I usually use a Bushnell Match Pro 6-24 on a Tikka T1X for base class. Got a vudoo recently and haven’t decided on a scope so I put a Mk5 5-25 I had set aside for a centerfire rifle on it for now. Wondering if it’s possible to hit the 1/4” at 35 yards considering parallax?
- Thread starter farofeiro
- Start date
More than likely. My Premier doesn't hardly parallax at 50yds and I didn't have any trouble. Being blurry actually helped seeing the bullet miss left or right at such a close distance (25yds). I hit more 25yd'ers than I missed.
Plus I would be wanting the quality optic for longer shots in terms of tracking/reliability.
I ended up getting a used Razor Gen 2 cheap. Figured the 35yd parallax and an extra 2X magnification would be an improvement. Yes, it was....but it wasn't as forgiving between yardages. So there's always shit you don't know till you kinda try it out.
Plus I would be wanting the quality optic for longer shots in terms of tracking/reliability.
I ended up getting a used Razor Gen 2 cheap. Figured the 35yd parallax and an extra 2X magnification would be an improvement. Yes, it was....but it wasn't as forgiving between yardages. So there's always shit you don't know till you kinda try it out.
Last edited:
I am waiting for my Vudoo and have a MK5 I've been playing with off a bag and tripod trying to see how it would be at closer ranges...for me I am pretty sure its going to be a no go...at closer ranges I have to dial the magnification way down to get a semi clear picture which basically turns the reticle into a cross for my eyes and still have blur or out of focus targets.
I also have a Vortex Strike Eagle which works better at closer ranges but the glass is lacking...its not horrible but after spending an hour or two behind it I really start feeling the eye strain. I think a GEN2 razor would be a good choice but I just can not get past the color and that's after owning 2 of them.
I have a Ziess S3 4-25 ordered, should have it next week and I think/hopping this is going to be a great Rim fire scope as long as the glass is as good as most ppl are saying...also from what I understand the reticle is a little thicker which will be a bonus for me.
I also have a Vortex Strike Eagle which works better at closer ranges but the glass is lacking...its not horrible but after spending an hour or two behind it I really start feeling the eye strain. I think a GEN2 razor would be a good choice but I just can not get past the color and that's after owning 2 of them.
I have a Ziess S3 4-25 ordered, should have it next week and I think/hopping this is going to be a great Rim fire scope as long as the glass is as good as most ppl are saying...also from what I understand the reticle is a little thicker which will be a bonus for me.
Never cared much for Leopold glass. I just ordered the Zeiss LRP S3 6-36x56 for my Vudoo. With all the sales you can't go wrong over $625 off plus no tax free shipping at Eurooptics.
Last edited:
Please do I am curios to hear what you think.
I know this is a stupid question and I'm missing something here but....You got a 6-36 for $625?
No need to be sorry I figured I'd missed something....at $625 I was ready to order 4 of them LOL!!
I think I PM'd you but when you get that 6-36 can you let me know what you think please? Glass, Turrets and especially the reticle.
yes its possible. you will see that you dont want to be ZOOMED full in tho for it. but more than doable, quite a few shooters in the PRS22 Matches i go to have the Mark5
was going to put a Mark5 7-35 on my vudoo but went with another razor to match my spare/loaner gun so if someone new is using it i see what they see....so the Leupold just sits, sealed in the box lol
was going to put a Mark5 7-35 on my vudoo but went with another razor to match my spare/loaner gun so if someone new is using it i see what they see....so the Leupold just sits, sealed in the box lol
I will let you know how the Zeiss reticle compares to the Zcomp MPCT-3x and the S&B H-59 and T3 reticles
I have a 5-25 Mark5 I'll be putting on my Curtis valor quick change 22LR conversion once I get it back from the smith. Looking forward to hearing how yours works for you
I may try and get out Friday and test it with my own KYL rack just out of curiosity.
I tried it. Found out during a match that the empty cases would bounce off the windage knob back into the chamber. That was an entertaining match, and I still pulled off a win.
Went back to a tango 4 just because it's smaller.
Neither has a parallax lower than 50 yards. I just turn the power down. I find I don't even bury my 4-16 until I'm past 100 generally.
Went back to a tango 4 just because it's smaller.
Neither has a parallax lower than 50 yards. I just turn the power down. I find I don't even bury my 4-16 until I'm past 100 generally.
I’ve shot with it a lot with no feeding issues, just not sub 50 yards.
@farofeiro so you have not shot closer than 50yds with the Mark5 yet?
My S3 4-25 finally shows a shipping label but not in the system...I am hoping to get the S3 this week as I should have my Vudoo Monday or Tuesday.
My S3 4-25 finally shows a shipping label but not in the system...I am hoping to get the S3 this week as I should have my Vudoo Monday or Tuesday.
I shot an NRL22 match today. Closest target was 35 yards, 1/4” KYL. Hit it 4/5 times. I’m thinking that’s the closest target the Mk5 could focus on, anything closer will be blurry.
Got 8th out of 52 for the day, pretty happy with that!
Edit: should mention I was on about 14x.
Damn fine shooting congrats!!
Yeah that's what I figured after playing with my MK5 at closer ranges and why I finally just ordered the S3 4-25...if the 4-25 has as good of glass as the MK5 I will most likely order an S3 6-36 for my center fire...keep things the same.
I like the MK5s but what to keep things the same and I am hoping the Ziess will be the answer.
So I am going to eat crow here.
As I said above I had been messing around with my mark5 on a bag on my tripod trying to see if it would work at 25yds and did not look promising.
I finally shot my Vudoo yesterday after work with the Ziess S3 and was VERY happy with the glass but not so much with the reticle. Glass is fantastic but the reticle is way to small for my eyes which is the opposite of what I've read...Or miss read LOL!
Due to my eye sight when I set my diopter I have to turn it all the way in or very close to have a clear reticle so the reticle is or looks smaller.
So this morning I pulled the Ziess and put my mark5 on and went out and shot about 100-120 rounds. With the MK5 parallax set at 75yds I can set the power at 12-14x and the 25yd target is only slightly blurry at 10x almost perfect under 10x and its clear as can be.
So I guess depending on your eye's the MK5 will differently work at closer ranges and for me the reticle is much easier for me to see and is my favorite out of all the scopes I have owned.
As I said above I had been messing around with my mark5 on a bag on my tripod trying to see if it would work at 25yds and did not look promising.
I finally shot my Vudoo yesterday after work with the Ziess S3 and was VERY happy with the glass but not so much with the reticle. Glass is fantastic but the reticle is way to small for my eyes which is the opposite of what I've read...Or miss read LOL!
Due to my eye sight when I set my diopter I have to turn it all the way in or very close to have a clear reticle so the reticle is or looks smaller.
So this morning I pulled the Ziess and put my mark5 on and went out and shot about 100-120 rounds. With the MK5 parallax set at 75yds I can set the power at 12-14x and the 25yd target is only slightly blurry at 10x almost perfect under 10x and its clear as can be.
So I guess depending on your eye's the MK5 will differently work at closer ranges and for me the reticle is much easier for me to see and is my favorite out of all the scopes I have owned.
The S3 reticle is too small? It's larger than most out there and nice and dark as well. I am really surprised to read your experience as it's the only one I have ever read or heard of to say that. Have you used it in a match? It's actually a great match reticle.
Not in a match but I shot 200ish rounds with it yesterday and the reticle is tiny to my eye's...maybe hash marks to close?
I love the glass it's is what everyone has been saying and I also love the green reticle but even with it on it was still hard for me to pick up the center dot.
What power you running it on? I guess with all eyes being different it can happen but that is definitely the first I have heard the reticle called that.
Up to 20 in the field but prefer to be around 14-16...I just looked through it and the center dot looks really small to me and everything is just to close together for me, maybe because I have been using the MK5s for so long or maybe because I have to have the diopter turned all the way in.
Like I said the glass is fantastic but the reticle just don't work for me.
I have to agree on the MK5. I especially like my 5-25s with pr2 reticle. They seem to get a lot of hate (especially on r/longrange where there is a biased/sponsored mod hivemind) but for the price it is fantastic. People seem to critique them in comparison to optics 1.5x-2x the cost, which isn’t fair.
$1800 for non illuminated and $2300 for illuminated is in the same area as a lot of scopes now so there are a ton of other choices for the same price and even less with similar features. I've looked at them and didn't see anything drawing me to them especially with the 50 yard parallax. You can make it work as we did years back by turning down power but now there isn't a need to do that with the other choices in the market. The Leupold name is not the draw it once was.
This is from the PRS Series...looks a few guys like the MK5's
Attachments
I
Is that centerfire? MK5's are very well represented in NRL hunter. Closest target 200 yds. Lightweight.
Yes they show what the shooters use, optics, actions ect.
Precision Rifle Series - Home
The Precision Rifle Series is the preeminent rifle organization in the world, structuring a yearly points race for both the PRS Pro Bolt Gun Series and the PRS Regional Series. The PRS Championship Shooting Series is synonymous with precision rifle shooting.
www.precisionrifleseries.com
Just fine for targets farther away, not so good for .22's where you might be shooting a 1/4 inch target in a KYL at 35 yards or less.
I agree there are better options if you want high power at closer distances but the MK5 at 25yds, parallax set as low as it will go..50yds..and power set at 10x I can see a #2 Philips screw head as if I was standing 12" away and I can still see the dot against a black target...the MK5 glass just really works with my eye's.
I don’t disagree however this month’s kyl at 35 yards I nearly cleaned pretty easily while shooting only the 1/4”. My one miss was on my behalf and not the mk5.
