Looks like we might see some American made match again.
Mike
Mike
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Sorry to bust y'er bubble...but zoom in on those pics.
There's a freaking monster chip missing on the bottom most bullet
and the other three show dents, dings and visibly irregular drive bands.
That's typical Federal made 22lr.
Those are the images chosen to sell the product?
Truth in advertising, eh?
There's a freaking monster chip missing on the bottom most bullet
and the other three show dents, dings and visibly irregular drive bands.
That's typical Federal made 22lr.
Those are the images chosen to sell the product?
Truth in advertising, eh?
I just hope they can keep up with demand and production.
SK+ at $600/case seems to be worth the price difference.
No American company unfortunately makes anything close to match grade 22 these days.
on occasion you may stumble into a decent lot of CCI standard, but it is pretty rare. If you want match grade accuracy only the Europeans seem to do it right.
on occasion you may stumble into a decent lot of CCI standard, but it is pretty rare. If you want match grade accuracy only the Europeans seem to do it right.
I’ve got some FGMM rimfire ammo.
Nobody winning gold medals with that shit.
Should be false advertising.
Nobody winning gold medals with that shit.
Should be false advertising.
I've still got several boxes of the German-made (RWS?) Federal UltraMatch (UM22) that was being sold-off at decent prices by several wholesalers a few years ago. The order I bought was from Midway, and included three different lots of it. I've tried it in several of my custom barreled rifles, and in an Anschutz 2011 with the factory barrel, but it didn't shoot as good as a very good lot of SK Std+ in any of those rifles. IIRC, I paid $10/box of 50 for it, which was higher than what I'd seen it advertised for at other outlets - but Midway was the only place I could find it when I finally decided to try some of it. It looks like quality ammo, and I remember several guys here who liked it, so I'm assuming that my experience with it isn't typical. Too bad there isn't a good, steady supply of ammo at least as good as this stuff was rumored to be today...
15-20 yrs back when FGMM was in the white-blue-gold box it was darn good ammo. I recall whining about paying 32 a brick for it. I bought a case of newer FGMM and it was a waste of good money in the designated rifle, it was cheap by todays prices though, this was 2yrs ago
No clue, I have never had any RWS product in my hands, nor sought one out. I need to though.That is probably this repackaged. I use it for nrl22/rimfire prs
Mike
The Federal match ammo discontinued a year or two ago was manufactured under subcontract by RWS and was made on the R50 product line to FEDERAL SPECS.
Hmmmmmm....Federal specs, eh?
What would that be?
We need ya' to make us some 22lr that's better'n ours.
Fewer dents, dings, scratches and tighter muzzle velocities with fewer strays.
Oh, and put it in a box with Federal prominent on the outside.
If you look on the end flap of the box, y'er gonna find R50 in tiny print.
What would that be?
We need ya' to make us some 22lr that's better'n ours.
Fewer dents, dings, scratches and tighter muzzle velocities with fewer strays.
Oh, and put it in a box with Federal prominent on the outside.
If you look on the end flap of the box, y'er gonna find R50 in tiny print.
Hmm - wonder how many different iterations of UM22 were imported? The only thing printed on the end flaps of the boxes I got from Midway was the standard warning about "Dangerous within 1-1/2 miles" - on both ends of the box. The only reference I found to being made in Germany was on the side of the box with the bar code, where it said "Made in Germany, Imported in the USA by Federal Cartridge Co"
R50 shot horrible in my rifle but any lot of UM22 shot great. I wish we could still get it as it was priced right and shot great. I think I might have a box left. I will have to look in the flap when I get home.
R50 didnt shoot well in my vudoo at all
Now the question I like to ask is....
Do you actually think it was due to rifle preference,
or was it the quality of the cartridges you were sold?
If you think all cartridges are identical as they come off the assembly line,
then sure, it was rifle preference. But if it was a box of cartridges
that slipped past the statistical sampling done during quality control testing
then you ended up on the losing side of the assembly line lottery.
So is it brand preference, or just a box of substandard ammo you tried?
Now the question I like to ask is....
Do you actually think it was due to rifle preference,
or was it the quality of the cartridges you were sold?
If you think all cartridges are identical as they come off the assembly line,
then sure, it was rifle preference. But if it was a box of cartridges
that slipped past the statistical sampling done during quality control testing
then you ended up on the losing side of the assembly line lottery.
So is it brand preference, or just a box of substandard ammo you tried?
truthfully i didnt put that much time into it, its 22lr ammoR50 didnt shoot well in my vudoo at all
Now the question I like to ask is....
Do you actually think it was due to rifle preference,
or was it the quality of the cartridges you were sold?
If you think all cartridges are identical as they come off the assembly line,
then sure, it was rifle preference. But if it was a box of cartridges
that slipped past the statistical sampling done during quality control testing
then you ended up on the losing side of the assembly line lottery.
So is it brand preference, or just a box of substandard ammo you tried?
i bought SK, RWS Laupa, wolf
prob 2 lot of each some maybe more
i was just buying what was out there over a few weeks so i could shoot the accurate stuff and let the kids play with the lesser
wolf extra match shot insanely well, at 100 for 6 of the 10 would actually touch then 1-2 would always drop off, i have a video around here somewhere
RWS just didnt shoot well at all
SK is second best
center -x is most consistent from in my rifle
weather it was a friday box, bad QA, my rifle, me etc
center-x has been my choice
its 22lr...not worth the testing and sweating, if i want to shoot one hole im not using rimfire anyway
I hear that, Brian.
