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Rifle Scopes american defense mount for 34mm premire heritage?

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first off i have read the how to mesure ring hight sticky more than a few times. i tried to take my measurements accurately with less then great results. so i thought id ask here..

i want to use a qd american defense mount. i have read alot of good things about adm.

- i have a premire hereitage 3-15x with a 34mm tube and 50mm objective that i need to mount on a vltor cas-v m14 rail ( basicaly a long top rail just like the one on your ar platform) i want to get the 50mm objective as close to rail as i can to help out with the m14's cheek weld. it needs to be low ....almost touching the rail with the obective lens while leaving one or two milometers clearance for caps. also the premeir is vey large in the turret area so the american defence mount would need enoungh space inbetween its rings to accomodate the large premire

http://m14forum.com/modern-m14/84359-new-vltor-rail-4.html

the optic mounts on the back of the rail...so you can see how it needs to clear over top the front of the rail. rather than simply going with a high mount....i want to get as close to that rail as i can possibly get with a 50mm objective with out running into problems. any help here guys? any advise? thanks.

-ken
 
#2
Re: american defense mount for 34mm premire heritage?

Really? Nobody? Are we all too busy answering ffp vs sfp questions right now?
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#3
Re: american defense mount for 34mm premire heritage?

The AD mounts are very well done , very reliable return to zero and rock solid , I have some of them mounted on my ar/mbr boomstickS and I'm qUite happy with them even if I prefer solid rings and not quick detachable ones on my sniper rifles .

PP out
 
#4
Re: american defense mount for 34mm premire heritage?

I would consider other options.That scope has allot of mass for that type of mount IMO.Consider the new Badger unimount or something similar.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dmg308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would consider other options.That scope has allot of mass for that type of mount IMO.Consider the new Badger unimount or something similar. </div></div>

I would agree. I know many have zero issues with the ADM mount but it is the light weight of the mounts out there. The weight of your optics and recoil of the host weapon may test it. Badger does make a very nice unimount. Did you want quick detach or no-so quick hex nut detach???
 
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Ive personally owned 3 Recon X's, 1 Scout X, and 1 T-1 mount...QD'd them numerous times and never once lost a single zero.
 
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nothing against adm mounts, but take a look at the sphur mounts. lots of options to get it low, might be worth looking at....and they are just perrrdy
 
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If you want your Premier to look like the Razor setup photo in the thread link you provided, the standard height ADM will be way too high. So your only option is the SL "Super Low" Recon...this model raises the scope from the top of the rail to the centerline of the optic 1.19" in the 34mm ring model. Or, 0.52" or 13.2mm from the top of the rail to the bottom of the scope tube.

Premier lists the 3-15x50 Heritage with an OD on the bell of 57mm, so with a 34mm tube total offset is 23mm, and the lower half gives you 11.5mm.

Thus, without the cap, you have about 1.7mm to play with on the objective end.. That rail attenuates right in front of the rear sight so clearance of the ocular is a question since I don't know how much that Vltor rail raises the scope above the receiver, but the ADM SL34 mount will raise the ocular tube 7.7mm above the top of the rail

Looks like it is worth a shot!

Scott


 
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spuhr mount for 34mm premire heritage+m14+casv14

You guys are right. The adm mounts do look a little on the light side for my aplication. I think I am going to go with a spuhr mount instead. Thanks libery optics! That was helpfull. Yes, I do want my objective bell to be almost touching the rail. For my aplication lower is better. I don't think the ocular bell will be any trouble. I'm pretty sure the vltor rail puts it high enough. So I need to be looking at low mounts to get the premier hereitage close to the rail? Tnvc says I can have the spuhr mount in either 1.73", 1.46", 1.38", or 1.18". But where do they take there measurments at and how does that translate to the measurements that libery optics just gave me? Is 1.18" going to be too low to fit that objective bell over the front of the rail? What if it has a 20 moa cant? Thanks for all the help so far guys. I'm pretty lost here.
 
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Re: spuhr mount for 34mm premire heritage+m14+casv14

Hi

Our standard picatinny mounts comes as 1,18 and 1,46".
Measured from top of rail to center of scope.
If you use a 0 moa mount the scope bell will with the 1,18" mount be 1,5 (0,06") above the rail.
If you chose a tilted 1,18" mount you will get a collision.....

Håkan
 
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Re: spuhr mount for 34mm premire heritage+m14+casv14

I had an IOR 3-18 in an ADM mount and it held it just fine. Your premier can't be much heavier than that. However if I were you I'd just get rings you have a continuous top rail to work with and not worried about eye relief. I know Warne makes some of their QD rings in 34mm, I've had their 30MM on a magnum for awhile without an issue but they may be hard to find.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pinco Palla</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The AD mounts are very well done , very reliable return to zero and rock solid</div></div>

Not so much on the RTZ part in the mount I tested.
 
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Re: spuhr mount for 34mm premire heritage+m14+casv14

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Spuhr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hi

Our standard picatinny mounts comes as 1,18 and 1,46".
Measured from top of rail to center of scope.
If you use a 0 moa mount the scope bell will with the 1,18" mount be 1,5 (0,06") above the rail.
If you chose a tilted 1,18" mount you will get a collision.....

Håkan </div></div>




i think i am going to go with a 1.18" spuhr mount - no cant. i think this will work well for the premier. i realy dont need any room under the objective bell. i just need it to clear the rail.
 
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Re: spuhr mount for 34mm premire heritage+m14+casv14

just realized that the caps the premier heritage comes with add quite a bit to the outer diameter. i measured across the scope cap on the objective........its almost 70mm! it looks like i will need a 1.49" spuhr mount. i would probably shoot for a 1.38" spuhr mount but i dont think they are are available in 34mm with OUT cant.
 
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Re: spuhr mount for 34mm premire heritage+m14+casv14

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LoneWolfUSMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pinco Palla</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The AD mounts are very well done , very reliable return to zero and rock solid</div></div>

Not so much on the RTZ part in the mount I tested.</div></div>

LoneWolf,
Did you lap your mount? I read your review, and it almost scared me away, but I tried the ADM anyway. I lapped mine and I my RTZ was incredible. I even tried it at 700 yards and it was same POA/POI.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mm509</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
LoneWolf,
Did you lap your mount? I read your review, and it almost scared me away, but I tried the ADM anyway. I lapped mine and I my RTZ was incredible. I even tried it at 700 yards and it was same POA/POI. </div></div>

What are you lapping on the mount?

Lapping the rings will have no effect on RTZ versus holding zero. The mount held zero fine. It didn't "return" to zero after being removed.
 
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Re: spuhr mount for 34mm premire heritage+m14+casv14

Guess I should have specified a little better. Sorry.

I did lap the rings, and now I see that, lapping the rings would have nothing to do with it returning to zero. I did do a return to zero test, where I would shoot one round, remove the mount, lock and unlock a couple times, put it back on, lock it down and fire another round. I did this across 10 rounds, and my group was just under 1/2 moa. Not nearly as good as it was with solid rings, but acceptable non the less.

Needless to say, I have went back to solid mount rings in the form of American Rifle Company M10's.
 
#21
Re: spuhr mount for 34mm premire heritage+m14+casv14

For my applicatoin.....I am going to go with a 0-cant moa 1.46" 34mm spuhr. To be mounted backwards to enable me to mount mini red dots on the left side to accommodate my left handed shooting. Does any one see any reason this would not be optimal for me?

Again, this is for the premier heritage 3-15x50 mounted on th vltor casv14 m14 rail system
 
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