Re: Any thoughts on the NRA's response today?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eleaf</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: queequeg</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eleaf</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There is no reason why they couldn't have come out in support of the 2A without throwing the 1st under the bus. </div></div>
Please provide links to where the 1st amendment was "Thrown under the bus"?
And if there is no better definition of a shop worn expression, it is that one.
I'm not a fan of Wayne LaPierre and wonder, often, why he is the permanent CEO of the NRA as though it is some third world duchy. That said, I think taking it to the media who A) whole heartedly gave their allegiance to the anti-2nd amendment cause, 2)do everything they can to maintain the ever more coarse and death embracing culture they so profit from and 3) censor or denounce any effort to bring attention to the above, is apt.
The NRA says we don't have a 1st amendment without the 2nd. True to a point. But we also don't have a first amendment resembling anything related to it's original intent when Marxist judges interpret it to mean the framers intended the taxpayer must subsidize excrement thrown at the images of one faith (Art!) while jailing those who appear to blaspheme against another (Hate speech).
All the while, the constitutionally protected press does little in service to its original duty but instead cherry picks those who may join its ranks(and remain among them), colludes with one political party for their mutual benefit and the condemnation of the other and then demonizes those who see it and point it out. </div></div>
When you try and divert attention away from guns (a good and just move), and try to focus said attention on video games and movies and other forms of violent media, you have thrown the 1A under the bus. And that is exactly what LaPierre did.
From LaPierre's speech:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And here's another dirty little truth that the media try their best to conceal: There exists in this country a callous, corrupt and corrupting shadow industry that sells, and sows, violence against its own people.
Through vicious, violent video games with names like Bulletstorm, Grand Theft Auto, Mortal Kombat and Splatterhouse. And here's one: it's called Kindergarten Killers. It's been online for 10 years. How come my research department could find it and all of yours either couldn't or didn't want anyone to know you had found it?
Then there's the blood-soaked slasher films like "American Psycho" and "Natural Born Killers" that are aired like propaganda loops on "Splatterdays" and every day, and a thousand music videos that portray life as a joke and murder as a way of life. And then they have the nerve to call it "entertainment."
But is that what it really is? Isn't fantasizing about killing people as a way to get your kicks really the filthiest form of pornography?
In a race to the bottom, media conglomerates compete with one another to shock, violate and offend every standard of civilized society by bringing an ever-more-toxic mix of reckless behavior and criminal cruelty into our homes — every minute of every day of every month of every year.
A child growing up in America witnesses 16,000 murders and 200,000 acts of violence by the time he or she reaches the ripe old age of 18.</div></div>
He's blaming media (and THE media). Movies, books, video games, all nothing if not expressions guaranteed us by the 1st Amendment, and he's no less full of shit than the gun grabbers who want to blame nothing but the availability of guns to law abiding citizens.
The BoR is not a buffet from which you can pick and choose. If you don't defend all of our rights, you're effectively defending none of them.
So, as I said originally, there is no reason he couldn't stick up for the 2A without throwing the 1A under the bus. </div></div>
Sorry man but I could not disagree more. To suggest that is an assault against he first amendment is absurd. It speaks entirely to the coarsening of society that is the fundamental difference between the way things are today and how they were 50 years ago.
There isn't a single thing that little fuck did in Newtown that could not have been done with a pump rifle, lever gun, revolver or other non-self loading rifle, yet this shit simply did not happen back in the day when everyone kept their rifles in open cabinets, closets or the corner of the kitchen.
LaPierre spoke to the psychosis, the sociopathy, that is extant in our societies today and almost no one is willing to face that. It is now a question of which delusion the laziest among us are going to pretend to grapple with; that we can ban all guns or that we can desist with the brainwashing of billions that has been ongoing for decades in ways few people are willing to face. Too many of us have gone well past the level of indifference toward our fellow man into an outright delight in contriving their demise.
The revenue derived from such coarseness is unimaginable and vastly dwarfs that of the firearms industry and those of us who partake in their products for our many uses. Thus, the lazy will once again be directed to the easiest symptom and continue to delude themselves that 50 years of debasement of humanity has had no effect on the way people regard human life.
Merry Christmas!
