• Watch Out for Scammers!

    We've now added a color code for all accounts. Orange accounts are new members, Blue are full members, and Green are Supporters. If you get a message about a sale from an orange account, make sure you pay attention before sending any money!

American Exceptionalism

Spidersix

Private
Minuteman
Jun 3, 2020
59
72
How many of us here are willing to counter the narrative of American decline? I was raised to believe that America was the best country in the world. What do each of you do to celebrate American exceptionalism? How do you counter the naysayers who equate our country with the worst of the third world to drag us down?
How would you articulate the qualities that make our nation exceptional? What are those qualities?
I want to motivate each of you to defend our nation. To speak up and define what it is to be American and special. Lady Liberty needs us to stand up now!!
Will you do so?
Spidersix
 
  • Like
Reactions: Doc68 and lash
We are given a choice to elect who they want in office to maintain that illusion that your vote counts . These people who cause our problems in government will not remove themselves from office, money and power are hard to leave behind once you gain it. I think most of us would defend our Nation, those who that put on the uniform and pick up a rifle to stand a post are exceptional, they put their lives on the line to defend our Nation before the rest of us.
Lady Liberty needs a major reset unfortunately that takes blood not votes. We have a government with two sides which by its nature hates each other I don't believe that can last, does a marriage last if each of the two hates and despises each other ?
If we have any luck at all it will be as fossil fuel one day in the future.
 
We went to the moon. We're going back to the moon and the on to Mars. For all intents and purposes we created the internet. The only way the Chinks have gotten anywhere is by stealing what we created. Im old and about done in this world. The most exceptional thing I can do now is call a spade a spade. The Chinks are our enemies and sworn to destroy us and our way of life. Doing business with them should be called 'Consorting with the enemy" and punishable in the most severe manor. Fuck the goddamn communists.
 
We are given a choice to elect who they want in office to maintain that illusion that your vote counts . These people who cause our problems in government will not remove themselves from office, money and power are hard to leave behind once you gain it. I think most of us would defend our Nation, those who that put on the uniform and pick up a rifle to stand a post are exceptional, they put their lives on the line to defend our Nation before the rest of us.
Lady Liberty needs a major reset unfortunately that takes blood not votes. We have a government with two sides which by its nature hates each other I don't believe that can last, does a marriage last if each of the two hates and despises each other ?
If we have any luck at all it will be as fossil fuel one day in the future.
Our opponents wish to divide us. We need to understand who they are. It is not our neighbors and fellow citizens, regardless of our differences, that are our opponents. Rather it is the elites who wish for us to set upon each other to distract from their actions which solidify their wealth at our expense. I am a capitalist of the first order, yet I find myself using language which 10 years ago I would have decried as communist. I am disgusted by cronyism which portrays itself as capitalism. I am disturbed by the rise of corporations which acquire powers that negate my constitutional rights. I am a citizen who believes there is a concerted effort to have us focus on the 5 to 10 percent of issues that we disagree on, rather than focus on the 90 percent we agree upon.
I believe that the “powers to be” not only don’t respect our Constitutional Rights, but are actually threatened by the notion that we conduct our affairs by these rights. They are threatened by our beliefs in American Exceptionalism.
Spidersix
 
rxu84o1.gif
 
American Exceptionalism was displayed before, during, and after both World Wars. We worked hard to stay out of the European conflicts until we couldn’t avoid it; then we kicked butt and were the deciding factor and victor. American Exceptionalism.
Interestingly, the resulting impact on our society and economy in both cases was an economic boom and rise of an independent and ascendant country.
Spidersix
 
I am struggling right now. Just watched the mob pull down a statue in DC live on tv. No one made any attempt to stop it. This happened in our national capital. Is this what our society has become? At what point do we as citizens take matters in our hands in response? If the mob can act, why not us? Who can tell us to stand down if they are unwilling to stand up to the mob?
Spidersix
 
American Exceptionalism to me means also standing up to the mob. It means taking up the position that is unpopular, dangerous. It means at some point wading into the mob to defend our rights.
Spidersix
 
  • Like
Reactions: wade2big
I view myself as a fourth class citizen, born in the greatest country on earth but not able to be a part of it. Short of a literal third world country, I could've been born in just about any western nation and not likely had a better or worse life. When I share my story, conservatives shout me down and liberals offer me poison apples.
 
I view myself as a fourth class citizen, born in the greatest country on earth but not able to be a part of it. Short of a literal third world country, I could've been born in just about any western nation and not likely had a better or worse life. When I share my story, conservatives shout me down and liberals offer me poison apples.

"I view myself as a fourth class citizen."

That's your problem. Stop waiting for someone to hand you life on a silver platter. That is not how freedom works. You get what you earn. There is nothing in this country holding you back more than your own "I can't."
 
I believe in the romanticized thought that we're the pinnacle of democracy, freedom and liberty as well. But, my belief in that has been waning during the last 10-15 years. And it has accelerated at the speed of light since the COVID-19 scam arrived. Then the bullshit BLM mob riots and looting has almost made me rethink that belief entirely.

Let's face it, we have some of the dumbest fucking voters of any nation. And then I read stories about various polls done that indicate vast majorities approve of government shutdowns and suspension of liberty to fight the flu. Most believe you should be a good little sheep and wear your mask too. Apparently majorities of Americans also support BLM and believe police brutality is a very serious problem. They say "racism" is the biggest problem we face as a nation, unreal.

And then to top it all off, supposedly brain dead Joe Biden leads Trump by 10+ points in the general election. I mean, what the fuck? How can you support a dementia ridden candidate who often doesn't even know what office he's running for? A career politician who has been hiding in his basement the last three months and has to be coached on how and what to say. This is the guy that could be our President. So, just like all the great nations throughout history, they had their time of glory, then faded away. I hope we're not at that point, but I would not bet on it.
 
I believe in the romanticized thought that we're the pinnacle of democracy, freedom and liberty as well. But, my belief in that has been waning during the last 10-15 years. And it has accelerated at the speed of light since the COVID-19 scam arrived. Then the bullshit BLM mob riots and looting has almost made me rethink that belief entirely.

Let's face it, we have some of the dumbest fucking voters of any nation. And then I read stories about various polls done that indicate vast majorities approve of government shutdowns and suspension of liberty to fight the flu. Most believe you should be a good little sheep and wear your mask too. Apparently majorities of Americans also support BLM and believe police brutality is a very serious problem. They say "racism" is the biggest problem we face as a nation, unreal.

And then to top it all off, supposedly brain dead Joe Biden leads Trump by 10+ points in the general election. I mean, what the fuck? How can you support a dementia ridden candidate who often doesn't even know what office he's running for? A career politician who has been hiding in his basement the last three months and has to be coached on how and what to say. This is the guy that could be our President. So, just like all the great nations throughout history, they had their time of glory, then faded away. I hope we're not at that point, but I would not bet on it.

I think we're living on borrowed time.
 
I believe in the romanticized thought that we're the pinnacle of democracy, freedom and liberty as well. But, my belief in that has been waning during the last 10-15 years. And it has accelerated at the speed of light since the COVID-19 scam arrived. Then the bullshit BLM mob riots and looting has almost made me rethink that belief entirely.

Let's face it, we have some of the dumbest fucking voters of any nation. And then I read stories about various polls done that indicate vast majorities approve of government shutdowns and suspension of liberty to fight the flu. Most believe you should be a good little sheep and wear your mask too. Apparently majorities of Americans also support BLM and believe police brutality is a very serious problem. They say "racism" is the biggest problem we face as a nation, unreal.

And then to top it all off, supposedly brain dead Joe Biden leads Trump by 10+ points in the general election. I mean, what the fuck? How can you support a dementia ridden candidate who often doesn't even know what office he's running for? A career politician who has been hiding in his basement the last three months and has to be coached on how and what to say. This is the guy that could be our President. So, just like all the great nations throughout history, they had their time of glory, then faded away. I hope we're not at that point, but I would not bet on it.
I would say first: don’t believe any of these polls (keeping in mind these are the same pollsters that had Hillary ahead last time.)
Secondly: I actually think there are more decent, hardworking, grateful Americans than one would think from watching the news. The knuckleheads get all the press, so to speak.
Was out at the range today and had a group of high schoolers in the JROTC shooting small bore down at the other end of the line. A fine bunch of young men and women, at least one or more headed to West Point according to one of the instructors I spoke with. They are the future of our country and there are a lot more young people just like them, raised right by parents who still love this nation and are grateful for the fruits of American Exceptionalism.
Always remember that our ideological opponents want to divide and demoralize us by having us think we are outnumbered, demonize us by shouting us down, and try to control the conversation by telling us what words we can and can’t use. These are common tactics. Don’t fall for them.
You have to have faith that you are not alone, that your cause is worth the effort of countering the radical left, that your voice should be heard.
I must admit to having my doubts sometimes, but I am unwilling to give up on my nation. It’s going to be a long and grueling contest to win back our nation. And each time I go to bed frustrated and discouraged (like I did last night,) I get up the next day reinvigorated and renewed and find something in my day that reminds me of our American Exceptionalism.
Spidersix
 
  • Like
Reactions: Amanda4461
Definitely looking very exceptional right now , with the whole exceptional shitshow on the streets and the exceptional coke and FED fueled orgy on the Wallstreet while country burns.

President Camacho approves this message:devilish:

But honestly, every empire before you taught they were exceptional till the were not.

If this persists much longer Mexico will build the wall for you just to keep the 'exceptional' idiots now on the streets out and Chinese might have to start putting the students coming back from US into internment camps to screen them for the exceptionaly stupid ideas they might have gotten exposed to LOL
 
I view myself as a fourth class citizen, born in the greatest country on earth but not able to be a part of it. Short of a literal third world country, I could've been born in just about any western nation and not likely had a better or worse life. When I share my story, conservatives shout me down and liberals offer me poison apples.
What a crock of shit

Born here?

Have you seen the help wanted ads? Pick any occupation and just work. You will rise to the top


But not with that BS attitude
 
I view myself as a fourth class citizen, born in the greatest country on earth but not able to be a part of it. Short of a literal third world country, I could've been born in just about any western nation and not likely had a better or worse life. When I share my story, conservatives shout me down and liberals offer me poison apples.

Kindly spread your legs and gently remove the tampon. Everything is going to be alright.
 
Definitely looking very exceptional right now , with the whole exceptional shitshow on the streets and the exceptional coke and FED fueled orgy on the Wallstreet while country burns.

President Camacho approves this message:devilish:

But honestly, every empire before you taught they were exceptional till the were not.

If this persists much longer Mexico will build the wall for you just to keep the 'exceptional' idiots now on the streets out and Chinese might have to start putting the students coming back from US into internment camps to screen them for the exceptionaly stupid ideas they might have gotten exposed to LOL
Name a Greater Nation, oh Wise One?
 
  • Like
Reactions: Ravenworks
For those whiny,effete, betas who piss and moan about not getting as many freebies as someone in (insert Nordic country) I tell them if they'll renounce their citizenship, I'll buy the one way ticket for them to GTFO.
 
For those whiny,effete, betas who piss and moan about not getting as many freebies as someone in (insert Nordic country) I tell them if they'll renounce their citizenship, I'll buy the one way ticket for them to GTFO.
And not one of those Nordic countries, or any other in the world for that matter, have even a small fraction of the social-economic mobility that we have in America. If your parents are working class in Western Europe, it is not likely you will have the opportunity to be much higher up on the social-economic ladder. You might rise one level with hard work, but not to the upper levels.
Here in America, you have many options and opportunities should you be willing to work hard and sacrifice for the future. From the military to trade school to community college, you have many first “rungs” to step up, no matter what station in life you start from. Anybody who thinks otherwise has given up before they started.
Spidersix
 
  • Like
Reactions: quietmike
If it is so much better somewhere else, you are welcome to leave...
 
And not one of those Nordic countries, or any other in the world for that matter, have even a small fraction of the social-economic mobility that we have in America. If your parents are working class in Western Europe, it is not likely you will have the opportunity to be much higher up on the social-economic ladder. You might rise one level with hard work, but not to the upper levels.
Here in America, you have many options and opportunities should you be willing to work hard and sacrifice for the future. From the military to trade school to community college, you have many first “rungs” to step up, no matter what station in life you start from. Anybody who thinks otherwise has given up before they started.
Spidersix

That is actually not even remotely true Social-economic mobility in US these days is minimal compared to most of the western world, fairy tale you have been told for decades is no longer true. US barely makes into the worlds top 30 in regards to Social economic mobility. Europe , particularly northern countries are on the whole other planet in regard to social-economic mobility. We are talking about huge differences like 25+% mobility gap.

Folks love rags-to-riches stories,frequently citing cases to argue that, with hard work, anyone can make a fortune in the United States, no matter how poor they start out , facts don't support this and social mobility in US nosedived since the WW2


 
Mr. BR.
I think you and I will have a respectful and nuanced discussion, the kind discouraged and rare these days. I concede your point that social-economic mobility is on the decline in the USA these days. Hopefully we could both agree that is sad, wrong, and preventable. I blame our feckless politicians and the USA Chamber of Commerce type businessmen that look for the last dollar at the expense of the society they operate in and that have enabled their profits. I am disturbed, but not surprised, that we have folks that would profit by selling the rope to hang our selves, so to speak. I would hope that you and I would be aligned in our opposition to the managed decline of our great country and work together on turning our great nation around. What say you to the proposition that we are a great nation that deserves to inspire and reward our rising generations? That we have the responsibility to defend our way of life and extend our privileges and heritage to those who come behind us?
Respectfully,
Spidersix
 
Unfortunately, it seems things are so far along that future will be darker and much more authoritarian. Non functioning free market, flood of money and lack of enforcement on antitrust legislation means small business is going to get hammered by monopolists that politicians are afraid to beak up (particularly now as most of the top performing stock are monopolists no one is going to break up champions of the economy), at the same time so-called 4th industrial revolution will by automation degrade value and number of low to mid-wage jobs, many occupations and degrees are going to end up near worthless while a very small field of expertise will gain on value, add to that dysfunctional and overly expensive education system ( you already have 9% of students doing sex work to pay for studies)

As for social mobility, the educational system is so rigged, its beyond repair. Education is still a dominant factor in succes . Ritch dumb fucks are more or less guaranteed degrees at ivy league universities, plebs only the really best of the best have a shot
 
It is simple to tell the quality of your country. Are the walls put up to keep people in or keep people out? Zero other factors involved.
 
That is a low threshold every country that is a bit more prosperous than the next has issues keeping people out even super dictatorships and proper slaveowners like GCC kingdoms. Yust look at the ME immigrants outnumber the natives even though they are worth nothing and have no right or protection by Law. Migration is mostly economic .
 
Last edited:
When it’s all said and done that is what counts. No money, no food, = unrest or outright war.
 
That is very true ,for plebs lives, economic prosperity tops any 'perceived freedom'
 
Food is required by all. Even the elites. You know, that 9 meals from anarchy thing.
A sustained, broad based thriving economy can only be sustained by a society with a mid to high degree of freedom.
 
As if the two aren't linked? Socialism/Communism=starvation unless everyone is the same in-fact.

When Chaves was in power they pulled down the statue of Christopher Columbus in Caracas, and went on spree of destroying history. The refugees from that communist hell hole are sounding the alarm that it is happening here. They are correct.
 
  • Like
Reactions: RTH1800
The odd thing is that the majority is cowed and not standing up to the 13%.
 
I know. We don't want to be branded a racist and get canceled. I just got this letter from my district superintendent:

--------------------------- Parents/Guardians,
I wanted to take just a few minutes of your time to touch base again. During most summer breaks, I would leave you alone, confidently assuming you are enjoying your break and anticipating a typical return to school. As we all know, however, this summer is far from typical and our world continues to change. Beyond feeling a sense of responsibility, I have a strong desire to address those changes since you will be entrusting your children to us in just a few months.
I am more hopeful than ever that we will be able to bring our students back into our schools in August and, as promised, I will be updating our families on our plans in mid-July. However, my concerns for our students’ health go beyond the pandemic and extend to their emotional wellbeing. So much has happened in our world since we left for Spring Break. So, when your children return to us, we must be prepared to address not only their academic and physical health needs, but also social and emotional needs as well.
As each of you are well aware, we are living in historic times. We very well may be living through one of the greatest (if not the greatest) civil rights movements of all time. As we see marches and protests, we also see progress and growth, and we need to link arms as a Ladue Schools community to bring your children - our students - through this incredibly important time.
Over the past few weeks, I have had many conversations about what is going on in our country with individuals from many walks of life. We often end up discussing where a school district belongs in this conversation. My personal belief is that it is a district’s responsibility to be entrenched and actively involved in moments such as the one we are experiencing. It is these life experiences that help us all to teach and learn, no matter what our age.
I went to the first student-organized march and did my best to lean in and learn from the students, staff members, parents and many others in our community who had come together in support of our African American families. You see, as your Superintendent, I too am continuing on my equity journey and I too need to continue to listen and learn. However, it must go beyond just listening to taking actions to dismantle the systems in place that allow racism to exist. It will require all of us working together to make these changes that are long overdue.
As Superintendent of --------Schools and as a human being, I support all of our students, our staff, and our nation when we all say together: Black Lives Matter. Period. This journey for Ladue started before I became Superintendent, and we will remain steady and true to the course. Our resolve to make the School District a place where all feel welcome and where racism and inequity are not tolerated is not negotiable. If our children are not walking in our doors knowing they are valued, then they cannot learn and ultimately their education is what will guide their future. I stand by these beliefs unequivocally and it is my expectation that every person we employ will stand by this as well.
This past year, our African American families have been extremely generous in sharing their time with me to discuss their experiences and ideas. These meetings, coupled with our larger CURE meetings with African American families, have allowed us to continue to make changes in leadership structures, recruitment and curriculum to ensure our focus, efforts and resources are appropriately placed.
But as immensely grateful as I am for the assistance of our
African American families, it will not be enough until
all of our ------Schools families are aligned.
I have personally observed many of our families rising up amongst the distress, unhappiness, unfairness, and unrest and saying: Enough Is Enough.
I believe in our ---------Schools community and I also believe in our desire to be better, do more, and head into this new era with increased compassion for every human being we encounter. We can and will lean in and learn together.
In closing, I am linking information about Juneteenth. As many of you know, this past Friday was Juneteenth. It is a remarkable moment in history and should be honored as one. On June 19, 1865, more than two years after the Emancipation Proclamation, word finally arrived in Texas that slaves were free, and Juneteenth is the commemoration of that day. Please take a moment to read through this article, share it with others and have a conversation over this important piece of our nation’s history: Teaching Juneteenth
Recent events continue to reflect the emphasis we need to place on supporting our African American students and families. As we move into the next school year, I encourage you to join us in bringing this needed change home to our district by having conversations at home and participating in district events geared towards this change, such as our Fearless Focus series. These evenings provide an opportunity for all community members to have dialogue for change.
We will be publishing our dates for this year’s Fearless Focus events soon and I hope you will put them on your calendar and make it a priority to attend.
I can promise you that if you decide to join us at our Fearless Focus sessions, you will find me and the rest of the leaders in our district standing right beside you.
Your Superintendent,

Dr. --- -------------
Superintendent


Makes you wonder what's going to happen to anyone who is not "in alignment"?
 
I celebrate every day, I love looking up at the American flag and pole I setup and thinking about what this country was built on and stands for.

I'm a recent immigrant, just got my green card, and immigrated from Canada. The reason I immigrated here is because I like what the USA stands for, the principles it was built on. Canada is turning into a "progressive" socialist shithole, and this has been accelerated by the clowns we currently have in office up there. I don't believe in what Canada has turned into. There's no respect for civil liberties or freedoms. The US is the last bastion of freedom.

While I do think that the US is the last bastion of freedom in the world, I'm worried what I see today. There's lots of Americans that don't realize what they have here, and what makes this country great. There are people that are trying to undo the principles and foundations of this country, and turn it into something it was never meant to be. Once you lose your freedom and civil liberties, it's extremely difficult to get back.

I've been debating about going back to school (I have my engineering degree), and going into constitutional law. That way I could at least be better armed to fight the people that are trying to pervert the constitution. I just have to see if I can get in to law school here.
 
  • Like
  • Love
Reactions: 04JRB and Fig
I know. We don't want to be branded a racist and get canceled. I just got this letter from my district superintendent:

--------------------------- Parents/Guardians,
I wanted to take just a few minutes of your time to touch base again. During most summer breaks, I would leave you alone, confidently assuming you are enjoying your break and anticipating a typical return to school. As we all know, however, this summer is far from typical and our world continues to change. Beyond feeling a sense of responsibility, I have a strong desire to address those changes since you will be entrusting your children to us in just a few months.
I am more hopeful than ever that we will be able to bring our students back into our schools in August and, as promised, I will be updating our families on our plans in mid-July. However, my concerns for our students’ health go beyond the pandemic and extend to their emotional wellbeing. So much has happened in our world since we left for Spring Break. So, when your children return to us, we must be prepared to address not only their academic and physical health needs, but also social and emotional needs as well.
As each of you are well aware, we are living in historic times. We very well may be living through one of the greatest (if not the greatest) civil rights movements of all time. As we see marches and protests, we also see progress and growth, and we need to link arms as a Ladue Schools community to bring your children - our students - through this incredibly important time.
Over the past few weeks, I have had many conversations about what is going on in our country with individuals from many walks of life. We often end up discussing where a school district belongs in this conversation. My personal belief is that it is a district’s responsibility to be entrenched and actively involved in moments such as the one we are experiencing. It is these life experiences that help us all to teach and learn, no matter what our age.
I went to the first student-organized march and did my best to lean in and learn from the students, staff members, parents and many others in our community who had come together in support of our African American families. You see, as your Superintendent, I too am continuing on my equity journey and I too need to continue to listen and learn. However, it must go beyond just listening to taking actions to dismantle the systems in place that allow racism to exist. It will require all of us working together to make these changes that are long overdue.
As Superintendent of --------Schools and as a human being, I support all of our students, our staff, and our nation when we all say together: Black Lives Matter. Period. This journey for Ladue started before I became Superintendent, and we will remain steady and true to the course. Our resolve to make the School District a place where all feel welcome and where racism and inequity are not tolerated is not negotiable. If our children are not walking in our doors knowing they are valued, then they cannot learn and ultimately their education is what will guide their future. I stand by these beliefs unequivocally and it is my expectation that every person we employ will stand by this as well.
This past year, our African American families have been extremely generous in sharing their time with me to discuss their experiences and ideas. These meetings, coupled with our larger CURE meetings with African American families, have allowed us to continue to make changes in leadership structures, recruitment and curriculum to ensure our focus, efforts and resources are appropriately placed.
But as immensely grateful as I am for the assistance of our
African American families, it will not be enough until
all of our ------Schools families are aligned.
I have personally observed many of our families rising up amongst the distress, unhappiness, unfairness, and unrest and saying: Enough Is Enough.
I believe in our ---------Schools community and I also believe in our desire to be better, do more, and head into this new era with increased compassion for every human being we encounter. We can and will lean in and learn together.
In closing, I am linking information about Juneteenth. As many of you know, this past Friday was Juneteenth. It is a remarkable moment in history and should be honored as one. On June 19, 1865, more than two years after the Emancipation Proclamation, word finally arrived in Texas that slaves were free, and Juneteenth is the commemoration of that day. Please take a moment to read through this article, share it with others and have a conversation over this important piece of our nation’s history: Teaching Juneteenth
Recent events continue to reflect the emphasis we need to place on supporting our African American students and families. As we move into the next school year, I encourage you to join us in bringing this needed change home to our district by having conversations at home and participating in district events geared towards this change, such as our Fearless Focus series. These evenings provide an opportunity for all community members to have dialogue for change.
We will be publishing our dates for this year’s Fearless Focus events soon and I hope you will put them on your calendar and make it a priority to attend.
I can promise you that if you decide to join us at our Fearless Focus sessions, you will find me and the rest of the leaders in our district standing right beside you.
Your Superintendent,

Dr. --- -------------
Superintendent


Makes you wonder what's going to happen to anyone who is not "in alignment"?


LOL! He thinks it's about civil rights. Glad he's not teaching my kids.
 
13% vs 65% = A QUICK AND DECISIVE VICTORY WHEN THE EVENT THAT IGNITES THE SLEEPING GIANT COMES TO BE, don't be fooled it will happen the 65% will have their GEORGE FLOYD TRIGGER EVENT
Then big cities will starve when the food deliveries
stop....The transmission lines to those cities are severed etc....tic toc......We see what happens when the grid goes down In the hit summer for 2 nights ? Let's try 2 weeks? 2 months.........they will turn on each other. Ill be eating Prim Rib on my farm....