in Virginia just like they are not being elected by majorities in Illinois. If this were true then how woyld you explain the *massive* turn outs of people pro 2A Sanctuary? If a majority elected the Dems whay would they now be turning out in droves to defy them?

Wake up.

VooDoo
Your friends still contribute to the vote tally.
Sounds like you are trying to comfort yourself.

I have written it many times since the very first thread on Virginia.
Lazy people didn't vote, get involved or plain didn't care until it was too late.
Several of the seats were unopposed.
Were people preoccupied with the kids and their soccer game, ballet, softball? IDK but they fucked themselves.
You are both correct. It is common for our side to loose momentum and not do things such as vote and rally around a cause such as we are seeing in Virginia. But at the same time that laziness cost us because we are not voting multiple times, we are not voting on behalf of the dead, and we are not aiding illegal immigrants to vote for us either.

We have a steep uphill battle to take back this country without blood shead, but we are taking that hill like a morbidly obese guy that has to take a break walking to the kitchen
 
Mind numbing alright... I'd hoped this would stay civil and objective, but I can see where it's going. We're all on the same team, right?

I don’t think so. I think we all have the same hope, that the 2A will be protected and preserved, but different perspectives on the role we will play in the process. Being on the same team means being part of the same process not simply sharing the same objective.

To be honest, I would prefer things go down your path instead of mine.
 
Adversarial.......

Life vs death....
Right vs wrong....
Any sporting event....
The legal system....
Politics....
My dog vs your dog....
Natural selection and the pack pecking order....
Tribe vs tribe....
Ford vs Chevy....
Cultural survival....
Po-tae-toe vs pah-taa-toe....
Giver vs taker....
Follower vs Leader....
Wolf vs sheep....
Quick vs dead....
Smart vs stupid....
Those who stand up vs those who roll over....

It is what it is, its atomic structure DNA deep inside from birth.

My dog IS better than your dog.
My dad can whip your dad.
My mom looks better than yours.
My sister is smarter than yours.
My girlfriend is prettier than yours.
My car is faster than yours.
My truck is 'more boss' than yours.
My stuff is better than yours.
My team is better than yours (Alabama vs Auburn)....
My Remington is better than your Savage....
My Leupold is better than your tasco....
My 45 is better than your 9mm....
My 6.5GT is better than your 308....
My moa is better than your mil....
My argument is better than yours....
I can whip your ass.... (oops sometimes ?)

It NEVER ends.

Life IS adversarial.

If YMV's, you may have a surprise coming. VR

Doesn't mean we cant get along.... make the right choice.
You can only take what I'm willing to give up.
 
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South Africa wouldn’t have happened without outside forces forcing them to let the animals into gov and positions of power. The blood there is all over white liberals hands. From the us/U.K./etc.

Yeah, boy, it's always them damned race traitors, ain't it?

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Adversarial.......

Life vs death....
Right vs wrong....
Any sporting event....
The legal system....
Politics....
My dog vs your dog....
Natural selection and the pack pecking order....
Tribe vs tribe....
Ford vs Chevy....
Cultural survival....
Po-tae-toe vs pah-taa-toe....
Giver vs taker....
Follower vs Leader....
Wolf vs sheep....
Quick vs dead....
Smart vs stupid....
Those who stand up vs those who roll over....

It is what it is, its atomic structure DNA deep inside from birth.

My dog IS better than your dog.
My dad can whip your dad.
My mom looks better than yours.
My sister is smarter than yours.
My girlfriend is prettier than yours.
My car is faster than yours.
My truck is 'more boss' than yours.
My stuff is better than yours.
My team is better than yours (Alabama vs Auburn)....
My Remington is better than your Savage....
My Leupold is better than your tasco....
My 45 is better than your 9mm....
My 6.5GT is better than your 308....
My moa is better than your mil....
My argument is better than yours....
I can whip your ass.... (oops sometimes ?)

It NEVER ends.

Life IS adversarial.

If YMV's, you may have a surprise coming. VR

Doesn't mean we cant get along.... make the right choice.
You can only take what I'm willing to give up.
You had to go to Remington vs Savage. Couldn't keep it civil. Just had to push the buttons. What's next 9mm vs .45 or maybe MIL vs MOA? :D:D:D
 
Folks, all the bickering in this thread is largely based on false dichotomies. You assume that it is 'either' - 'or'.

The enemies of individual rights and freedoms are:

ever expanding governments
AND
apathy
AND
communist/socialists
AND
the free shit army
AND
identity politics / race mongering
AND
the globalists
AND
the PC snowflakes
AND
corrupt, self serving politicians
AND
fudds who think that nobody will come after them
AND
... the list goes on.

So pick you favorite pet peaves, work against those and don't bicker with your 'brothers in arms', with people who have the same OBJECTIVE but may prefer different tools or strategies.
 
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Our two party system is designed to stay a two party system through campaign finance laws. That leaves us with only two choices on election day - evil vs less evil. The democrat party that was once for the working middle class man 50 years ago is long gone. It has been hijacked by globalist wealth re-distributionists and America haters. The majority of the republican party is spineless and beholden to the Chamber of Commerce big donors who could care less about the middle class wage earners here at home. Cheap labor by offshoring our manufacturing base is their number one goal, which ties in nicely with the enviro-whacko wing of the democrat party pushing for no more pollution here in our own backyard.

The democrat party is the most dangerous threat to our republic right now. They are hell bent on destroying it from within. It is blatantly obvious they don't care how much voter fraud it takes to win. Any gun owning liberal that still votes democrat is destroying the republic, and should be considered as aiding and abetting the enemy.

The only way to get the republicans back on track is to get the voter participation jacked way up in the primaries. Way too many voters miss this opportunity as a way to get the right candidates on the general election ballot. I vote against Flimsy Grahamnesty in every primary that he is up in. If he still makes it to the ballot in the general election, I just leave that vote blank as our state election laws require us to vote straight ticket. To hell with his red flag law loving ass. He's a damn traitor just like his mentor McStain.
 
Nothing gets people pulling a wagon the same direction better than “us vs them”.
 
The only way to get the republicans back on track is to get the voter participation jacked way up in the primaries. Way too many voters miss this opportunity as a way to get the right candidates on the general election ballot. I vote against Flimsy Grahamnesty in every primary that he is up in. If he still makes it to the ballot in the general election, I just leave that vote blank as our state election laws require us to vote straight ticket. To hell with his red flag law loving ass. He's a damn traitor just like his mentor McStain.

This right here!

The war for the soul of the Republican Party will be won or lost in the primaries. Grahamnesty talks a good game - every sixth year. The rest of the time he votes in lockstep with the rest of the Quisling and Collaborator wing of the party. And since McCain died he has become their standard bearer.
 
Just thinking out loud here. My parents both served in WWII. My dad was a flight mechanic in the navy and flew B-24s on anti-sub patrol out of England. My mother was a nurse in the army nurse corp also in England. Both were early 20 or so. That generation experienced sacrifice and understood that there were things and causes greater than themselves. Every generation since has had it easier and easier. The current generation is so far removed from what my parents experienced they have no concept of what real sacrifice is. Now, before anyone lights up my hind-parts, those who serve in the military, law enforcement, first responders, doctors/nurses, etc., certainly do. But as a whole, most in this country don't.

Our schools are not teaching history and civics and are more about indoctrination than teaching life skills. Too many today want to be taken care of instead of taking care of themselves. In essence we, as a country, have grown soft. The lessons from history are there for everyone to see concerning what happens to such countries. Rome fell from within. It had decayed so badly it had no will to fight once their enemies were at the front door. I have to wonder if that is where we are as a country. Not talking about the members here as I believe we understand the gravity of our times. Nevertheless, I have to wonder what is going to happen to my state (Virginia) and this country. Our political parties are too corrupt to depend on anymore, if we ever could. Where does that leave us? My grandfather was a doughboy and fought in WWI. He and my parents always said war was horrible and hoped it would never come to this country. I do not take talk of civil war lightly and believe we have been in something of a cold civil war for some time. Is that where we are headed? I pray not but I'm afraid it may very well be. May God help us.
 
Governor must of told his fellow politicians that he has the courage to poke the bear and not to worry for the bear would coward and run for the hills. Virginians will have a opportunity to prove this metaphor true or not.