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Are we headed towards a shooting war in the US?

Do you believe w the US will have an internal shooting war between liberals and conservatives?

  • Yes,Seattle etal radical factions will graduate from rocks & Molotovs to mass murder / assassination

    Votes: 14 7.8%
  • Likely, DOJ encourages by turning a blind to threats of arson & mass murder

    Votes: 29 16.1%
  • Possible, the US is headed into a hot summer where libs setup arsons, ambushes & firefights

    Votes: 24 13.3%
  • Probably not, most of the vitriol and politics are posturing

    Votes: 41 22.8%
  • Won’t happen, the news isn’t reality and most Americans are indifferent

    Votes: 72 40.0%

  • Total voters
    180
Where I live? I've always said where I live, we could have a real life Hollywood Red Dawn scenario, invading Russians tanks on the main drag. And if me and my rag tag band of high school buddies fought back to save America, the only thing that would happen is the county/state would mount a full scale reaction force to arrest us and throw us in jail for the rest of our lives.
 
Is this where you think the real divide is? The real divide is between authoritarians on the left and the right standing across from those of us who won’t toe the line. To simplify it, government and those that support it and those that want no part of it.
 
What do you think, for the country as a whole?
What about where you live?
Not today Glowni&&3r

Not today


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The Left is an ass that needs spanking.
 
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Be nice if both Conservatives and Liberals would join forces and go to war with the media which has literally been spreading lies and keeping us fighting and killing eachother. All the riots that have happened has all been the fault of the media. Not Antifa. Not BLM. The media! If no war is gonna happen then at the very least media outlets need to be held accountable for the incitement of violence they are guilty of.
 
I've heard that you can take a PEZ dispenser and stretch the feed spring so it shoots the PEZ like 10 feet.
That is what the next shooting war will be won by.
I mean, bad-fucking-ass self defense weapon right there.
Come get some, glowboy.
 
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Be nice if both Conservatives and Liberals would join forces and go to war with the media which has literally been spreading lies and keeping us fighting and killing eachother. All the riots that have happened has all been the fault of the media. Not Antifa. Not BLM. The media! If no war is gonna happen then at the very least media outlets need to be held accountable for the incitement of violence they are guilty of.
Biden, Harris, Pelosi, the Dem. Party and their globalist shot callers are the head of Antifa. The skateboard swinging useful idiots on the street are their cannon fodder.

You can forget ever allying with them. You think a purple haired, 300 lb. tattoo'd Lesbian with a snout ring is going to side with your pro-life, fascist, white supremacist, Trump supporting ass?
 
And lots of people on both sides who are more than willing to buy into the bullshit.
Exactly.

But what the politicians and outside forces are doing is turning identity politics up to 11. So that everybody has to have a hyphen. Everybody has to be from a tribe. Or special. Or identifying in some group.

The best way to destroy a nation is to Balkanize it. And instead of having us all be Americans in our melting pot make damn sure that everybody keeps some socia, cultural, national, or personal identity… and place is it above their being a citizen of the greatest nation ever.

Identity politics has gone on as long as politics has. And it’s a guaranteed way to divide and conquer.

That people still fall for it 4000 years later is kind of pathetic. But then again we are wired to be tribal. It’s just that it should be relatively easy to rewire ourselves to be part of the great tribe called Americans. And fuck everything and everyone else.

Not a bad message for the fourth.

Cheers
 
With a proper cleansing you could bring back America to its glory, but you have to have an open mind about the wet work that would be required for the restoration.
 
It's interesting, and not just a little "skewed", that your three "Yes, Likely, Possible" choices are demonstrably anti-left, and that none of them indicate any predisposition by the right to start the violence. Especially true since the events of Jan-6th are the first time in the history of our country that we were unable to execute a peaceful transfer of power. Not looking for a battle, just (probably inappropriately) exercising my centrist-moderate political leanings by pointing out that a survey that only considers the left side of the political spectrum as the catalyst and only possible causes that internal shooting starts, seems pretty one-sided.

My favorite quote of a prior thread on this topic ...

"A civil war in America won't last long. The right owns all the guns, and the left can't figure out which bathroom to use."
 
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"A civil war in America won't last long. The right owns all the guns, and the left can't figure out which bathroom to use."

What better time would there be then now when the the left has positioned itself with the drag queens......
 
If we could secure legitimate voting
If we could get the media to tell the truth
If we had honest politicians
If we could close our boarders to illegals
There would be no call to arms except from
the crazies on the left.
 
I think its the duty of every American not to all ow this country to fall into an open civil war. We are not perfect but are stronger together.

As pointed out identify politics is a tool of division. The masses UNITED( the united states) is what did and is the only thing that can continue to make this country great. Yes we have some infighting and always will, but full out civil shooting war.. fuck that noise!
 
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hope not, and i think most people are oblivious to the kinds of stories we post in the pit.
there would have to be a drastic change in network news to uncover the dark side to most americans.
i know this is perhaps not a popular opinion or realistic, but i am still hoping it can be fixed without anything like that.
 
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If it does those in blue areas are in a rather precarious situation. When you look at any voting map you have highly concentrated dots of blue usually surrounded by hundreds of miles of red. The areas in red provide food, manufacturing, and water and the blue areas provide customer service, tech support, and banking. Usually all these blue dots have 2 to 4 major arteries in and out. Just saying if it came down to it shut down the I35’s(or which ever interstate feeds the city) and they are deep in the hurt locker, I can live without tech support and Amazon for a long time. Everything they need? Think Stalingrad.
 
If it does those in blue areas are in a rather precarious situation. When you look at any voting map you have highly concentrated dots of blue usually surrounded by hundreds of miles of red. The areas in red provide food, manufacturing, and water and the blue areas provide customer service, tech support, and banking. Usually all these blue dots have 2 to 4 major arteries in and out. Just saying if it came down to it shut down the I35’s(or which ever interstate feeds the city) and they are deep in the hurt locker, I can live without tech support and Amazon for a long time. Everything they need? Think Stalingrad.
yes, the fact that both sides are largely mixed geographically makes it much less likely, even if that is just hopeful wishing.
even in places considered "liberal" like california, there are tens of millions of patriotic americans that still hold the values of our founding fathers.
 
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Lets just say for a second that there was a national civil war that kicked off. How would a person visually identify their enemy? Are we (as a nation) going to start wearing uniforms, or patches, or some other visual indication of which "side" we're on? The civil war of the 1860's was states raising militas, and engaged in battle on battlefields, and they were organized, most wore uniforms, and it was generally pretty clear who you were suppose to kill. Would that occur in the states now? I don't think it would. I don't know what it would look like, and I don't know what would start it off. I just don't think it's really something that's likely to occur on a national scale. At best, it'll be small regional conflicts, quickly shut down by federal police/military. The press propaganda machine will spin it, and you'll believe it because they will repeat the 'facts' until you believe them. I think it's only a fantasy of some folks, hoping for a period of national disobedience so they can take out some trash they know about free from the consequences of this world. I've been there, I get it, but I don't believe for a second we'll ever get there.

Branden
 
yes, the fact that both sides are largely mixed geographically makes it much less likely, even if that is just hopeful wishing.
even in places considered "liberal" like california, there are tens of millions of patriotic americans that still hold the values of our founding fathers.
While I agree for the most part unless sanity returns we a heading towards what occurred in Yugoslavia in the 90’s. In the last 30 years of my life we have gone from slight grumblings at the dinner table or diner, to brawls at school board meetings. The left is now advocating for the overthrow of the Supreme Court and the shedding and rewriting of the constitution to fit their world view. This express to a confrontation is accelerating at a alarming rate. If you look at every revolution the last act that triggers the start is usually the least important of all the issues. The American revolution didn’t start because of a tax on tea, in and of itself that is a issue that would normally be just complaining at the bar, but it was the straw that broke the camel’s back, I do seriously wonder what’s the straw that will break this one.

There was a senator just prior to the civil war who said the discussion was silly, he pulled out a hanky and said all the blood from this conflict will be able to be cleaned up with this. When you have media commentators advocating for reeducation camps, denial of medical and financial services, and entering peoples homes to seize their personal property you are stoking the fire of rebellion and that’s where we already are, and as history teaches once at this point it doesn’t take a massive issue to start a conflict, but usually a very small one.
 
While I agree for the most part unless sanity returns we a heading towards what occurred in Yugoslavia in the 90’s. In the last 30 years of my life we have gone from slight grumblings at the dinner table or diner, to brawls at school board meetings. The left is now advocating for the overthrow of the Supreme Court and the shedding and rewriting of the constitution to fit their world view. This express to a confrontation is accelerating at a alarming rate. If you look at every revolution the last act that triggers the start is usually the least important of all the issues. The American revolution didn’t start because of a tax on tea, in and of itself that is a issue that would normally be just complaining at the bar, but it was the straw that broke the camel’s back, I do seriously wonder what’s the straw that will break this one.

There was a senator just prior to the civil war who said the discussion was silly, he pulled out a hanky and said all the blood from this conflict will be able to be cleaned up with this. When you have media commentators advocating for reeducation camps, denial of medical and financial services, and entering peoples homes to seize their personal property you are stoking the fire of rebellion and that’s where we already are, and as history teaches once at this point it doesn’t take a massive issue to start a conflict, but usually a very small one.
i think the far left junk is amplified exponentially by social media and msm, and as i walk around southern california, i see no evidence of widespread discontent with anything but prices. life goes on, oblivious to the outrage expressed by those obsessed with killing babies.
 
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Well the cat was really let out the bag this past week when talking about fuel prices and how it was great for the Liberal World Order. Well no body asked our permission to sell our country away to this LWO! November will tell all of us, where we are headed with no turning back. I am quite confident they will cheat and the RINOS will help them.
 
Lets just say for a second that there was a national civil war that kicked off. How would a person visually identify their enemy? Are we (as a nation) going to start wearing uniforms, or patches, or some other visual indication of which "side" we're on? The civil war of the 1860's was states raising militas, and engaged in battle on battlefields, and they were organized, most wore uniforms, and it was generally pretty clear who you were suppose to kill. Would that occur in the states now? I don't think it would. I don't know what it would look like, and I don't know what would start it off. I just don't think it's really something that's likely to occur on a national scale. At best, it'll be small regional conflicts, quickly shut down by federal police/military. The press propaganda machine will spin it, and you'll believe it because they will repeat the 'facts' until you believe them. I think it's only a fantasy of some folks, hoping for a period of national disobedience so they can take out some trash they know about free from the consequences of this world. I've been there, I get it, but I don't believe for a second we'll ever get there.

Branden
Antifa wears all black and masks, so we have that uniform to target. Blue helmets will also be a target. We just need more defunding of police so they can't keep facilitating what their communist overlords want done.
 
Never happen. Everyone is too comfortable. "They" know we are only a generation or two away from completely not caring. Those who do are getting old and dying off, not enough young people who care about the Constitution and freedom to do anything in the future. If anyone was gonna do anything it would happen now, simply put no one will organize and do anything, it's over. One more fraudulent election and they will have total control. They already have all the government agencies in their back pockets. All the important positions are filled with their people. They are starting to control food and fuel and water already. Soon people will be begging to be told what to do just to get these basic necessities to survive. The people will rat out friends and neighbors for food and water and fuel. They are cleaning out the military of the good soldiers and replacing them with the woke faggotry that they control. New money and banking system within 10 years, your savings and 401k's wont be worth .05 cents on the dollar. Half the time you go to the grocery store you cant find shit your looking for, car parts are becoming harder to source, ammo and reloading components harder to source. I give it 10 years and the new socialist new world order will be in place and no one will do shit about it no matter how much shit is talked here or elsewhere. Sorry just pretty much see it this way. "They" control the media, elections, fuel, food, water ect.........
 
Is this where you think the real divide is? The real divide is between authoritarians on the left and the right standing across from those of us who won’t toe the line. To simplify it, government and those that support it and those that want no part of it.
Right and left will ally against those that won’t toe the line.
 
Exactly.

But what the politicians and outside forces are doing is turning identity politics up to 11. So that everybody has to have a hyphen. Everybody has to be from a tribe. Or special. Or identifying in some group.

The best way to destroy a nation is to Balkanize it. And instead of having us all be Americans in our melting pot make damn sure that everybody keeps some socia, cultural, national, or personal identity… and place is it above their being a citizen of the greatest nation ever.

Identity politics has gone on as long as politics has. And it’s a guaranteed way to divide and conquer.

That people still fall for it 4000 years later is kind of pathetic. But then again we are wired to be tribal. It’s just that it should be relatively easy to rewire ourselves to be part of the great tribe called Americans. And fuck everything and everyone else.

Not a bad message for the fourth.

Cheers
I learned something yesterday, we did not have an official national anthem until 1931 (or 1916 if exec order is treated as law). The pledge of allegiance was written in 1892. We didn’t have an official pledge or anthem to unite us for over half of our life as a country.

Looking at where we’ve come from, our success has happened when states had more power so people could choose to live in a state where the finer points of politics were in line with their beliefs.

So what united us? Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness that was rooted in a society with the underpinning of morality (as given by God). The particulars will always be different but what makes us great is the unity around the liberty given to each individual
 
If you notice any Trump rally, the majority of his supporters are boomers, the last patriotic generation raised by the Greatest Generation. The Left knows it too and is playing the long con, waiting for that generation to pass on or become so invalid they'll have to have wheel chair ramps to load us into the cattle cars. And after Father Time does what Bill Gates and Fauchi are trying to do, there won't be enough fighting age patriots left to put up any real resistance.

That leaves the millennials and Gen. Z college age generation fresh out of the indoctrination factories called the public school system. They should fall in line and become good communists, until they get tired of chasing garbage trucks for something to eat.
 
Well the cat was really let out the bag this past week when talking about fuel prices and how it was great for the Liberal World Order. Well no body asked our permission to sell our country away to this LWO! November will tell all of us, where we are headed with no turning back. I am quite confident they will cheat and the RINOS will help them.
November won't tell us shit. Youth will assume a greater roll and elders will pass on. It happened in the past. It’s happening today. It will happen this November. And the following November's. Teach your children well and respect your neighbor.
 
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If you notice any Trump rally, the majority of his supporters are boomers, the last patriotic generation raised by the Greatest Generation. The Left knows it too and is playing the long con, waiting for that generation to pass on or become so invalid they'll have to have wheel chair ramps to load us into the cattle cars. And after Father Time does what Bill Gates and Fauchi are trying to do, there won't be enough fighting age patriots left to put up any real resistance.

That leaves the millennials and Gen. Z college age generation fresh out of the indoctrination factories called the public school system. They should fall in line and become good communists, until they get tired of chasing garbage trucks for something to eat.
Well, I have two sons who are both in their early 30's and both are staunch 2A supporter's and are very aware of what's going on as are many of their friends (who I know). The deal is, they all work hard, have good jobs and love America. So don't write off all the up and coming.
As for me, yeah, I'm a boomer but keep in shape, follow AJ's rule and as far as cattle cars go.......well let's just say I have a plan.