Gunsmithing Anybody use Butch's Triple-Twill Patches??

[1911hombre]

Specifically the .22-.270 patches (1.25" square). Been using these in my 5.56 small frame guns for years. I use a Dewey rod and Dewy pointed jag. My last batch were a tight fit; you kinda had to take a run at it or bump them through with the heel of your hand. I got used to this and felt they were doing a good job because they fit so tight. Just ordered a new bag of these and the new ones are a little thinner and push through super easy.
Just wondering if anyone else has noticed this. Thinking about a different jag, but I'm used to the pointed ones.

 

[Taylorbok]

I haven't used those patches but I've got some .220 patches from Pro-Shot and they are so tight you cant get them through the bore

 

[DMP]

Sometimes jags can vary. I've had 6.5 jags from different makers that are different. Some times a thick patch might need a 6mm jag in my case.

 

[Taylorbok]

Sometimes jags can vary. I've had 6.5 jags from different makers that are different. Some times a thick patch might need a 6mm jag in my case.

Not sure why I didn't think of that, Duh. I've got every size of jag

 

[Aftermath]

Sometimes jags can vary. I've had 6.5 jags from different makers that are different. Some times a thick patch might need a 6mm jag in my case.

This.
Also, you can vary just how much of the patch is between the jag and the bore by piercing near a corner instead of centered.

 

[1911hombre]

Unfortunately there's no "upsize" jag that'll work for .22 cal., and I don't want to use a Parker-Hale jag.

 

[Taylorbok]

Unfortunately there's no "upsize" jag that'll work for .22 cal., and I don't want to use a Parker-Hale jag.

Try doubling up patches, Ive done that lots

 

[Taylorbok]

This.
Also, you can vary just how much of the patch is between the jag and the bore by piercing near a corner instead of centered.

On the tight 22 cal ones I had I tried offsetting them but still wouldn’t go, never had that problem but now I need to go get the thing dirty and try a 20 cal jag

 

[Thud]

As said above place patch off center and push through.
Or if jag is to big place it in a drill with some emery cloth to reduce the diameter. Make sure you clean it well.
Use your brain to come up with a fix.

 

[Taylorbok]

As said above place patch off center and push through.
Or if jag is to big place it in a drill with some emery cloth to reduce the diameter. Make sure you clean it well.
Use your brain to come up with a fix.

Making a jag smaller is a good idea also but the last brand of patches I had was loose so I’d double up patches. Would suck to make one smaller and then need it bigger in a couple months. Which jags are cheap so not a huge deal

 

[Aftermath]

On the tight 22 cal ones I had I tried offsetting them but still wouldn’t go, never had that problem but now I need to go get the thing dirty and try a 20 cal jag

Or even a 17, maybe?
I mean...there is this really cool new invention called "scissors" and it might just help, too.

 

[Taylorbok]

Or even a 17, maybe?
I mean...there is this really cool new invention called "scissors" and it might just help, too.

For the price of patches I would toss them away and try a different brand before I sat there and cut every patch

 

[hlee]

Dude, if the patches are too loose in the bore, just double up the patches. You can reuse the “inner” patch if it doesn’t come out too dirty.

 

[1911hombre]

Dude, if the patches are too loose in the bore, just double up the patches. You can reuse the “inner” patch if it doesn’t come out too dirty.

If I double up, I can make it about a half inch down the bore. Impossible, at least in my situation. My original question here was only if anybody else noticed a difference in newer Butch’s patches. Thanks for the replies.

 

[supercorndogs]

For the price of patches I would toss them away and try a different brand before I sat there and cut every patch

you don't have to sit down and cut every patch at once. What do you need for a cleaning 10 patches? I grab a little stack out of the bag and cut them before i start peeling them apart. Usually about 8-10 at a time. Sure beats cutting them out of old t shirts and old underwear like when I was a kid anyway.

 

[Aftermath]

I have a huge pile of various sizes from https://southernbloomer.com
I have not found any skidmarks yet

 

[cas6969]

This is something that's baffled me my whole life. "What am I doing wrong?" Using a single caliber specific patch and a caliber specific jag, and it's doesn't fit short of pounding on the rod with a hammer. And it's not patch / brand specific problem or jag specific problem. "How can this shit fit/work right only about 25% of the time and not work most of the time?" You end up trimming patches, or double up the wrong patches, or using a smaller jag, or wrapping the patch around a brush... "How is it I've never figured this out in almost 50 years of shooting!?!?!" I've ended up with a huge assortment of patches and jags and have to fiddle and figure out the right combination every single time. It sucks.