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So after sitting through umpteen (required) 'talks' about racial diversity and tolerance in the past few months my patience is wearing very thin.

On the one hand, I want to do right by people--everyone gets a fair shake, have the police tone it down some (I have had my own interactions that color this view), but generally go by the "Do be a jerk" motto. (and make no mistake--I am NOT a defund the police dood--99.99% of the time we get it right--when a cop screws up they get fired).

I have watched serious arguments (at work--fortune 500 company) over the last few weeks of
  • People arguing that the yellow skin tone in a symbol of white supremacy
  • "I don't see color" is now a microagression against black people
  • Rioting is ok because police murdered someone
  • When a black person was asked to let others talk because the meeting was for "allies" someone asked if he self-identified as black (I spit my drink out in laughter on this one)
  • Everyone meeting we have to introduce ourselves by our preferred gender and sexual identity. (Seriously--what is the F does that have to do with how I do my job).
  • Everything is the white man's fault
I dunno what i really wanted other than to just vent some frustration and say I've about had it for being the whipping boy of societies problems. I try to treat everyone the best and am tired of getting blamed for crap people did 150 years ago or even 50 years ago. Plus the pure hypocrisy of people saying they don't feel "included" at work. Yeah, wonder what's that like when you have to hide your political affiliation and hobbies for fear of offending half the snowflakes who hear "gun" and get triggered (no pun intended and yes, I have been reported in the past for discussing sport shooting IN TEXAS at work).

Anyone else feeling that or do I need to STFU and go shooting (to be fair, it was 110 this weekend--no shooting/reloading/practice for me!)
I hate myself for not having thicker skin, but this crap is just unreal.
 
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I don't believe it does any good. It just makes it harder to understand how to be authentic and open because it makes people feel they have to be en guard all the time which is suppressive.

at the end of the day, if a culture doesn't foster self-respect, self-determination, societal respect and lawfulness then what good is a training video going to do anyone?
 
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Screw all that Marxist BS. I don't care. I tell them to pound sand. I am 68. I remember a country before the Marxist revolution. You know, the one I will single-handedly defeat if I have to. In short IDGAF. And get off my lawn. It would be dangerous to someone's health to ignore me.
 
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It's just another way to separate people and put them in different boxes. Makes it easier to attack them once they are separated. If you don't like their progressive ideas they can label you and have everyone against you. United we stand divided we fall.
 
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lol beat down by this trash

nauseate , yes pissed , defiantly , wanting to see socialist float face down in a pool oh yea baby .
 
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DocRDS said:
So after sitting through umpteen (required) 'talks' about racial diversity and tolerance in the past few months my patience is wearing very thin.

On the one hand, I want to do right by people--everyone gets a fair shake, have the police tone it down some (I have had my own interactions that color this view), but generally go by the "Do be a jerk" motto. (and make no mistake--I am NOT a defund the police dood--99.99% of the time we get it right--when a cop screws up they get fired).

I have watched serious arguments (at work--fortune 500 company) over the last few weeks of
  • People arguing that the yellow skin tone in a symbol of white supremacy
  • "I don't see color" is now a microagression against black people
  • Rioting is ok because police murdered someone
  • When a black person was asked to let others talk because the meeting was for "allies" someone asked if he self-identified as black (I spit my drink out in laughter on this one)
  • Everyone meeting we have to introduce ourselves by our preferred gender and sexual identity. (Seriously--what is the F does that have to do with how I do my job).
  • Everything is the white man's fault
I dunno what i really wanted other than to just vent some frustration and say I've about had it for being the whipping boy of societies problems. I try to treat everyone the best and am tired of getting blamed for crap people did 150 years ago or even 50 years ago. Plus the pure hypocrisy of people saying they don't feel "included" at work. Yeah, wonder what's that like when you have to hide your political affiliation and hobbies for fear of offending half the snowflakes who hear "gun" and get triggered (no pun intended and yes, I have been reported in the past for discussing sport shooting IN TEXAS at work).

Anyone else feeling that or do I need to STFU and go shooting (to be fair, it was 110 this weekend--no shooting/reloading/practice for me!)
I hate myself for not having thicker skin, but this crap is just unreal.
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Sounds like you work for LM.
Communists took over.
 
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Have fun with it while throwing it back in their face how stupid their bullshit is. Change up your sexual identity each day or meeting. And if they don’t use the proper pronoun, blow up, throw a huge fit and take them to HR.

Example:

Today I am a toaster oven
Tomorrow I will be an attack helicopter
Wednesday maybe a coconut
Thursday a hamster
Friday a pina colada.

mix it up. Let them figure what the pronoun for those are.
 
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It's not you, and you don't need to STFU...

hic28 said:
Have fun with it while throwing it back in their face how stupid their bullshit is. Change up your sexual identity each day or meeting. And if they don’t use the proper pronoun, blow up, throw a huge fit and take them to HR.

Example:

Today I am a toaster oven
Tomorrow I will be an attack helicopter
Wednesday maybe a coconut
Thursday a hamster
Friday a pina colada.

mix it up. Let them figure what the pronoun for those are.
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EXACTLY - lots of fun to be had with this. Demonstrates how F*****G stoopid it all is. My last background check I identified as a platypus, the lady doing the paperwork cracked the f*** up.

Somebody here posted this - haven't had time yet, but hopefully worth the time.

 
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So it's not just me! Sneaking my guns out to the truck so neighbors won't see. Worried about what flags I fly in front of my house, and what will happen to my truck if I do fly a Trump flag. Not wearing my favorite t-shirt out in public due to aggressive reactions it could cause. Getting banned off a web site for referring to B*M for what they really stand for. Avoiding parts of certain towns due to the stickers on my truck. Getting confronted at my last job due to the American flag tattoo on my arm. So on and so on.....Yup, times have changed.
And here I sit, wondering if I should hit "Post Reply". I did after all mention the President's name.
If no one ever sees another post from me, you will know what happened....Stay strong. We are not wrong.
 
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Whomever said "History does not repeat itself", didn't live in the early 60's (I was a young kid then). I remember some of that time in my life and I really don't want to relive it. All this shit going on, is sending us backwards. So yeah, I'm feeling "beat down", somewhat, anyways. Mac:(
 
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DocRDS said:
So after sitting through umpteen (required) 'talks' about racial diversity and tolerance in the past few months my patience is wearing very thin.

On the one hand, I want to do right by people--everyone gets a fair shake, have the police tone it down some (I have had my own interactions that color this view), but generally go by the "Do be a jerk" motto. (and make no mistake--I am NOT a defund the police dood--99.99% of the time we get it right--when a cop screws up they get fired).

I have watched serious arguments (at work--fortune 500 company) over the last few weeks of
  • People arguing that the yellow skin tone in a symbol of white supremacy
  • "I don't see color" is now a microagression against black people
  • Rioting is ok because police murdered someone
  • When a black person was asked to let others talk because the meeting was for "allies" someone asked if he self-identified as black (I spit my drink out in laughter on this one)
  • Everyone meeting we have to introduce ourselves by our preferred gender and sexual identity. (Seriously--what is the F does that have to do with how I do my job).
  • Everything is the white man's fault
I dunno what i really wanted other than to just vent some frustration and say I've about had it for being the whipping boy of societies problems. I try to treat everyone the best and am tired of getting blamed for crap people did 150 years ago or even 50 years ago. Plus the pure hypocrisy of people saying they don't feel "included" at work. Yeah, wonder what's that like when you have to hide your political affiliation and hobbies for fear of offending half the snowflakes who hear "gun" and get triggered (no pun intended and yes, I have been reported in the past for discussing sport shooting IN TEXAS at work).

Anyone else feeling that or do I need to STFU and go shooting (to be fair, it was 110 this weekend--no shooting/reloading/practice for me!)
I hate myself for not having thicker skin, but this crap is just unreal.
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I am in exactly the same position as you are. I read emails from execs and listen to them speak. I am angered but I always remember the following to ease the urge to tell them to fuck off
  1. I am paid, very well, to do a job.
  2. I really like my job...a lot and that has little to do with the compensation.
  3. I may have to listen to shit and get training to prevent "bias" from entering my decisions...LMAO. That is part of the job and the phenomenal pay. Small price to pay.
  4. I am free to say what I want knowing that every decision has consequences and I am OK with that.
  5. I don't have to eat or drink with these people...all I have to do is keep things professional and do my job and collect a fat paycheck and a shit ton of stock.
If you like or love your work, the compensation and the benefits, you need to develop a thicker skin. If not, then have at it and go out in a blaze of glory....not really. That shit follows you everywhere.
 
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Its good to hear I am not alone--I REALLY want to get to that place some of our more "Seasoned" members have that are similar in age to my dad (70). Probably the nicest guy you'll ever meet and so proudly "Do not give a crap" that sometimes I wonder how he is still employed (Counting the days to retirement, he's under 80 left).

Being middle aged, I have the advantage or remembering when we all essentially got along--before all the agitators started stirring up crap and placing us against ourselves (but not old enough to have experienced the late 60s). But also being a study of history--scared as F that this resembles the red guard of China (you don't agree comrade? Bang!)
 
You're not alone. My wife and I work at a very liberal federal job(s). When we were in the office before covid all the water cooler talk was Trump this, Trump that, obviously not in a good way. Some days it got so bad I just had to go take a walk. I'm assuming at some point we will have mandatory racism training. Right now it's just optional seminars.
Let it roll off your back. The left will always have some crisis and new victims that need special attention. This is a crazy time to be a conservative in America. No sense bringing trouble to where you live but just know there are many that feel the same as you do but can't show it.
 
Nik H said:
I am in exactly the same position as you are. I read emails from execs and listen to them speak. I am angered but I always remember the following to ease the urge to tell them to fuck off
  1. I am paid, very well, to do a job.
  2. I really like my job...a lot and that has little to do with the compensation.
  3. I may have to listen to shit and get training to prevent "bias" from entering my decisions...LMAO. That is part of the job and the phenomenal pay. Small price to pay.
  4. I am free to say what I want knowing that every decision has consequences and I am OK with that.
  5. I don't have to eat or drink with these people...all I have to do is keep things professional and do my job and collect a fat paycheck and a shit ton of stock.
If you like or love your work, the compensation and the benefits, you need to develop a thicker skin. If not, then have at it and go out in a blue of glory....not really. That shit follows you everywhere.
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You could not pay me enough $$$ to listen to this kind of shit every day, I would rather live in a poor white trash trailer park than listen to this shit, you have to draw the line somewhere and ask yourself is it really worth it, for me not just no but FUCK NO, money is not everything I have to have a little self respect.
 
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Every hard working American over the age of 2 years old is frustrated. Retirees are frustrated. School children are frustrated. Middle class America is frustrated.

Frustration is just one more "tool" being used to divide the country. The "cancel culture" has reached the point to where major airlines are not charging a fee to reschedule a flight... Ponder on that one.

The supply chain is stretching thin and inflation is at 2% / month.... Frustrating.

About all we can do is to recognize "frustration" and find our very own way to vent some of it off.... I wish I had an answer.

Hobo
 
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You could not pay me enough $$$ to listen to this kind of shit every day, I would rather live in a poor white trash trailer park than listen to this shit, you have to draw the line somewhere and ask yourself is it really worth it, for me not just no but FUCK NO, money is not everything I have to have a little self respect.
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That is certainly your right to do so.

Money is but one factor. Thought I made that clear. I love what I do. That is why I do it. The compensation is a bonus. I don't need to work in an echo chamber
 
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I don’t have to listen to all that shit yet. Since getting a supervisor position in a steel mill, 3 years ago the worst I’ve had to deal with sensitivity/ harassment training. More less how to work with women and not be in trouble for sexual harassment, and dealing with millennials and their emotions. I don’t know that I could handle the lgbqrstuvwxy gender fluid crap. Already tempted to draw out my 401k and disappear with my family into the hills.
 
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I understand your reasoning and it is valid as anything of course.

I would rather work in an echo chamber than work with people who are actively taking part in the destruction of this country by at the bare minimum supporting the communist cancer here in the States and at the worst trying to conform others that already think correctly. They would love nothing more than for someone to be gone from the world if they knew my real thoughts and I am to real a person to hide them. I would never sit through any brainswashing class as I have too much dignity and self respect.
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That is an interesting perspective. However, I don't believe I am working with anyone ACTIVELY taking part in...The reality is that most people I work with, even though VERY liberal and ant-TRUMP, do not agree with the looting and the violent protests going on in many places like Portland and Seattle. I hear that a lot and I have no reason to disbelieve it. I find that most "protestors" regardless of side wear their heart on a sleeve. It is easy to tell what they believe. The people I interact with would not take part in an active protest wearing the ANTIFA uniform. They are simply not capable of that.

Believe it or not, the training metered out today is no different than it has been for a LONG time. It has been part of corporate America for a long time. I have been taking classes in discrimination of all types since I started management roles in the 90s. Add sensitivity training, harassment training, LGB blah blah blah training and it has always been there. I do believe it is more commonplace now because of the on-line nature of training. Companies no longer need to assemble workers into a large auditorium. On-line classes make it easier to administer. Anyone that works in a corporate (Fortune 500 and better) company in any type of management role has faced it. Not so sure why everyone is fixated on it to the degree that they do now.

No training I have taken praises anything you see on MSM. The fact is that MSM is probably the single largest root problem that this country has yet to deal with. It will drive us into an internal war because people are sheep and follow what their echo chamber tells them to.

I don't fear differences of opinion. In fact, I like knowing who stands for what. As I said, I don't socialize with work people. The reality is that you can't run any longer. It is all around you so you need to learn to live with it or you will be a miserable SOB.

Life is 10% what you make of it and 90% of how you take it
 
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Clothes don't make the man ..........
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Can we just go start our own country yet? Yes, I’m tired of the BS. I just turned 40, feel like I’m 140. It ain’t the years, it’s the miles. The weight of it all is too much and then to try and raise kids in this mess is disheartening because I don’t know that we can fix it and to know my kids might have to deal with it and that they won’t know the America I knew is very sad to me. Frankly, I don’t know what to do anymore. I, like many others, just want to be left alone. You shouldn’t have to live in a constant state of hyper alertness when you leave your home because your country has become a damn 3rd world shit hole. It’s just sad. Can’t even enjoy vacation anymore because you constantly have to have your head on a swivel. I’m at a loss for words. Been drinking more lately and getting fat. No drive. Just sad.
 
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Nik H said:
That is certainly your right to do so.

Money is but one factor. Thought I made that clear. I love what I do. That is why I do it. The compensation is a bonus. I don't need to work in an echo chamber
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I truly understand loving what you do, I loved what I did most of my career (construction) there was a sense of pride to drive by a building and say I built that, I drive by almost every day a historic renovated school i built 20 years ago. it was a huge and complicated job and it still looks great and there is a sense of pride in that (that's when I still loved my job) the last 10 to 15 years I have loved it less and less, just all the political bullshit even on construction sites. If you're in the corporate world I'm sure it's even worse. Trust me the love will eventually start to fade and you will one day tell yourself I cant do this shit anymore, I've been saying that to myself for the last five years. Recently retired and love everything about it, guess you just have to put up with a little bullshit to get what you want. I think the shit going on today is just way over the top and I want no part of it, want to sit back in my little part of the world shoot when I want do what I want everything's good.
 
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mikie, he needs to be self employed, work half the day, half a week and make bank like a king...
at least thats what i hear from folks.
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Working half a day is an inside joke for self-employed people. Half a day is 12 hrs. We joke because everyone on the outside looking in thinks we make our own rules and are masters of our freedom, yet a 12 hr day is a short day for a successful self-employed person.
 
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To follow up, Im 70 and have seen and lived through enough shit for several lifetimes. I live my life simply, try to treat all with dignity and respect, and help out where possible. I got no more to give or put up with. If they try they'll just have to kill me and Ill go down in a pile of brass.

Fuck'em.
 
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Nik H said:
I am in exactly the same position as you are. I read emails from execs and listen to them speak. I am angered but I always remember the following to ease the urge to tell them to fuck off
  1. I am paid, very well, to do a job.
  2. I really like my job...a lot and that has little to do with the compensation.
  3. I may have to listen to shit and get training to prevent "bias" from entering my decisions...LMAO. That is part of the job and the phenomenal pay. Small price to pay.
  4. I am free to say what I want knowing that every decision has consequences and I am OK with that.
  5. I don't have to eat or drink with these people...all I have to do is keep things professional and do my job and collect a fat paycheck and a shit ton of stock.
If you like or love your work, the compensation and the benefits, you need to develop a thicker skin. If not, then have at it and go out in a blaze of glory....not really. That shit follows you everywhere.
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Ya know, the no lube butt sex is rough, but it pays good, so....
What you are describing is gutless prostitution. If you can’t or won’t stand up for yourself, it is impossible to have any respect.
I don’t know you at all, so please don’t take this as a personal attack, I just believe your line of thinking is pretty rancid.
 
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It's sad when I think of the things I said to therapists over the last few years are coming true. Guess who's calling me now for an hour of my time.....LMAO......
 
Maggot said:
To follow up, Im 70 and have seen and lived through enough shit for several lifetimes. I live my life simply, try to treat all with dignity and respect, and help out where possible. I got no more to give or put up with. If they try they'll just have to kill me and Ill go down in a pile of brass.

Fuck'em.
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Maggot, thank you for this I'm 68 and these are my feelings exactly.
 
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Ya know, the no lube butt sex is rough, but it pays good, so....
What you are describing is gutless prostitution. If you can’t or won’t stand up for yourself, it is impossible to have any respect.
I don’t know you at all, so please don’t take this as a personal attack, I just believe your line of thinking is pretty rancid.
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That's OK bud...I find your conclusions and ad hominem verbiage quite indicative of your lack of character and thought process
 
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I completely understand and feel the same way. I try and avoid the people I know will raise my stress level at work, not because I don’t want to respond but I know I will. It’s just the reality of working in a corporate environment, but I’m trying to make plans to downsize and move to a small town, I’m almost to the point of accepting that I will be much happier making much less and not have to put up with the aggravation.
 
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HeavyAssault said:
It's sad when I think of the things I said to therapists over the last few years are coming true. Guess who's calling me now for an hour of my time.....LMAO......
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Man i was talking to mine and he was like: Buddy you got a big target on your back. Was not helpful. Ok it kinda was to just hear I'm not FN crazy.

I have tried to speak clearly at work and try and present an alternative. Its reminds me of the time as a kid where i got caught in the fire hydrant stream that was too powerful. Broken, battered, wet and confused on the other end.
 
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