I have a 1890's Argentine Mauser that has been sporterized. My dillema is that I have no current use for this rifle. According to a local gunsmith, the action is missing an intergral piece...something to do with the safety mechanism. My question is what would be a good use for this rifle? Can the action be used in something of use to me? What are your thoughts on what I should do with this unused rifle?
Argentine Mauser
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Re: Argentine Mauser
It is an Argentine Modelo 1891 chambered in 7.65 X 53 Mauser. Again it has been sporterized so I'm guessing that will do nothing positive for the value. The shop I took it to with intent on selling told me it wasn't worth much...I think he offered me less than $100. With that being said, any idea of what you think it might be worth in fair to good condition or what other function I could get out of the rifle?
It is an Argentine Modelo 1891 chambered in 7.65 X 53 Mauser. Again it has been sporterized so I'm guessing that will do nothing positive for the value. The shop I took it to with intent on selling told me it wasn't worth much...I think he offered me less than $100. With that being said, any idea of what you think it might be worth in fair to good condition or what other function I could get out of the rifle?
Re: Argentine Mauser
wait until your local ACORN franchise offers up a gun buy back program and dump it for a gift card
wait until your local ACORN franchise offers up a gun buy back program and dump it for a gift card
Re: Argentine Mauser
the 1891 is an excellent action for a custom build. Any quality gunsmith could make the action functional again (assuming the piece is "missing" not been damaged beyond repair).
google up LOSOK arms, he's a mauser expert and can fix you up with about any build style you like for mausers. You can go tactical (mcm will inlet any a-series for mauser 98), hunting, classic, safari style, scout rifle, military original look, all kinds of things.
My buddy has an octagon barrel 270 done on an argentine action. It's got beautiful birdseye in the wood stock... looks like something a rich dentist might own for a safari, lol. This thing will shoot bugholes, it's more accurate than my tactical rifle. No idea who built it, rescued it from a pawn shop for a couple hundred bucks.
so, FWIW, i'd have it repaired & rebarreled to something modern and shoot it! The argentine is a desireable action to start from, and the mauser design has all the good stuff going for it: controlled round feeding, claw extractor, etc.
the 7.65 uses the same bolt face as all the cartridges in the .308 or .30-06 families, sou you can chamber in those without having your bolt modified. If you have the face opened slightly you can do 6.5x55 sweede.
the 1891 is an excellent action for a custom build. Any quality gunsmith could make the action functional again (assuming the piece is "missing" not been damaged beyond repair).
google up LOSOK arms, he's a mauser expert and can fix you up with about any build style you like for mausers. You can go tactical (mcm will inlet any a-series for mauser 98), hunting, classic, safari style, scout rifle, military original look, all kinds of things.
My buddy has an octagon barrel 270 done on an argentine action. It's got beautiful birdseye in the wood stock... looks like something a rich dentist might own for a safari, lol. This thing will shoot bugholes, it's more accurate than my tactical rifle. No idea who built it, rescued it from a pawn shop for a couple hundred bucks.
so, FWIW, i'd have it repaired & rebarreled to something modern and shoot it! The argentine is a desireable action to start from, and the mauser design has all the good stuff going for it: controlled round feeding, claw extractor, etc.
the 7.65 uses the same bolt face as all the cartridges in the .308 or .30-06 families, sou you can chamber in those without having your bolt modified. If you have the face opened slightly you can do 6.5x55 sweede.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bcw1284</div><div class="ubbcode-body">google up LOSOK arms, he's a mauser expert and can fix you up with about any build style you like for mausers.</div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Losokcustomarms.com</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As of January 22, 2010 we will no longer be accepting new custom rifle orders. We will be working to clear our backlog of all orders on hand at this time. We are accepting orders for the new Valkyr Rifle, this rifle is estimated to begin production in an April-June 2010 timeframe. Please contact us for further information. </div></div>
the good news is, the mauser is probably the most customized action in the country, going back through history. as such, there is an incredible wealth of parts and knowledge regarding restoration/sporterization of the mauser rifle.
start calling gunsmiths in your area, and when you find a few willing to work on it, start getting references from them for previous customers. see if you can get your mitts on previous work they've done, and make an educated decision.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bcw1284</div><div class="ubbcode-body">google up LOSOK arms, he's a mauser expert and can fix you up with about any build style you like for mausers.</div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Losokcustomarms.com</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As of January 22, 2010 we will no longer be accepting new custom rifle orders. We will be working to clear our backlog of all orders on hand at this time. We are accepting orders for the new Valkyr Rifle, this rifle is estimated to begin production in an April-June 2010 timeframe. Please contact us for further information. </div></div>
the good news is, the mauser is probably the most customized action in the country, going back through history. as such, there is an incredible wealth of parts and knowledge regarding restoration/sporterization of the mauser rifle.
start calling gunsmiths in your area, and when you find a few willing to work on it, start getting references from them for previous customers. see if you can get your mitts on previous work they've done, and make an educated decision.
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Hold on boys, this is an 1891 Mauser, not an M98, or even an M1909 Argie. These do not have the rear lug of the M98 and they cock on close like an M95. You will reach diminishing returns on an M1891 pretty darn quickly if you try to customize it.
Do more research.
Hold on boys, this is an 1891 Mauser, not an M98, or even an M1909 Argie. These do not have the rear lug of the M98 and they cock on close like an M95. You will reach diminishing returns on an M1891 pretty darn quickly if you try to customize it.
Do more research.
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yes, but you can still use the stocks, etc. with correct bedding.
Cock on close is the same as the enfields, and i'm sure there is a conversion kit out there just like there is for the enfields.
I should clarify, the .270 I mentioned is built on a m1909, but I see no reason why he can't build on this one. There are many many sporter enfields out there, and they were quite a popular africa rifle several decades ago. This wouldn't be much different to build.
yes, but you can still use the stocks, etc. with correct bedding.
Cock on close is the same as the enfields, and i'm sure there is a conversion kit out there just like there is for the enfields.
I should clarify, the .270 I mentioned is built on a m1909, but I see no reason why he can't build on this one. There are many many sporter enfields out there, and they were quite a popular africa rifle several decades ago. This wouldn't be much different to build.
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The 91 action is not as strong as the 98 action.
If you are wanting a really good deer cartridge, look to the .300 savage. Accurate, plenty of pop for the deer and was more or less the parent cartridge for the .308. It is loaded to lower pressures/velocities, but still more than enough medicine for a deer.
Personally, I think all mausers on the face of the earth should be chambered in 7x57.
Another excellent option, sticking with the mauser theme is the 6.5x55.
Check Numrich arms for parts.
The 91 action is not as strong as the 98 action.
If you are wanting a really good deer cartridge, look to the .300 savage. Accurate, plenty of pop for the deer and was more or less the parent cartridge for the .308. It is loaded to lower pressures/velocities, but still more than enough medicine for a deer.
Personally, I think all mausers on the face of the earth should be chambered in 7x57.
Another excellent option, sticking with the mauser theme is the 6.5x55.
Check Numrich arms for parts.
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The 7.65 Argentine is very similar to the .308...the darling of this board. I shoot lots of 7.65 in an Argy 1909 Cavalry Carbine and have had some 1891 Models. You don't need a rebarrel to make an 1891 Argy kill anything on the planet. Give the OP a break, he just wants a useable rifle. Any competent gunsmith can fix what he has. There are several online sources that would show every part on the rifle so one could identify the vaguely named "missing integral piece". AG
The 7.65 Argentine is very similar to the .308...the darling of this board. I shoot lots of 7.65 in an Argy 1909 Cavalry Carbine and have had some 1891 Models. You don't need a rebarrel to make an 1891 Argy kill anything on the planet. Give the OP a break, he just wants a useable rifle. Any competent gunsmith can fix what he has. There are several online sources that would show every part on the rifle so one could identify the vaguely named "missing integral piece". AG
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I cant wait for my 1909 Argentine Mauser to get finished. Its going to be fap material.
I cant wait for my 1909 Argentine Mauser to get finished. Its going to be fap material.
