Rifle Scopes Aimpoint on an AR w/Front Site

[ArcticLight]

Got an Aimpoint CompM2 from a fellow hide member - mounted it but I see the front site clear as day in it...

How do you work around that? Is this a mount thing?

I like having the front sight as I have a carry handle/sights as back up.

 

[Erud]

Re: Aimpoint on an AR w/Front Site

Your mount looks a little low to me. With the right height mount, the red dot should sit right on top of your front sight post when you look through. Some folks like the lower 1/3 co-witness for an Aimpoint, but I like the center co-witness as it feels more natural to me for head position/cheek weld. LaRue make great mounts in either height as do others.

Good luck,
Erik

 

[USMCj]

Re: Aimpoint on an AR w/Front Site

You could install a YHM flip up sight, they are not expensive, rsdy to install and work very well. I have on on my AR.

 

[USMCj]

Re: Aimpoint on an AR w/Front Site

Here is a link, 2nd one down http://www.yankeehillmachine.com/store/sights.html

 

[Guest]

Re: Aimpoint on an AR w/Front Site

Looks to me like that would be a pretty uncomfortable cheek weld.

I'm a fan of the Larue cantilever mount. Easy on/off, and leaves tons of room for any buis.

http://stores.homestead.com/Laruetactical/Detail.bok?no=37

Plus you don't have to dick with removing those damn pins on the old FSB and leveling a new one

. Cost is about the same. I just depends on if you want the red dot only or the added front post/dot co-witnessed. Personally, I like running the irons zeroed for up close, and the Aimpoint at 100, but that's just me.

 

[steelcomp]

Re: Aimpoint on an AR w/Front Site

Raise your Aimpoint a little, (I prefer the 1/3 co witness)and then as you get used to looking through it with both eyes and focusing on your target, you'll look past the front sight and after a while it won't even be a factor. At least that's my experience. Eventually, you can even close the front lens cap and using both eyes, still use the red dot effectively.

 

[427Cobra]

Re: Aimpoint on an AR w/Front Site

Go with the lower 1/3 co-witness mount like a LaRue, don't get sucked into the same plane co-witness BS, any benefit the Aimpoint/EoTech has in the speed of target aquiring is lost.

 

[LS6TT]

Re: Aimpoint on an AR w/Front Site

so if you have a front iron site and a red dot the dot should sit above the iron site? will that make it automatically zero'd?

 

[ArcticLight]

Re: Aimpoint on an AR w/Front Site

OK You guys got me confused - co-witness mount?

I like the standard AR front sight so that's not changing -


Got a link - Larue is a mfg?


This is all new...

 

[sobrbiker883]

Re: Aimpoint on an AR w/Front Site

The mount you have is the Aimpoint QRP mount. Aimpoint makes a spacer and longer sscrews that goes in that mount under the body of the sight to raise it so that when you look through your irons the dot will line up centered in the sight (this is referred to as an "absolute cowitness"). Without a spacer the QRP mount usually superimposes the dot on the front sight base when you have a good cheekweld, or in the top third of the sight (defeating the field of view) if you are lined up on the irons.

Other mounts run a little higher so that when you look through the irons the dot will be in the lower third of the sight(referred to as "lower third cowitness), and when you are shooting heads up looking both eyes open through the sight you will be looking over the irons at the target.

And yes, if your rifle/carbine's irons are zeroed you can slap an Aimpoint (or other red dot that co-witnesses) on and use the irons to zero the dot.

If anyone knows where to get a spacer cheap I could use one as well as Artic Light, I just got an M2 with that mount on a trade without the spacer.

Artic Light-you may want to double check that who you got it from doesn't still have the spacer and screws. When issued as the M68 CCO optic by uncle sugar, they come with that mount and spacer (and a goodeneck mount for fixed carry handle A2's).

 

[427Cobra]

Re: Aimpoint on an AR w/Front Site

I perfer this mount, http://stores.homestead.com/Laruetactical/Detail.bok?no=37

 

[LS6TT]

Re: Aimpoint on an AR w/Front Site

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sobrbiker883</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
And yes, if your rifle/carbine's irons are zeroed you can slap an Aimpoint (or other red dot that co-witnesses) on and use the irons to zero the dot.
</div></div>

do you lay the dot directly over the front iron or sit the dot right on top of the front iron?

 

[sobrbiker883]

Re: Aimpoint on an AR w/Front Site

Depends how yo zero your irons-put the dot right where you put the bull you zeroed your irons to. That is, if you have the POI for the bullet right on the top of the fron pst, put the dot there, if you zero so the top of the front post is just under the the bullet's strike then put the dod above the front.

Either way will work for a "just in case" civilian self defense encounter before you can get to the range to really verify the dot's zero.

 

[sobrbiker883]

Re: Aimpoint on an AR w/Front Site

LaRue's are very nice mounts, and by all means if you've got the dough they are one of the best ways to go.
I'm looking for a spcer and bolts because I'm broke like a mofo and need to use what I gots!

 

[LS6TT]

Re: Aimpoint on an AR w/Front Site

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sobrbiker883</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Depends how yo zero your irons-put the dot right where you put the bull you zeroed your irons to. That is, if you have the POI for the bullet right on the top of the fron pst, put the dot there, if you zero so the top of the front post is just under the the bullet's strike then put the dod above the front.

Either way will work for a "just in case" civilian self defense encounter before you can get to the range to really verify the dot's zero. </div></div>

outstanding, thanks.

 

[john2000]

Re: Aimpoint on an AR w/Front Site

Would highly recommend you try moving the Aimpoint further forward, preferrably as far as it will go on the flattop.
Shooting/aiming with both eyes open, this will increase the FOV and enhance the impression that the dot is "floating mid-air" with less interference from the tube.
To me it also seems like I pick up the target faster when it is mounted all the way forward (on the flattop itself that is)

Have shot this setup quite a bit on 416s(comp m2) and civ. AR(comp m3) and it works for me anyway.

John - out

 

[ArcticLight]

Re: Aimpoint on an AR w/Front Site

OK I moved the Aimpiont further and the red dot is now about 3/4 up from bottom of scope but RIGHT on the tip of my front sight.

I assume this is normal then?

Very nice unit, going to do this to the Trijicon too, had a blurry reticle on it unless it was at that distance.

 

[sobrbiker883]

Re: Aimpoint on an AR w/Front Site

Not uncommon for an Aimpoint to be pretty close to perfectly seroed from one AR to another.

Being 3/4 of the way up the sight is what a higher mount will alleviate. Most find they can "scan" through the sight acquiring targets when the dot is centered or in the bottom 1/3 of the field of view.

 

[RebelRouser]

Re: Aimpoint on an AR w/Front Site

We always called it "lollipoping." Kind of a quick zero till we could get to the range and actually zero it. Since I don't think it is truely parralax free there will be deviation till you zero at distance.