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I was reading the news today and this little gem came across about how the Supreme Court issued a bitchslap to Minnesota (Strangely 9-0 along with a 9-0 dickslap to the EPA--small victories I guess).

TLDR summary: Old Lady owed 15,000 in back taxes, MN seized her condo, sold it for 40,000 and kept the change. Seems like a slam dunk for the Old Lady but somehow it got all the way to the Supreme Court.

Anyway, like I am prone to do (much to the annoyance of everyone here at times) I had a WTF moment and decided to look into the details. It get WORSE.

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Interest and fees are 565% more than the actual tax!!! Yes you may sound compound interest occurs over time but even if just half of that is interest, thats a rate of nearly 25%!!! Talk about highway robbery...if MOST of it was interest thats over 30%

That's beyond the chuztpah of just seizing $25,000 from a private individual.

Then the fact that both circuit AND appeals court ruled against here on the basis that she had other debts (like a mortgage, and homeowners dues) so she shouldn't get the money. (lol you still owe but you cannot get the money from when we sold your house!)

I used to think some of you guys were nuts about the "we ain't voting our way out"

please note the verb tense.

Holy Fuckballs.

In case you want to throw things:
 
Ive stated it before its war, revival, or peasant life. One side wont fight, the other side wont reform, and most of us cant even be bothered.
 
They (EPA/Ziden) got bitchslapped today 9-0 on "who owns the waters" act.
 
I’ve yet to understand why it’s acceptable for the state to tax private property annually.

Very similar model used here in Oregon for organized theft run by the State crime cartel . you may think you own your property, but actually the State runs a 'perpetual' floating Tax Lien attachment even after it's paid off by you .
The poison attitude of your Government, is that they consider Property ownership as just you being 'Preferred Renters' of the State .
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I’ve yet to understand why it’s acceptable for the state to tax private property annually.
It's legalized theft, pure and simple. And because we've acquiesced and let them get away with it.

I just love it when the county sends me a vote ballot asking if I am in favor of raising my own property taxes so they can pay for another school or fire department. Fuck no is my response (vote). I don't give a fuck what or who it's for...schools, fire departments, police, or Mother Teresa.
 
I’ve yet to understand why it’s acceptable for the state to tax private property annually.
Because a bunch of FUDDs will be all about "it's for the children" as they demand men with guns force you to hand over money or your property on pain of death so their precious little brats can be your responsibility to pay for instead of the responsibility of their parents.
 
Because a bunch of FUDDs will be all about "it's for the children" as they demand men with guns force you to hand over money or your property on pain of death so their precious little brats can be your responsibility to pay for instead of the responsibility of their parents.
This really pisses me off. My wife and I don't have kids, yet we are forced to pay to educate someone else's children. And no, I don't believe we all benefit from having kids indoctrinated by leftist/commie teachers. You want to have kids, you pay for their education from kindergarten to college.
 
What really got me was how a 2300 tsx bill ballooned to 15k in 5 years.

And them how both circuit and appeals court ruled MN keeping the extra 25000 was legal.

That's some soviet gulag level shit right there.

I though IL was bad for fining me $5 per toll because I checked "car" instead of "truck other" even though they had my credit card, address, and correct plate. I mean at least the mob offers protection.
 
Remember Anthony Weiner? They guy emailing dick pics all over New York state? Besides being the typical leftist, pedophile, pervert, he was honest with people about the intentions of America's hate filled, evil socialists and their plans for the peasants of the New World Order.

When socialists are done with this country everyone will reset to ZERO dollars and ZERO net worth when they die. He was very animate when he was speaking on MSNBC and he was on TV a lot back in the day when he was a full blown Clinton lackey. He was constantly arguing for a 100% estate tax. Why? Because after you die, it is the socialist's contention that your family has no right to your accumulated wealth or property.

The Democrats/communists/socialists plan is to STOP generational wealth transfer, except for cases where the billionaire is rich beyond belief or politically well connected. The Bill Gates of the world are allowed to move their collective wealth globally, hide it in trusts, foundations and corporations. The corrupt elected officials simply exclude themselves from the laws or align themselves with their wealthy Chinese masters and they too are protected from poverty.

Robbing this woman is an example of how they plan to do it.

In what world would $2300 dollars in an investment accumulate $13,000 in gains in five years??? That is literally pawn shop interest rates.

In what world would you be allowed to recover 300% of what you are legally owed and keep the balance after being repaid?

How are they able to keep the excess and not repay the lien holder, i.e. the company holding the mortgage on the property?

In a world controlled by EVIL socialists.

As we speak, they are seizing and selling the homes of people placed in care facilities and using Medicare. The IRS seizes assets worth far more than they are owed and keeps the profit when they sell them to their connected friends at banks and land development companies. If you have cash or specie, they can steal it and claim your are a drug dealer or involved in some yet unknown illegal activity and divide it among themselves.

In spite of what the FBI claimed, this man had legally obtained his collection over decades. It was stolen from him so government museums could avoid paying for the items they wanted to steal.

https://www.indystar.com/story/ente...-artifacts-fbi-found-indiana-farm/2990542002/

In this instant, the state of Pennsylvania helped wealthy elites steal a privately held Impressionist are collection from it's original foundation and college so the well connected could "loan it" to themselves and keep it in their private homes.

 
dam politicians any way range day was wonderful we talked and everyone took turns bashing the government and hitting steel plates in between yapping personally still think we need a smoker attached to the truck bringing a assortment of smoked meats where ever we go lol .
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something like this ..
 
Watch what happens to this.

Bill Cosby has been collecting African art since the 1960's, his private collection is valued at well over $1,000,000,000 dollars. When he dies, the family can decide to move it from the Smithsonian to private hands or to break it up in what will be a series of art sales akin to breaking up Standard Oil.

One day Bill Cosby tells young black ghetto animals to pull their pants up and go to school or work, this upsets socialists nationwide. The nerve of a hard working successful black man talking out of turn and without permission from his white masters. What happens next?

Socialist hoes suddenly remember sucking Bill's dick back in 1984 and now they do not like it. Sure it was 36 years ago, but to get sex crimes charges on elderly, wealthy, well connected people the left hates they removed the statute of limitations for bullshit like this.

One of the first things the Feds did was offer to drop the charges or go easy on Bill if he donates his entire art collection to the government and allowed them to dispose of it as they see fit. Various states offer similar deals for portions of his art and wealth, they all promise to give the army of hoes lining up against him a taste, if they go to court.

They put Bill Cosby in prison to force him to give his wealth away, he refuses and when he gets to an honest judge they drop all the bullshit and let him go.

I promise you, rich, white, well-connected socialists will steal this man's art collection before he dies.

https://africa.si.edu/pressrelease/conversations/
 
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I can't be the only one who believes every justice on a lower court that has their ruling overturned by SCOTUS by a 9-0 margin should be removed from the bench and disbarred.

I know, judicial appointments have nothing to do with justice, it's all politics like everything else. Doesn't stop me from being optimistic for the future...
 
Eventually people will get tired of this and Jan 6 will be seen for what it was. A few angry boy scouts waving flags.

In the movie, "Next of Kin," Patrick Swayze plays a Chicago police detective but he came from a small town. His cousin is played by Liam Neeson and that cousin has a younger brother who gets killed by one of the mob guys. He aims to seek vengeance.

Swayze interviews one of the local mobsters who claims to know nothing. But he says, "That's too bad about your relative." (or words to that effect.)

Swayze replies, "Bad? That isn't bad. You ain't seen bad. But it's coming."

Then LIam comes to town to rain down holy hell. A pattern he would repeat in other movies you may have seen.
 
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Eventually people will get tired of this and Jan 6 will be seen for what it was. A few angry boy scouts waving flags.

In the movie, "Next of Kin," Patrick Swayze plays a Chicago police detective but he came from a small town. His cousin is played by Liam Neeson and that cousin has a younger brother who gets killed by one of the mob guys. He aims to seek vengeance.

Swayze interviews one of the local mobsters who claims to know nothing. But he says, "That's too bad about your relative." (or words to that effect.)

Swayze replies, "Bad? That isn't bad. You ain't seen bad. But it's coming."

Then LIam comes to town to reign holy hell. A pattern he would repeat in other movies you may have seen.
Thank you for bringing back a memory of when movies were entertaining, exciting, and fun.
 
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And no one has mentioned capital gains taxes yet.......

You buy and hold a piece of real estate for thirty plus years, then you sell it for a profit. Now, the government forces you to pay them at least 25 percent of the profit.

For what ? What did the government do to earn it ? Did they take any of the speculative risk along the way ? Did they do any of the maintenance ? Did they evict any deadbeat renters ? Did they pay any of the property taxes ?

Fucking thieves.
 
And no one has mentioned capital gains taxes yet.......

You buy and hold a piece of real estate for thirty plus years, then you sell it for a profit. Now, the government forces you to pay them at least 25 percent of the profit.

For what ? What did the government do to earn it ? Did they take any of the speculative risk along the way ? Did they do any of the maintenance ? Did they evict any deadbeat renters ? Did they pay any of the property taxes ?

Fucking thieves.

Actually that's not the worst of it.
So you take your Profits and try to go buy the same thing again, what do you find?
You don't actually have any profits, at the best you will probably have to pay more than you just got to buy the same thing again.
Why?
Because the government stole from you the value of the money you thought you had through "inflation" that is near 100% caused by government printing money to hand out to their buddies.

So you are getting robbed coming and going and in the end winding up with way less actual value than what you had.
 
Very similar model used here in Oregon for organized theft run by the State crime cartel . you may think you own your property, but actually the State runs a 'perpetual' floating Tax Lien attachment even after it's paid off by you .
The poison attitude of your Government, is that they consider Property ownership as just you being 'Preferred Renters' of the State .
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In Oregon you can get an Oregon Trail card. Get on OHP. Good country living! Need a place to live? Buy a junk RV and park it on BLM or Forest Service and they can't do shit. They may make threats but the US Attorneys Office will not prosecute. No taxes need to be paid.

But...All the rest of you fuckers here in Oregon need to pay your share. Poor mentally ill drug addicts need the money.
 
It was 9-0 on the ruling against in the particular case, 5-4 on how to figure out (moving forward), what is a public waterway.
The ambiguity will cross over to gun rights and the arbitrary rules/laws set by the ATF.
 
It was 9-0 on the ruling against in the particular case, 5-4 on how to figure out (moving forward), what is a public waterway.
The ambiguity will cross over to gun rights and the arbitrary rules/laws set by the ATF.
Correct, 3 liberal Justices and Kavanaugh. 4 concurrences (including conservative Kavanaugh) in the judgment but objecting to the newly announced rule (or test). Basically, those 4 justices thought the Sacketts should have won under the old test.

Justice Thomas wrote his own concurrence, which Gorsuch joined. As always, anything Thomas writes is worth reading, but only Gorsuch would join him. Nevertheless, they both joined the opinion in full. As usual, the rest of the court is not ready to go along with Justice Thomas's approach, which is always, The law and the constitution say x, and that means x. All the others want to say it means whatever else they would like it to mean, exercising power like a politician instead of acting like a judge.
 
Remember Anthony Weiner? They guy emailing dick pics all over New York state? Besides being the typical leftist, pedophile, pervert, he was honest with people about the intentions of America's hate filled, evil socialists and their plans for the peasants of the New World Order.

When socialists are done with this country everyone will reset to ZERO dollars and ZERO net worth when they die. He was very animate when he was speaking on MSNBC and he was on TV a lot back in the day when he was a full blown Clinton lackey. He was constantly arguing for a 100% estate tax. Why? Because after you die, it is the socialist's contention that your family has no right to your accumulated wealth or property.

The Democrats/communists/socialists plan is to STOP generational wealth transfer, except for cases where the billionaire is rich beyond belief or politically well connected. The Bill Gates of the world are allowed to move their collective wealth globally, hide it in trusts, foundations and corporations. The corrupt elected officials simply exclude themselves from the laws or align themselves with their wealthy Chinese masters and they too are protected from poverty.

Robbing this woman is an example of how they plan to do it.

In what world would $2300 dollars in an investment accumulate $13,000 in gains in five years??? That is literally pawn shop interest rates.

In what world would you be allowed to recover 300% of what you are legally owed and keep the balance after being repaid?

How are they able to keep the excess and not repay the lien holder, i.e. the company holding the mortgage on the property?

In a world controlled by EVIL socialists.

As we speak, they are seizing and selling the homes of people placed in care facilities and using Medicare. The IRS seizes assets worth far more than they are owed and keeps the profit when they sell them to their connected friends at banks and land development companies. If you have cash or specie, they can steal it and claim your are a drug dealer or involved in some yet unknown illegal activity and divide it among themselves.

In spite of what the FBI claimed, this man had legally obtained his collection over decades. It was stolen from him so government museums could avoid paying for the items they wanted to steal.

https://www.indystar.com/story/ente...-artifacts-fbi-found-indiana-farm/2990542002/

In this instant, the state of Pennsylvania helped wealthy elites steal a privately held Impressionist are collection from it's original foundation and college so the well connected could "loan it" to themselves and keep it in their private homes.



Quote cause there’s so much harsh truth in there.



.22lr is the modern day guillotine

Be a real shame if a few pallets of bulk locks were used
 
media and democrats claimed it was 5-4 so they could blame "maga justices".
Yup--it was down in the weeds were the split occured. But judgement (the part that counts) was 9-0. But as always--the facts don't matter and 99% of people trust what the news tells them:

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In Oregon you can get an Oregon Trail card. Get on OHP. Good country living! Need a place to live? Buy a junk RV and park it on BLM or Forest Service and they can't do shit. They may make threats but the US Attorneys Office will not prosecute. No taxes need to be paid.

But...All the rest of you fuckers here in Oregon need to pay your share. Poor mentally ill drug addicts need the money.

It's not enough for the State of Oregon cartel to control wholesale, retail and licensing of Alcohol, Gambling, Weed, Cigarettes . Also do not forget Oregon State uses a business model of artificial inflation of property value, to confiscate a maximum amount of property tax per square acre of land.
Which is basically the State using land use and and land zoning regulation to manipulate and create an artificial lack of land for housing development to facilitate high density multi-family dwelling and discourage single family home with large property ownership . The building Fee's and Permits here in Washington County Oregon is Larceny by itself. It cost over $40,000 in fee's and permits to get the permission granted just to build a house here.
The housing shortage, Ultra high cost of home buying, and for the most part homelessness in Oregon, is a 'Managed Manipulation' of the State of Oregon .

Besides receiving Federal dollars-$$$ Money in management of the problem the States creates . Another good example in Money incentive to be made in State creation and 'Crisis' management of housing shortage and homelessness . Just in March, Oregon 2 Bill Package of 200 Million-$$$$$$$$$ for spending in a Housing and Homeless package . Tax money, to pay itself for new creation of more State bureaucracy and state employees to manage, but Not Fix the problem they create .
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It's not enough for the State of Oregon cartel to control wholesale, retail and licensing of Alcohol, Gambling, Weed, Cigarettes . Also do not forget Oregon State uses a business model of artificial inflation of property value, to confiscate a maximum amount of property tax per square acre of land.
Which is basically the State using land use and and land zoning regulation to manipulate and create an artificial lack of land for housing development to facilitate high density multi-family dwelling and discourage single family home with large property ownership . The building Fee's and Permits here in Washington County Oregon is Larceny by itself. It cost over $40,000 in fee's and permits to get the permission granted just to build a house here.
The housing shortage, Ultra high cost of home buying, and for the most part homelessness in Oregon, is a 'Managed Manipulation' of the State of Oregon .
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I just went to the butcher shop here and watched this waistoid and his girlfriend shell out $180 for ribeyes. Then they drove off in their lifted rubicon. Whatever. It’s when he pulled out his fucking Oregon Trail card to pay for it is when I lost my mind. I can’t go in public anymore. I have no fucking filter. Fuck this state. Trouble is where do I go? Because the Calicancer is moving into everywhere.
 
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I just went to the butcher shop here and watched this waistoid and his girlfriend shell out $180 for ribeyes. Then they drove off in their lifted rubicon. Whatever. It’s when he pulled out his fucking Oregon Trail card to pay for it is when I lost my mind. I can’t go in public anymore. I have no fucking filter. Fuck this state. Trouble is where do I go? Because the Calicancer is moving into everywhere.
Well, cross warshington off your list. It's toast.
 
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My wife and I don't have kids, yet we are forced to pay to educate someone else's children.
I'm just waiting for a politician to have the balls to say "let's end government education"

I will actually put a sign in my yard for that guy.

Who's with me, @wade2big ? 🍻🍻🍻
 
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I just went to the butcher shop here and watched this waistoid and his girlfriend shell out $180 for ribeyes. Then they drove off in their lifted rubicon. Whatever. It’s when he pulled out his fucking Oregon Trail card to pay for it is when I lost my mind. I can’t go in public anymore. I have no fucking filter. Fuck this state. Trouble is where do I go? Because the Calicancer is moving into everywhere.
There should be a bell and light that goes off when those parasites use that card. So everyone else can tel them you welcome


Should be able to look people up by name and see the total welfare they get also
 
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This really pisses me off. My wife and I don't have kids, yet we are forced to pay to educate someone else's children. And no, I don't believe we all benefit from having kids indoctrinated by leftist/commie teachers. You want to have kids, you pay for their education from kindergarten to college.
It’s some assholes telling someone they don’t know, they don’t care about and never will that they can’t have an abortion ‘cos you know, Jesus and innocent kids and stuff.

It’s all shit from the same pie just served on red or blue plates.
 
It’s some assholes telling someone they don’t know, they don’t care about and never will that they can’t have an abortion ‘cos you know, Jesus and innocent kids and stuff.

It’s all shit from the same pie just served on red or blue plates.
Go get your own rant thread hippe.

This is an infanticide free zone
 
I just went to the butcher shop here and watched this waistoid and his girlfriend shell out $180 for ribeyes. Then they drove off in their lifted rubicon. Whatever. It’s when he pulled out his fucking Oregon Trail card to pay for it is when I lost my mind. I can’t go in public anymore. I have no fucking filter. Fuck this state. Trouble is where do I go? Because the Calicancer is moving into everywhere.
What's the Oregon trail card....
 
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I just went to the butcher shop here and watched this waistoid and his girlfriend shell out $180 for ribeyes. Then they drove off in their lifted rubicon. Whatever. It’s when he pulled out his fucking Oregon Trail card to pay for it is when I lost my mind. I can’t go in public anymore. I have no fucking filter. Fuck this state. Trouble is where do I go? Because the Calicancer is moving into everywhere.
Hey .... ??? . what about Oregon State Government, and as long as your in-State without Identification. and Illegal into this Country without possession of Identification . All you need for Oregon to Give You Legal State ID. Is present any piece of paper with your ..insert sarcasm here--> 'Real Name' on it, to get an Oregon State issue Picture Identification . Then all you need to do is take that State Issued ID. up to Washington State to use to get a Washington State drivers license .
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Hey .... ??? . what about Oregon State Government, and as long as your in-State without Identification. and Illegal into this Country without possession of Identification . All you need for Oregon to Give You Legal State ID. Is present any piece of paper with your ..insert sarcasm here--> 'Real Name' on it, to get an Oregon State issue Picture Identification . Then all you need to do is take that State Issued ID. up to Washington State to use to get a Washington State drivers license .
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We're being overrun replaced.........
 
Go get your own rant thread hippe.

This is an infanticide free zone
Oh yeah? Read up on how many kids Monsanto’s killed when it poisoned waterways knowingly with carcinogens. You fudds don’t know how to protect your own lives. You think because you have a trigger to pull you’re good.

Drink up bitches, because most of those waterways and tables that are about to be pumped full of shit are in places y’all live. You’re too dumb to know and too stupid to care.
 
Oh yeah? Read up on how many kids Monsanto’s killed when it poisoned waterways knowingly with carcinogens. You fudds don’t know how to protect your own lives. You think because you have a trigger to pull you’re good.

Drink up bitches, because most of those waterways and tables that are about to be pumped full of shit are in places y’all live. You’re too dumb to know and too stupid to care.
Give it to me, Daddy ( government ) I can’t handle myself or my AOA.
You need to stay in your lane. Here in Georgia, the courts held that private land owners could shut down access to a river that is navigable damn near to the busiest airport in the world. The Governor said nope, got together with the state house, and passed a law that those waters were public and private entities couldn’t shut em down just cause they wanted to. A win for sportsmen in the state. If Biden morons had their way, those waters would be under federal control and the state would have no say on who could use them. I see that as protecting the interests of the everyday citizen. To hell with your federal controls. They screws up EVERYTHING they touch…
 
Oh yeah? Read up on how many kids Monsanto’s killed when it poisoned waterways knowingly with carcinogens. You fudds don’t know how to protect your own lives. You think because you have a trigger to pull you’re good.

Drink up bitches, because most of those waterways and tables that are about to be pumped full of shit are in places y’all live. You’re too dumb to know and too stupid to care.
That’s called crony socialism and fucked up too


“Oh it doesn’t matter my side wants to kill babies and cut your kids Dick off without your knowledge, your side poisons waterways because greed/laziness”



Oh how about your epa and poisoning that whole river. Etc.
 
And no one has mentioned capital gains taxes yet.......

You buy and hold a piece of real estate for thirty plus years, then you sell it for a profit. Now, the government forces you to pay them at least 25 percent of the profit.

For what ? What did the government do to earn it ? Did they take any of the speculative risk along the way ? Did they do any of the maintenance ? Did they evict any deadbeat renters ? Did they pay any of the property taxes ?

Fucking thieves.
Most of the increase in the price of property is due to government caused inflation. So if you bought for 50 thirty years ago then sold for 250 today you made a big profit based on price. But the value of the 250 is the same as the 50. So the capital gain tax stops you from breaking even.
 
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Oh yeah? Read up on how many kids Monsanto’s killed when it poisoned waterways knowingly with carcinogens. You fudds don’t know how to protect your own lives. You think because you have a trigger to pull you’re good.

Drink up bitches, because most of those waterways and tables that are about to be pumped full of shit are in places y’all live. You’re too dumb to know and too stupid to care.
You are starting to glow

@DuneBoer i woulda lost it. We bust our ass for the good life and these free loaders are living off our blood sweat and tears. Now my kids who I raised to do an honest day's hard work scrape by for shitty aptmts that cost more than my mortgage. ..
 
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Oh yeah? Read up on how many kids Monsanto’s killed when it poisoned waterways knowingly with carcinogens. You fudds don’t know how to protect your own lives. You think because you have a trigger to pull you’re good.

Drink up bitches, because most of those waterways and tables that are about to be pumped full of shit are in places y’all live. You’re too dumb to know and too stupid to care.
What do you suggest we do? Insurrection maybe?
 
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What do you suggest we do? Insurrection maybe?
Well, I’d start with a bit of education. If it wasn’t for folks forming a govt none of you twerps would be American. If it wasn’t for the American govt none of you twerps would be on the internet and Frank would selling classes in the back of a newspaper next to “Local Massesuse offers relaxing sessions ads. “

This is idea that all things .gov is evil is as stupid and uninformed as ‘guns kill kids”.

Monsanto knowingly poisoned thousands of families for decades with PCBs. None of you could police your AOA (seriously, you need to use .mil speak…?) against something like that.

I don’t care what people do on their property, but if they do something that affects others and does so with injury and without notice or compensation then that’s wrong.

And for the dumbo who calls this socialism, shut up. The very essence of the free market is that the price reflects all costs - internal and external (you’d know that if you didn’t limit your reading to scope reviews and how to inflate sex dolls).
 
Well, I’d start with a bit of education. If it wasn’t for folks forming a govt none of you twerps would be American. If it wasn’t for the American govt none of you twerps would be on the internet and Frank would selling classes in the back of a newspaper next to “Local Massesuse offers relaxing sessions ads. “

This is idea that all things .gov is evil is as stupid and uninformed as ‘guns kill kids”.

Monsanto knowingly poisoned thousands of families for decades with PCBs. None of you could police your AOA (seriously, you need to use .mil speak…?) against something like that.

I don’t care what people do on their property, but if they do something that affects others and does so with injury and without notice or compensation then that’s wrong.

And for the dumbo who calls this socialism, shut up. The very essence of the free market is that the price reflects all costs - internal and external (you’d know that if you didn’t limit your reading to scope reviews and how to inflate sex dolls).
It's too late for education.

So, what group can you put us in contact with to overthrow the government and change this?
 
It's too late for education.

So, what group can you put us in contact with to overthrow the government and change this?
I hear the Oath Keeper chap’s calendar just opened up, he should be able to advise.