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Any Cadex love out there?

mapkos13

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Been lurking for awhile combing through the discussion threads for some info on the Cadex products. Most of what I see is Cadex pic porn and some stuff for sale in accessories but nothing really outside of that though which seems surprising. Maybe the Canadians aren’t too popular here Or people don’t like that they use a C in Defense? (Disclosure half my family is from there)

If I read into this I’d believe either a) there isn't a big following or b) people don’t think highly of their rifles for hunting and or precision. Tikka and Ruger RPR etc. have a ton of discussion/passion around them amount many others. Nothing on Cadex. What gives?

BTW- I was sniffing round a CDX-30 for strictly range.

Thanks in advance for the insight.
 
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Cadex is a little new on the scene but they seem to have done nearly every thing right. I've never touched one of their products, but never heard a bad word from anyone who has.

And they post a lot of great pictures here on the Hide.
 
I don't know how many are sold down here, it seems like a small dealer network..

Cadex is in the same market as AI, Barrett, Sako, etc. High end, robust and precise factory rifle designed for mil and LE work. AI has a really strong portion of the market share of that specific market down here.

To break into such a strong market, you have to have a product that is either innovative, better and/or cheaper to break through. While they make really nice rifles, I don't think they've demonstrated that they are any of those things.

Cadex makes high quality gear. I'm not suggesting they don't make a product as good as AI. However, AI is a very known quantity, especially here on SH. In order for someone to choose a Cadex over an AI, they must think that Cadex has something going for them that AI can't provide.

Those are my thoughts. I'm actually Canadian (live in US now), so I'm pretty familiar with the brand. Personally, I don't think I would pick a Cadex over an AI myself. My biggest complaint with Cadex is the aesthetics - I can't stand how they look. They obviously make great gear though, they just need to find a way to break into the market down here.
 
@Long Range 338 is a huge cadex fan boi....🤣

Honestly the ones he's let me shoot have been pretty sweet I would def consider one
 
I love cadex, love how they look and perform. Being newer, there isn't as many options for non-cadex barrels and accessories. A lot of companies make barrels for AIs but almost none make them for Cadex.

That is certainly a consideration.

One place where Cadex seems to be doing well is the ELR market - a few ELR shooters and teams are using their chassis', and maybe even complete rifles/actions.
 
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Also a complete Kraken package from Cadex with a military discount is significantly less expensive than the equivalent from AI. I am not sure if AI does military/LEO discounts direct.
 
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Also a complete Kraken package from Cadex with a military discount is significantly less expensive than the equivalent from AI. I am not sure if AI does military/LEO discounts direct.
Do you happen to know what the military discount is and if Vets are eligible?
 
Huge Cadex Mx1 brake fan, almost bought a Cadex shadow earlier this year.. went w the AI AXSR over the Cadex but that was only due to the quick change barrel setup.. Cadex manufactures top quality products!
 
I love cadex, love how they look and perform. Being newer, there isn't as many options for non-cadex barrels and accessories. A lot of companies make barrels for AIs but almost none make them for Cadex.

That's my biggest issue with the AI vs cadex. You can get AI barrels anywhere. Besides other feel preferences.

With that said if I could easily get cadex prefits I would have picked up a cadex awhile ago to go along with my ais
 
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I believe it's 15%, I am not sure if it is only AD or also vets. That's a question for Cadex. I am sure if you shoot them an email they will put together a deal for you.
 
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Cadex is a little new on the scene but they seem to have done nearly every thing right. I've never touched one of their products, but never heard a bad word from anyone who has.

And they post a lot of great pictures here on the Hide.
Didn’t realize they were relatively new. guess they all have to start somewhere
 
@Long Range 338 is a huge cadex fan boi....🤣

Honestly the ones he's let me shoot have been pretty sweet I would def consider one
You got me...

The Cadex stuff is as good as anything out there IMO. Its sexy and its accurate. AI definitely has a leg up on them from an aftermarket support standpoint. Also AI has been in business much longer. Its a tough market segment they are in but they seem to be slowly gaining ground.

As stated, they are really doing well in the ELR market. Lots of custom actions being placed in the large chassis for the ELR segment. The multi caliber stuff is supposed to be very repeatable and accurate but caliber packages are only available from them.

If you are looking for a comp/range rifle I would wait for the appearance of the new STARS Pro rifle, that thing is shit hot!

Actions, chassis, triggers, and accessories are well thought out and well made. Even the Strike Nuke chassis that is more like a standard stock with all the options you would want.

Just as my AI's have a permanent slot in the line up, the Cadex's do as well.
 
Picked a Cadex Lite up here in the PX. As an AI fan, I was looking to test the waters with a rifle in the same class but notably different.

Mine is a 6.5 PRC and has proved to be a winner. The action is DLCd which is a thing of beauty. The barrel is a Bartlein. It’s heavy like an AI. The trigger is good (wouldn’t say great), about like a tuned Remington single stage. Feeds great. Comes with all the accessories you need for the thing right from the get go, with exception of ARCA compatibility — easily solved with sawtooth aftermarket parts.

Wish I would have bought one sooner.
 
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Have both a AXMC and the equivalent from Cadex The Kraken.

Cadex to me is the best cnc machining in the business, everything is absolutely perfect and clean.
Cadex does have the best quick change barrel on the market in my opinion, now I’ll explain what pros and cons are and you guys can decide.
The point of impact when removing the barrel and putting it back on is non existent, there is zero shift, this is due to the design of their quick change system and the notches on the face of the barrel in which you insert a tool from Cadex and a torque tool from them and torque the barrel on to a specific point that is marked on the tool so it’s the same every single time. Now thats the downside, it isn’t quite as quick as the axmc and some other quick changes out there, but it is more accurate, and it only takes like an extra minute/minute and a half to change the barrel. So that’s up for you guys to decide if the accuracy and no impact shift is worth the extra minute or two to change the barrel.
They use Bartlein barrels, so they are very accurate, their rifles are in the conversation for most accurate out there.

Now I will say, I am Canadian.. but I do give the slight edge to Ai. The bolt on the kraken is not nearly as smooth sliding back and forth as the Ai, and it’s not even close. But at the same time the opening and closing of the bolt on the kraken is very very slightly lighter. And I like the Ai trigger better. Plus the axmc has the double stack mags and therefore feeding is slightly better.

That being said the kraken is cnc machining beauty and arguably the nicest machined rifle out there. It could be argued that the kraken out of the factory is more accurate than the axmc and all other rifles in its class if for example you had 100 rifles of each and tested them due to the Bartlein barrels and their chambering and machining skills.

But at the end of the day their parts aren’t as widely available and especially barrels. So for you guys in the usa it is alot harder to get barrels so that’s why I think there not as many Cadex rifles out there as you would think. But in my opinion Cadex is one of the top 5 rifle companies out there and best at CNC and arguably the best poi shift quick change system on the market. They are extremly well built and rugged and solid! They really feel and look like it will last a lifetime. There’s a couple very small things that give the axmc the edge, but in my opinion the Kraken blows away all the Barret MRAD’s I’ve been behind.
 
You got me...

The Cadex stuff is as good as anything out there IMO. Its sexy and its accurate. AI definitely has a leg up on them from an aftermarket support standpoint. Also AI has been in business much longer. Its a tough market segment they are in but they seem to be slowly gaining ground.

As stated, they are really doing well in the ELR market. Lots of custom actions being placed in the large chassis for the ELR segment. The multi caliber stuff is supposed to be very repeatable and accurate but caliber packages are only available from them.

If you are looking for a comp/range rifle I would wait for the appearance of the new STARS Pro rifle, that thing is shit hot!

Actions, chassis, triggers, and accessories are well thought out and well made. Even the Strike Nuke chassis that is more like a standard stock with all the options you would want.

Just as my AI's have a permanent slot in the line up, the Cadex's do as well.
Looked at the Stars and you’re spot on. That thing is nice. Not sure when they hit the market if they haven’t already? Might be a made rush to snatch one up.
 
Looked at the Stars and you’re spot on. That thing is nice. Not sure when they hit the market if they haven’t already? Might be a made rush to snatch one up.

Supposed to be in the wild in the next few weeks.
 
My Guardian Lite 6.5CM is an incredible rifle. As good in every way as my AT-X, except 1. The quick change barrel in the AI makes it a winner for me. But I can get a Mag bolt for the Cadex which I can't get for the AI so there is that. Currently they are both here to stay but I may let go of the Cadex because between the AI and an Origin I have all my bases covered.
 
I think the CADEX rifles look "right". I would love to have a Kraken or Tremor. Their new rifle also looks very nice. But I have never gotten a chance to handle one. I have an AT, and I think that is the last time AI made a rifle which was aesthetically pleasing. the new ATX looks terrible, and somehow has feeding issues. that is not acceptable at this price point. If I were buying a new high end rifle right now, it would be a CADEX.
 
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I might get turned into a Cadex fanboi if I could find time to get to a range(I have 3 young sons that occupy my time). I purchased a la strike nuke evo chassis from the px earlier this year. It’s very solid and built well. I’ll only be shooting .30-06 for now but have plans to remage this rifle to the moon.

Edit: Are there any Cadex quick-change barrels from other manufacturers? From what I’ve heard the only negative is that the barrels are limited by twist rates. I’m not in the market for a Cadex action any time soon but this would definitely help them grow, if that’s something they’re looking for at this time
 
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Cadex makes a sweet rifle. I've a small heard of 4, still unfired. :)

Two big ones CDX40 and CDX50, and two juniors 308 and 6.5. One of these days, I'll get them ready for a range trip.

Quality, fit and finish with each of them is superb. They all came with a nice drag bag too!



@BuLLet

i think he has 1-2..i could be wrong but he seems to have 1-2 of everything lol
 
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Cadex makes a sweet rifle. I've a small heard of 4, still unfired. :)

Two big ones CDX40 and CDX50, and two juniors 308 and 6.5. One of these days, I'll get them ready for a range trip.

Quality, fit and finish with each of them is superb. They all came with a nice drag bag too!
We need pics of one of the safes lol
 
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Has anyone got a CDX 30/33 and can measure the interior width of the magazine sleeve? I'm just discussing an option with my gunsmith at the moment...

Also, my current Cadex. The arca is just a magpul that when trimmed and has the upper sanded flat fits perfectly

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Still haven’t recovered enough yet to scroll through that seedy magazine
 
I picked up a used Cadex FCP in 308 after having a Cadex chassis for my savage 10TR. I’m a fan of them though I don’t have a huge amount of experience with other high end rifles. Since I’m from Canukistan I see a lot of them. They use Bartlein barrels on the top tier rifles so it’s hard to improve on that and I’ve always thought their chassis looked badass. As others have said it will take a bit for a boutique Canadian company to take market share from the more known companies.
 

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Just a quick bone to pick with you, I’ve had a .300 NM barrel on order for my Kracken for about 6 months now and still waiting, what gives? Was told that it was ready to ship over 2 months ago, still not here. Could use some help
Contact Jamie at [email protected] and let him know your order info, is it direct from us? or from a dealer order number helps if you have it
 
Contact Jamie at [email protected] and let him know your order info, is it direct from us? or from a dealer order number helps if you have it
Thanks for the update and quick reply. I ordered it through a dealer, will have to get with them for that information.
I really enjoy the Kraken, it is extremely accurate and a joy to shoot. I’m also surprised at how little the recoil is for a .338 LM
 
Thanks for the update and quick reply. I ordered it through a dealer, will have to get with them for that information.
I really enjoy the Kraken, it is extremely accurate and a joy to shoot. I’m also surprised at how little the recoil is for a .338 LM
PM us the dealers name and I can check
 
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I have Cadex Kraken in 308, 6.5 cm and 300 Norma. There are no after market barrels, if any, that I am aware of, available due that each barrel is set up by Cadex based on the rifles s/n when ordered from Cadex. Barrels are acquired from Bartlin and are 5R, chambered by Cadex. The nice thing about a Cadex multi-cal rifle is you change the barrel, but you are using one chassis and one very good scope, thus saving you cash with having a number of rifles with multiple pieces of glass. Their trigger is fairly decent, adjustable and may be changed from single to 2 stage, which ever you wish. I did change the trigger to a Trigger Tech Diamond, another Cdn company. I really like my Cadex. Oh, and I am also am a Western Cdn Honker.

Cadex has been around since 1994.
 
If it wasn't for the barrel availability a Kraken would be the only rifle I would own. I sometimes travel to teach and to have only one gun to take through airport security that I could set up in the field for whatever class I was teaching would be great for when I'm going between cities or teaching more than one class. Problem is I'm very particular about my barrels not just on chamber but on length and twist as well. I like to get exactly what I want and that doesn't always fit with what they stock. It's unfortunate since as ingenious as the barrel change system is, as far as I can tell it's just a regular shouldered barrel with three notches cut into the chamber end to engage the splines on the torque tool. Too bad they can’t get the headspace tolerance close enough to use pre fits. They use recoil lugs with a +/- .001 thickness to set headspace. I will say this about them, their customer service is unreal. A few months back I contacted them to get a cost on getting my chassis refinished because it hadn't held up as well as I would have hoped. They not only replaced the chassis, they let me pick a new color as well. Even paid for me to ship it back to them.
 
Love my Cadex Strike Pro In sniper grey!
Maven RS.4 5-30x56 Amazing!
Defiance Anti S/A
Proof Carbon .308 20"
Another Proof comp profile 6mm 26" waiting for matches.
Check it out.
 

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That is much my take on most of the custom hi end actions and match rifles pushed and or talked about on this site. No one ever quantifies how these things are better, why they are better and specifically with empirical testing, engineering studies and actual hard empirical measurements how they differ from the competition in terms of materials, heat treats, manufacturing techniques, clearances, tolerances, lock time etc..... All you ever get is "better", "because", and "cost more"! I can tell you why too none of these small shops and gunsmiths even though they have years of experience will actually list a spread sheet with all of the measured variance from Remington, Savage, Tikka,Sako etc... because they afraid to get sued even if all of their information is well documented and true. So they are too cowardly to let truth speak so we just get "because, better, cost more, more precise" with nothing remotely like facts.

The more you want to charge me for an item the more I want to know why it is worth that price? If you are unwilling or unable to publicly make known exactly what I am getting that I can not get some place else for less your just a carpet bagger trying to scam me for all I am worth!

I have been in the automotive world since 1988, aviation since 1993 business since 1998, and engineering since 2001. If it is not documented, empirical and repeatable it is not real or does not matter! The product had better have dimension's and performance I can measure and test once I have purchased it! I have never had to sue anyone but I also do not put myself in a situation to pay for perceived undocumented benefits!

So it is not the price of a custom action I take issue with. It is not the idea that a custom made action can be made to better standards than a mass produced action. My problem is with documented performance or improvement above and beyond mass produced actions that are than accurazized. If your product can not be measured and guaranteed to produce a better result than say a Remington action machined and sleeved by Greg than why should I purchase it. How do I have recourse if your custom action or high end build does not produce results for me? How do I sue you for breach of contract?

In this day and age a companies reputation or word does not mean much compared to actual contractual guarantee with stringent specifications I as a customer can check upon receiving my purchased item. After all the selling point for custom actions is that they are somehow better than a mass produced action or rifle. The marketing is about the perception of precision but we are not given precision specifications to actual measure against!

Long before anyone was using custom actions for competition everyone used factory actions, then re-machined and modified factory actions and then and only then full on custom actions.

I think my first Neskia Bay action was $475 or $485 for just the action. Not sure what they are now but I know I could not get one for that price! I am not new to the idea of a custom action. My point is what can you document and what can you prove. If you can not document it and prove it and ligiate for lack of that quality than it is not real it is imagined!

If you are going to spend big for visual nonsense make sure you get some sort of guarantee in writing up front!

That's fine and all, but that is all essentially academical.

For many of us here on this website, it comes down to what works and what doesn't in the field, while providing the level of precision we feel we need/desire with our preferred features.

There's a plethora of features and specifications that makes some rifles more desirable than others for different objectives and preferences. There's certain action spec's that make some actions much more reliable in adverse field conditions than others. Custom barrels with custom chambers optimize precision and reliability. Features such as action footprint, trigger commonality, ARCA rails, scope rail integration and elevation, DBM options & magazine type are some of many features that any individual needs to thing about when buying a rifle.

Personally when I'm shooting in the field or at matches I have never once thought about engineering specifications or drawings (and I'm an engineer). I care if the rifle functions reliably in all conditions, shoots precisely, and has the features that I desire.
 
That is much my take on most of the custom hi end actions and match rifles pushed and or talked about on this site. No one ever quantifies how these things are better, why they are better and specifically with empirical testing, engineering studies and actual hard empirical measurements how they differ from the competition in terms of materials, heat treats, manufacturing techniques, clearances, tolerances, lock time etc..... All you ever get is "better", "because", and "cost more"! I can tell you why too none of these small shops and gunsmiths even though they have years of experience will actually list a spread sheet with all of the measured variance from Remington, Savage, Tikka,Sako etc... because they afraid to get sued even if all of their information is well documented and true. So they are too cowardly to let truth speak so we just get "because, better, cost more, more precise" with nothing remotely like facts.

The more you want to charge me for an item the more I want to know why it is worth that price? If you are unwilling or unable to publicly make known exactly what I am getting that I can not get some place else for less your just a carpet bagger trying to scam me for all I am worth!

I have been in the automotive world since 1988, aviation since 1993 business since 1998, and engineering since 2001. If it is not documented, empirical and repeatable it is not real or does not matter! The product had better have dimension's and performance I can measure and test once I have purchased it! I have never had to sue anyone but I also do not put myself in a situation to pay for perceived undocumented benefits!

So it is not the price of a custom action I take issue with. It is not the idea that a custom made action can be made to better standards than a mass produced action. My problem is with documented performance or improvement above and beyond mass produced actions that are than accurazized. If your product can not be measured and guaranteed to produce a better result than say a Remington action machined and sleeved by Greg than why should I purchase it. How do I have recourse if your custom action or high end build does not produce results for me? How do I sue you for breach of contract?

In this day and age a companies reputation or word does not mean much compared to actual contractual guarantee with stringent specifications I as a customer can check upon receiving my purchased item. After all the selling point for custom actions is that they are somehow better than a mass produced action or rifle. The marketing is about the perception of precision but we are not given precision specifications to actual measure against!

Long before anyone was using custom actions for competition everyone used factory actions, then re-machined and modified factory actions and then and only then full on custom actions.

I think my first Neskia Bay action was $475 or $485 for just the action. Not sure what they are now but I know I could not get one for that price! I am not new to the idea of a custom action. My point is what can you document and what can you prove. If you can not document it and prove it and ligiate for lack of that quality than it is not real it is imagined!

If you are going to spend big for visual nonsense make sure you get some sort of guarantee in writing up front!
You’re not comparing apples to apples here. You are concerned about the price difference between a rifle built to certain levels of quality and accuracy to perform in war zones and maintain the quality across thousands of units vs a Savage or Tikka purchased at a warehouse store? It doesn’t matter what smith works over your Savage, it’s still incapable of doing what the AI or Cadex does. If you need a hunting rifle grab your Savage. If you need a serious rifle for serious work in adverse conditions grab a serious rifle.
If the Tikka could do everything an expensive rifle can, why does the Sako TRG series exist? They each have their place.