AR scope advise

[Alan Warner]

Looking to equip an AR with a 1-4 or 1-6 with parallax adj., thermal, and range finding capabilities along with an MOA tree. No larger than 30 mm tube.
Lit reticle and range finding would be a bonus.
What experiences do you have, good and bad? Can mirage be seen thru thermal day and night?
The stick I've assembled holds 2/3 min @600 with a dot, but I don't like it one damn bit. Probably a little better once I learn the bullet I'm using.
Thanks for helping an old LR HM
Alan

 

[Makinchips208]

Only one I know of with adjustable focus is the March 1-10. It uses a 33mm? Front ring and 30mm rear, so their mount is likely mandatory. Guessing it is ballpark $2k.
So, just saying that an adjustable focus on a 1-4 is kinda unnecessary.

 

[22lfb]

There's also the lesser known March F 1-8x24

 

[diverdon]

In practice I've never missed the parallax adjustment on my Vortex gen II 1-6. I assume you mean measuring with the reticle and determining range by math.

 

[CS95]

Maybe I'm slow, but I'm confused (or illiterate). Are you asking for a day optic recommendation or a thermal weapon sight?

 

[Glassaholic]

Looking to equip an AR with a 1-4 or 1-6 with parallax adj., thermal, and range finding capabilities along with an MOA tree. No larger than 30 mm tube.
Lit reticle and range finding would be a bonus.
What experiences do you have, good and bad? Can mirage be seen thru thermal day and night?
The stick I've assembled holds 2/3 min @600 with a dot, but I don't like it one damn bit. Probably a little better once I learn the bullet I'm using.
Thanks for helping an old LR HM
Alan

Wait about six years and the Vortex XM-157 NGSW-FC may be available to civilians. Until then what you’re asking for doesn’t exist.

 

[Alan Warner]

Wait about six years and the Vortex XM-157 NGSW-FC may be available to civilians. Until then what you’re asking for doesn’t exist.

Thanks for that.. So do I need a thermal unit that mounts in front of the scope? If so, what would you all recommend?

 

[CS95]

OK, now I understand what u are looking to do. Here is a list of what you need to accomplish your goal-

Rifle scope-Schmidt and Bender 1-8 dual focal or a Vortex Razor 1-10 will do if u want to save a couple bucks.

Thermal clipon- Trijicon UTC XII or EOtech XLR.

Weapon mounted range finder- Envision MARS or Wilcox MRF

 

[Makinchips208]

Thanks for that.. So do I need a thermal unit that mounts in front of the scope? If so, what would you all recommend?

Sorry, I missed the thermal part.
Here are three proven sources with websites, experience, and knowledge, from guys who do this regularly.

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[Alan Warner]

Thanks everyone for the great info. Looks like I have some homework to do.

 

[Darayavaus]

Just my opinion, I hate huge, bulky LPVOs. I've owned and used a number of them. I'll take a 4x prism any day.

 

[hlee]

Just my opinion, I hate huge, bulky LPVOs. I've owned and used a number of them. I'll take a 4x prism any day.

Yeah, and just add a flip to the side magnifier for the prism and a piggyback red dot and you in the same ball park of capability.

 

[Darayavaus]

Yeah, and just add a flip to the side magnifier for the prism and a piggyback red dot and you in the same ball park of capability.

neither. the prism has BAC capacity which makes it as quick as an EO tech, and with an etched reticle, I don't have to worry about a battery dying at the wrong time. And who needs a magnification booster? 4x is fine in normal combat ranges. This isn't a target scope, it's a combat optic.

So I end up with an ultra-maneuverable, lightweight, durable rifle instead of a honked out, heavy, tacticool boat anchor.

 

[Glassaholic]

Thanks for that.. So do I need a thermal unit that mounts in front of the scope? If so, what would you all recommend?

You got it, clip on thermal. Talk to Preston @SkyScrapin and he’ll help immensely and he’s a Hide dealer. Another great resource is @wigwamitus