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    Nice reticle and price.
    The PA PL-x Griffin is hard to beat and is 1-8 w/ 34mm tube.
     

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    They lost me at "manufactured by our partners in Japan". Not that I don't like Japanese optics, I happen to be very fond of Japanese optics, but for the LPVO world there are about a hundred excellent LPVO's already from Japan so I'm not sure what TT/ATI was thinking here, maybe simply just to join in the game. 1-6 is very 2018, would have at least liked to have seen a 1-8 to keep up with the pack. I will say this, from web pictures their dark earth anodization looks a LOT better than the Razor Gen II/III, speaking of the Gen III, I've had mine on order since December, really hope it shows up very soon.
     
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    They lost me at "manufactured by our partners in Japan". Not that I don't like Japanese optics, I happen to be very fond of Japanese optics, but for the LPVO world there are about a hundred excellent LPVO's already from Japan so I'm not sure what TT/ATI was thinking here, maybe simply just to join in the game. 1-6 is very 2018, would have at least liked to have seen a 1-8 to keep up with the pack. I will say this, from web pictures their dark earth anodization looks a LOT better than the Razor Gen II/III, speaking of the Gen III, I've had mine on order since December, really hope it shows up very soon.
    I thought the same things
     
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    Lost me with BDC reticle. 6 power doesn't bother me at all but why in the world manufacturers continue to make reticles based on load and barrel length for a weapons platform that varies as widely as the AR is puzzling to me.
     
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    Paging @koshkin for further information? As a Canadian I want to support the home team (even if the scope isn't manufactured here) but per the comments above, there would have to be something quite compelling about this scope to justify it in 2021. Hopefully they are working on higher mag range LPVOs as well, or perhaps a 2-10/12 something like that.
     

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    I ordered one. Looks like it arrives Friday. Have a Vortex Gen III 1-10 so will see how this one stacks up.
     
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    I ordered one. Looks like it arrives Friday. Have a Vortex Gen III 1-10 so will see how this one stacks up.
    Let us know, other than the BDC instead of MIL's and the zoom going to the wrong way (I find it more natural pulling to zoom in while on the gun) it seems to check a lot of boxes.
     

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    Well got lucky and it arrived this am. Here are my initial impressions. (take this lightly as I am not an expert). My reference points are a TT525P, K525i, NX8, Gen III

    Reticle: The way the CX900 is set up it pops. Very easy to acquire even without the light on. At power level 9 (don't know why it doesn't go to 11) it is very bright. Compared to my Gen III this one seems to work better on 1x for speed and is brighter.

    Turrets: The magnification dial is extremely smooth, can't see using a throw lever with it. Much better than my Gen III. The windage and elevation are different as they are sunk into the unit and require me to use the tips of my fingers. Would be much slower in any field use. Can't see myself dialing if speed was an issue. The feel of the clicks is similar to as TT with very distinct clicks between settings. Think of a down graded TT.

    Glass: Very surprised how clear this unit is. It is as good or better than my Gen III. Haven't mounted it yet but first look this is a steal for $1200. I have a NF NX8 and this unit is clearly superior to that unit. Also the eye relief is very good. Easy to get behind and field of view is impressive.

    Will try to get this on my AR and run it through the paces in the next few days. Need to get the BDC aligned to my Blackhills 77g TMK's to make it useful.



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    Appreciate the writeup USC, sounds like a very compelling 1-6 offering. My Gen III 1-10 should be coming any day now and I'm curious to see how well I like that. How close do you think their dark earth color is to FDE equipment?
     

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    Appreciate the writeup USC, sounds like a very compelling 1-6 offering. My Gen III 1-10 should be coming any day now and I'm curious to see how well I like that. How close do you think their dark earth color is to FDE equipment?
    I am not much into colors, but seems like a burnt bronze to me. Def lighter than the Gen III coloring...
     

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    I am not much into colors, but seems like a burnt bronze to me. Def lighter than the Gen III coloring...
    Thanks. I've always thought of Vortex's as being closer to Patriot Brown. Just found out my Gen III is shipping this week, so I will know for certain by next week hopefully.
     

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    Thanks. I've always thought of Vortex's as being closer to Patriot Brown. Just found out my Gen III is shipping this week, so I will know for certain by next week hopefully.
    I like the Gen III. Run it as a DMR setup on my MR762.
     

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    Quick question: on 1x, does eyepiece "disappear" similar to the G2 and G3 razors? Or does it look like looking through a toilet paper roll like the NX8 1-8?

    Thanks.
     

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    Paging @koshkin for further information? As a Canadian I want to support the home team (even if the scope isn't manufactured here) but per the comments above, there would have to be something quite compelling about this scope to justify it in 2021. Hopefully they are working on higher mag range LPVOs as well, or perhaps a 2-10/12 something like that.

    I have one heading my way.

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    Well got lucky and it arrived this am. Here are my initial impressions. (take this lightly as I am not an expert). My reference points are a TT525P, K525i, NX8, Gen III

    Reticle: The way the CX900 is set up it pops. Very easy to acquire even without the light on. At power level 9 (don't know why it doesn't go to 11) it is very bright. Compared to my Gen III this one seems to work better on 1x for speed and is brighter.

    Turrets: The magnification dial is extremely smooth, can't see using a throw lever with it. Much better than my Gen III. The windage and elevation are different as they are sunk into the unit and require me to use the tips of my fingers. Would be much slower in any field use. Can't see myself dialing if speed was an issue. The feel of the clicks is similar to as TT with very distinct clicks between settings. Think of a down graded TT.

    Glass: Very surprised how clear this unit is. It is as good or better than my Gen III. Haven't mounted it yet but first look this is a steal for $1200. I have a NF NX8 and this unit is clearly superior to that unit. Also the eye relief is very good. Easy to get behind and field of view is impressive.

    Will try to get this on my AR and run it through the paces in the next few days. Need to get the BDC aligned to my Blackhills 77g TMK's to make it useful.



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    I just got one. The FOV is very good and it is very easy to get behind. The reticle is clever. Very nicely visible on 1x and not too distracting on 6x.

    ILya
    Was that the 6x view you posted on IG?
     

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    Koshkin is the 1x a true 1x.This scope is starting to get my interest please keep updating us on your findings.
     

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    any news on this? fellas with first hand experience how are you liking it? Ive been hoping TT would offer a LPVO for years... have my prayers been answered ?
     

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    I like it so far. I just had a COVID vaccine shot, so I feel like shit. I am going to sleep. I'll edit and upload the video tomorrow.

    It is not a TT, but it is a very solid and fairly lightweight Japanese LPVO with a clever reticle.

    ILya
     
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    They really ticked a ton of boxes on paper with it, even if I do wish it was Mils instead of BDC. I wonder what load/velocity the BDC is for, I see no mention of it anywhere.
     

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    It is a hybrid BDC. I'll have discussion of that in the video.

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    Im familiar with how those have worked in the past. It's still compromise. If we are talking minute of man hits, its fine, sometimes. But its still limited because your zero and the associating dope can vary greatly throughout the day. If we are putting in 800 yards shots, as this scope suggests and you are shooting at a 8am, your difference by the hot part of the day could be 2 mils with a 5.56 at that distance...more than 4 feet. No one rezeros their rifles for the new conditions with an LPVO, you just make the appropriate adjustment. Sure you could calculate and figure it out, even with a BDC, but it just adds another layer of complexity to the process. I still like what I see so far, every LPVO has a compromise, this one might not be too bad.
     

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    @koshkin is working on a video. Was worried he had an adverse vaccine reaction but I see he's been posting since last week.
    My comment was specifically for uscbadger as he has the Gen III 1-10 and I just got mine last week, but I'm happy to hear from ILya as well ;) And yes, I'm glad to hear ILya is getting over the vaccine, I personally will hold out to the very last on that voodoo sauce.
     

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    My comment was specifically for uscbadger as he has the Gen III 1-10 and I just got mine last week, but I'm happy to hear from ILya as well ;) And yes, I'm glad to hear ILya is getting over the vaccine, I personally will hold out to the very last on that voodoo sauce.
    Was only able to zero it at an indoor 100 yard range. No field use yet...
     

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    Both are really good. The Gen III is almost like my Aimpoint M5s.

    The SAI at 1x cross is similar but doesnt go quite down to just a dot like the Gen III. I think where the SAI excels is at magnification >3 as the illuminated cross helps for hold overs.

    The SAI reticle is starting to grow on me. It just pops and brings the eyes to the center. The set up is fast at all magnifications levels...
     
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