Any chance for a bigger 7mm amax??

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I know there is someone here that has a little inside info from hornady, is their any chance that they are going to build a bigger bullet for the 7mm? I like the 162gr but Im looking for something more along the lines of the 180 heck maybe even reach the 200gr mark
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Re: Any chance for a bigger 7mm amax??

Need to tell everyone that the 162's are crap, don't waist your money, and If you already bought some, I'll take them off your hands for a nominal fee.
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I went 7mm because the 30's are limited and the 6.5 is gaining popularity. Hope people don't figure out the 7 has legs, I'll never be able to find bullets.
 
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This past summer I had the chance to talk to a Hornady Rep on the "chain store tour". They had the big Hornady product bus and all the literature. The rep said not a chance. They have their hands full right now trying to keep up with the heavy .308 bullets and the now even higher demand for 6.5 bullets. 7mm is staying right where it's at for at least the next few years.
 
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Why such an emphasis on big .30's? The .284 is such a more impressive round than a heavy 30. I mean I know the 300wm is an awesome very capable round as well especially with the big 208 amax. But could you imagine a 7mm shooting a 208? I mean the 180 bergers for the 7mm have a higher bc than the rest of the big 30 amax line! If they have such a demand why dont they expand a little. And do they think if they expand its going to go away, I would venture to say that shooting is going to get way way more popular in years to come I know 5 people this year that took it up and never shot a rifle until this year. I may have had a little push and something to do with it but still thats whats going to happen from now on. Its going to continue to grow.
 
Re: Any chance for a bigger 7mm amax??

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Goin'Hot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You'd almost think this would be a great oportunity for ornady to expand their buisness and capitalize on the demand.</div></div>

They are with building new buildings but the demand is still so high they are getting bullets out as fast as they can make them.

Here's a little info from my Teammate Tony in another thread where people were wondering why they can't find 208 AMAX. Just gives a little explanation as to the huge demand:

"I was on the phone with 2 main parties at Hornady last night getting info on the new release info that was pushed out today.

We get alot of inside information and do alot of info passing to them with info from the shooters we shoot with.

So we do have a very solid info base from within.

Some of the production stuff that many don't understand is that certain machines are used for the multiple bullets. Those machines take a day or so to convert and set up a new caliber. So they dont stop a machine making ammo just to make a run of something else. The loss of down time for machines not running is huge and would create a even bigger back log.

So they tend to do big runs on bullets until the machine either breaks down, needs work, or ammo isnt to spec which means they shut it down and make the switch out to another caliber.

There is alot more to it but in the end demand is huge!! They have monster size ammo orders from the large companies like midway and creedmoor and their other large distibutors.

The other main fact is that in the last 5 years Hornady has rapidly grown to become a leader in the tactical shooting arena with all there quality offerings. Alot of shooters are getting great accuracy and results from the Hornady line and the demand has went through the roof.

Hornady continues to buy more machinery and build more buildings to eventually help fill the demand for there products. But like anything it takes time.

But in the end machines are being ran at full production. Yes there is a shortage on 208's now. But the machines are still making money pumping out say 6.5 Creedmoor. When they run 208's we will eventually shoot up all the 178's and then there will be a shortage of them and so on and so on.

In the end there is only so many machines and a LARGE fan base that will buy up and create a shortage on multiple bullet types.

Add to the fact that the 168 Gr Amax is being loaded up in there TAP line for the military and Law Enforcement as well as being loaded up in the M1 Garand load for CMP at a lighting pace.

I also just called my guy again to confirm the info above and to make sure I have up to the second info for you.

The AMAX bullet is 100% not going anywhere!!!

There will also be a another product release tomorrow as well.

Also confirmed is large runs are completed entered in the system and shipped and ammo is on back order within minutes.


John I agree the 208 Gr Amax has grown in popularity in multiple areas but that popularity is probably lower then alot of other bullets that are being made by Hornady. Unfortuanly this round is a round that seems to get limited run time with a high demand by shooters. I was told they are looking into what they can do to get more of it rolling out the door but we as shooters are buying everything they are making faster then they can make it."
 
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Yeah I see what your meaning, I called a company when 6mm amax's got in they had 35 they got their that morning. I ordered 5 I him hawed around for a bit and asked him to check the inventory again cause i thought about 5 more. He said they were down to 10 lol so in 15 minutes they went from 35 boxes to 10.

But like I said is their any chance they are working on some 200+gr for the .284?
 
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Ouch!

RE: 200 gr. in .284

The biggest issue with going that heavy is not many barrels out there are twisted for it. Look at how many years it took the 6mm crowd to go to a faster twist than 1-10" For the 6.5mm crowd it was pretty easy. The Swede's started that bullet @ 1-8.5" clear back in 1896. That's eighteen not nineteen. So, it came as a standard for that caliber. Unfortunately, the 7mm didn't stay with the European (Mauser) standard of 1-8.5" that the '92-'95 Mausers had, it got Americanized with the Remington 7mm Rem mag release of 1-10" I think that was just to simplify things. The 1-10" will stabilize 175 gr. round nose, but not spitzers. So, when Speer, Nosler and Sierra came out with these heavy bullets and no one could shoot them, they changed their twists just enough. Anywhere from 1-9" to 1-9.5". Now that seems to be more the industry standard. And until rifle and ammo makers started twisting some of these bigger calibers a little tighter they won't stabilize the 200's.

Hope that explanation helps. I also agree %100 with Rob01 that production is at max. Slowing down to make changes is just going to cause more delays. But, they are working up to it.
 
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Thanks for that info as well but I'm already at a 9 twist so I'm somewhat setup for a heavier bullet. But would have no issues selling my current barrel and going to am 8.5 if needed be.
 
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Ouch!

FWIW, I shoot a 1-8" twist Shilen in 7mm-08 with a 26" barrel just so I can stabilize the 180's. I can get 2700 fps out of my longer barrel with the 180's.

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I could go to 200's even with as slow as the 7mm-08 will push them. But, I have to be able to get a hold of them first.