Shortly after these came out last year it was determined that there could be a nose slump issue, depending on load, when used in the .338 Lapua. Bryan's update said the design needed to be "toughened up" and they are considering the best way to do it. That was almost a year ago, has anything happened? Have they made the improvement or are they not going to bother?
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Re: Any Berger .338 hybrid updates?
The new ones are shipping out and from what I was told from the Berger rep at my store the new ones have been tested to well over 3100 fps with zero nose slump , I will be trying out them out on pigs soon ,mine are on the way .Dustin
The new ones are shipping out and from what I was told from the Berger rep at my store the new ones have been tested to well over 3100 fps with zero nose slump , I will be trying out them out on pigs soon ,mine are on the way .Dustin
Re: Any Berger .338 hybrid updates?
If you don't mind me asking, where did you order them from? What load are you going to start with? Any info would be greatly appreciated.
If you don't mind me asking, where did you order them from? What load are you going to start with? Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Re: Any Berger .338 hybrid updates?
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Re: Any Berger .338 hybrid updates?
Sinclair should have the new ones or they will be coming soon mine are coming from my rep , I had no trouble with the original since im shooting a standard lapua at 2780 fps , ive had best luck out of Mcwhorter with Viht n165 but there are a lot of good 338 lapua powders H1000, r25, retumbo ...Dustin
Sinclair should have the new ones or they will be coming soon mine are coming from my rep , I had no trouble with the original since im shooting a standard lapua at 2780 fps , ive had best luck out of Mcwhorter with Viht n165 but there are a lot of good 338 lapua powders H1000, r25, retumbo ...Dustin
Re: Any Berger .338 hybrid updates?
Thanks for the update, I'm glad to hear they've solved the issue. Though I don't know if I would have had a problem. I've pushed the 300 SMK to 2800 with Retumbo but I need to back off a touch.
Thanks for the update, I'm glad to hear they've solved the issue. Though I don't know if I would have had a problem. I've pushed the 300 SMK to 2800 with Retumbo but I need to back off a touch.
Re: Any Berger .338 hybrid updates?
One production run of Generation II 338 Cal 300gr Hybrids has been shipped and sold out by Berger. The next run is shipping supposedly the first part of June. For real info contact Teresa Collins at Berger Customer Service [email protected] She will have the real skinny!
One production run of Generation II 338 Cal 300gr Hybrids has been shipped and sold out by Berger. The next run is shipping supposedly the first part of June. For real info contact Teresa Collins at Berger Customer Service [email protected] She will have the real skinny!
Re: Any Berger .338 hybrid updates?
I have loaded the old ones and now am working on the new ones... I am not impressed with the quality of the old lots but Bryan assures me they shouldnt be a problem.
They in my testing did Verry well at the 600y mark. But with out question from what i have seen with the new ones they are WAY better production..
Pics of the first lots.. more to come..
these are the pics from the test firings..
THE LAST PIC IS LOADED 84.5 not 48.5
I have loaded the old ones and now am working on the new ones... I am not impressed with the quality of the old lots but Bryan assures me they shouldnt be a problem.
They in my testing did Verry well at the 600y mark. But with out question from what i have seen with the new ones they are WAY better production..
Pics of the first lots.. more to come..
these are the pics from the test firings..
THE LAST PIC IS LOADED 84.5 not 48.5
Re: Any Berger .338 hybrid updates?
Nice annealing, what's your system? It's ok if I hijack my own thread, right?
Nice annealing, what's your system? It's ok if I hijack my own thread, right?
Re: Any Berger .338 hybrid updates?
I got a bunch of the first batch and never had a problem and they shoot absolutely phenomenal. I think the problems were not with 338LM's , but rather the Allen mags and the 408-338's that were pushing them well over 3100.
I got a bunch of the first batch and never had a problem and they shoot absolutely phenomenal. I think the problems were not with 338LM's , but rather the Allen mags and the 408-338's that were pushing them well over 3100.
Re: Any Berger .338 hybrid updates?
I have been following these a little. Looks like they have them fixed. Here is some good reading. 300 Berger's at 3400fps. Crazy!!!
http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f19/test-1-gen-2-berger-300-gr-hybrid-vld-72294/
http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f17/more-berger-300-hybrid-gen-2-testing-71642/
I have been following these a little. Looks like they have them fixed. Here is some good reading. 300 Berger's at 3400fps. Crazy!!!
http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f19/test-1-gen-2-berger-300-gr-hybrid-vld-72294/
http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f17/more-berger-300-hybrid-gen-2-testing-71642/
Re: Any Berger .338 hybrid updates?
Just a note to all Berger has done some repackaging of the the 338 300gr bullet.
Berger has changed the Stock # and description of the bullet (Generation II)
The move from Target SEction to the Tactical Section.
from 33401 338 Cal 300gr Match Target BT Hybrid (50)
to Stock
#33110 338 Cal 300gr Match Tactical Hybrid OTM
More will be shipping the end of the month.
As a side note the 30 cal 155gr Hybrids are shipping, and the the 30 168 and 30 Cal 230gr Hybrids to come later.
Just a note to all Berger has done some repackaging of the the 338 300gr bullet.
Berger has changed the Stock # and description of the bullet (Generation II)
The move from Target SEction to the Tactical Section.
from 33401 338 Cal 300gr Match Target BT Hybrid (50)
to Stock
#33110 338 Cal 300gr Match Tactical Hybrid OTM
More will be shipping the end of the month.
As a side note the 30 cal 155gr Hybrids are shipping, and the the 30 168 and 30 Cal 230gr Hybrids to come later.
Re: Any Berger .338 hybrid updates?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Plinker625</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As a side note the 30 cal 155gr Hybrids are shipping, and the the 30 168 and 30 Cal 230gr Hybrids to come later. </div></div>
Have they leaked the BC on these pills yet?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Plinker625</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As a side note the 30 cal 155gr Hybrids are shipping, and the the 30 168 and 30 Cal 230gr Hybrids to come later. </div></div>
Have they leaked the BC on these pills yet?
Re: Any Berger .338 hybrid updates?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim-VT</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nice annealing, what's your system? It's ok if I hijack my own thread, right? </div></div>
I could be wrong, but I believe that is the OEM Lapua annealing. If not - I would also like to know more about how he has done such a nice consistent job.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim-VT</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nice annealing, what's your system? It's ok if I hijack my own thread, right? </div></div>
I could be wrong, but I believe that is the OEM Lapua annealing. If not - I would also like to know more about how he has done such a nice consistent job.
Re: Any Berger .338 hybrid updates?
That was my initial thought, but if you look at the case head it would suggest they've been fired.
That was my initial thought, but if you look at the case head it would suggest they've been fired.
Re: Any Berger .338 hybrid updates?
Re: Any Berger .338 hybrid updates?
Ooooooooohhhhhhh a 230gr .30cal, I think I'm in love.
Cheers,
Doc
Ooooooooohhhhhhh a 230gr .30cal, I think I'm in love.
Cheers,
Doc
Re: Any Berger .338 hybrid updates?
These are all fired cases. Lapua did the aneiling I only wish I had a michine that would do it this well. I do all of mine the old way.
These are all fired cases. Lapua did the aneiling I only wish I had a michine that would do it this well. I do all of mine the old way.
Re: Any Berger .338 hybrid updates?
I didn't have a problem with the first run, using 338 LM at 2900 fps shot them from 100 to 1150 yards with no issues, and nice tight groups.
I didn't have a problem with the first run, using 338 LM at 2900 fps shot them from 100 to 1150 yards with no issues, and nice tight groups.
