Rifle Scopes Arriving this week, IOR 3.5-18x50 SFP moa/moa

#2
Re: Arriving this week, IOR 3.5-18x50 SFP moa/moa

So are we talking about the $1695 price? One thing that IOR has had going for it is offering attractive features and usually LOWER price point than lets say Night Force. This scope is basically going against the NF version which with Zero stop and MOA/MOA reticle is right at $1700. So can you tell me why would one choose the IOR over the NF at the same price point? Thanks for your input.
 
#3
Re: Arriving this week, IOR 3.5-18x50 SFP moa/moa

WOW the 3-18x50 FFP shows a price of $1895 which I have to agree with alpha there is just no way for me to justify that when I can pick up another NF 5.5-22x50r56 for $1632.
 
#5
Re: Arriving this week, IOR 3.5-18x50 SFP moa/moa

I didn't buy a MOA/MOA SFP version of this optic but I did buy the mil/mil FFP and here's the reasons I like this IOR over the NF:

Brighter and clearer glass
Larger knobs that are easier to turn/read
Much more elevation per revolution (2x)
Better reticle
Better FOV
35mm tube v 30mm tube
Digital illumination
Better eye relief
More forgiving eye box at all magnifications
Secondary zero feature is nice if you run a suppressor and want to account for POI shift when taking your can off
Shorter overall
Two revolutions so no worries about getting 'lost' (I've seen this at competitions from experienced shooters) in the revolutions
Warranty is no questions asked replacement (and less than an hour drive from my house)

Those are my reasons. Some are subjective and opinionated but it's not as easy as simply buying a NF because of the name. Not that I'm knocking on NF because they are great scopes but I would suggest doing more research than just price and name before arriving at a decision.
 
#6
Re: Arriving this week, IOR 3.5-18x50 SFP moa/moa

I can see the value in their FFP model but I'm just not seeing it in the SFP. I just ordered one of their 6-24x50SFP for $1429(that seems like a deal) if this scope is in that range then GTG anything more than that and I'm going NF because it's what I trust.
 
#7
Re: Arriving this week, IOR 3.5-18x50 SFP moa/moa

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cuffm4615</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I can see the value in their FFP model but I'm just not seeing it in the SFP. I just ordered one of their 6-24x50SFP for $1429(that seems like a deal) if this scope is in that range then GTG anything more than that and I'm going NF because it's what I trust. </div></div>



I can see if it was FFP for that price, but paying the same price for their SFP at the exact same price point of NF does not make sense to me.
 
#8
Re: Arriving this week, IOR 3.5-18x50 SFP moa/moa

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: alpha6164</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cuffm4615</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I can see the value in their FFP model but I'm just not seeing it in the SFP. </div></div>



I can see if it was FFP for that price, but paying the same price for their SFP at the exact same price point of NF does not make sense to me. </div></div>

I love how scope companies have the world bamboozled in thinking that moving a reticle from the SFP to the FFP warrants such a price increase.
 
#9
Re: Arriving this week, IOR 3.5-18x50 SFP moa/moa

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JRose</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: alpha6164</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cuffm4615</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I can see the value in their FFP model but I'm just not seeing it in the SFP. </div></div>



I can see if it was FFP for that price, but paying the same price for their SFP at the exact same price point of NF does not make sense to me. </div></div>

I love how scope companies have the world bamboozled in thinking that moving a reticle from the SFP to the FFP warrants such a price increase. </div></div>

lol +1
 
#10
Re: Arriving this week, IOR 3.5-18x50 SFP moa/moa

IOR has a couple years of producing good scopes before I'd take them over NF. Yeah, IOR, "appears" to have improved but I still remember the days of the first, second, and third gen 3-18's.
 
#11
Re: Arriving this week, IOR 3.5-18x50 SFP moa/moa

Jer- I know you're more tuned in than this post would indicate. Let me clarify some of the statements you made.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Brighter and clearer glass
Larger knobs that are easier to turn/read
Much more elevation per revolution (2x) <span style="color: #FF0000"> IOR website shows the 3-18x50 as having 10 mils/revolution. Uh, same as NF dude! lol</span>
Better reticle
Better FOV
35mm tube v 30mm tube
Digital illumination
Better eye relief <span style="color: #FF0000">IOR website shows as 3.5". NF website shows their scopes as having 3.9"</span>
More forgiving eye box at all magnifications
Secondary zero feature is nice if you run a suppressor and want to account for POI shift when taking your can off
Shorter overall
Two revolutions so no worries about getting 'lost' (I've seen this at competitions from experienced shooters) in the revolutions <span style="color: #FF0000">With the 10mil knobs on the NF, this is only true because the IOR has less travel. Less travel = less turns. Is that really an advantage?</span>
Warranty is no questions asked replacement (and less than an hour drive from my house)
</div></div>

The rest of your points are primarily personal opinion, which is perfectly fine, but let's at least get the facts right
crazy.gif
 
#12
Re: Arriving this week, IOR 3.5-18x50 SFP moa/moa

Just a single point, I actually prefer somewhat shorter eye relief these days. Unless of course, the rifle in question has a Really Heavy Recoil. Too much eye relief is only interesting for people who can not get their stocks properly fit for LOP I would think. I may well be wrong. It is not like this is going on a DG rifle going to Africa right? 458 LOTT anyone?
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Yeah, wrong forums for that.

Good shooting
 
#13
Re: Arriving this week, IOR 3.5-18x50 SFP moa/moa

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 71firebird400</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jer- I know you're more tuned in than this post would indicate. Let me clarify some of the statements you made.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Brighter and clearer glass
Larger knobs that are easier to turn/read
Much more elevation per revolution (2x) <span style="color: #FF0000"> IOR website shows the 3-18x50 as having 10 mils/revolution. Uh, same as NF dude! lol</span>
Better reticle
Better FOV
35mm tube v 30mm tube
Digital illumination
Better eye relief <span style="color: #FF0000">IOR website shows as 3.5". NF website shows their scopes as having 3.9"</span>
More forgiving eye box at all magnifications
Secondary zero feature is nice if you run a suppressor and want to account for POI shift when taking your can off
Shorter overall
Two revolutions so no worries about getting 'lost' (I've seen this at competitions from experienced shooters) in the revolutions <span style="color: #FF0000">With the 10mil knobs on the NF, this is only true because the IOR has less travel. Less travel = less turns. Is that really an advantage?</span>
Warranty is no questions asked replacement (and less than an hour drive from my house)
</div></div>

The rest of your points are primarily personal opinion, which is perfectly fine, but let's at least get the facts right
crazy.gif
</div></div>

Your issues with my post are all corrected via the newer high speed turrets which is an OPTION from NF that adds roughly $250 to the optic. I'm comparing apples to apples price-wise and at the prices being discussed you won't get the high speed turrets which is what I was comparing. It's not fair to say that item A and item B are about the same price and then compare the features of an upgraded item B which adds another ~$250 to the price.
 
#14
Re: Arriving this week, IOR 3.5-18x50 SFP moa/moa

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Your issues with my post are all corrected via the newer high speed turrets which is an OPTION from NF that adds roughly $250 to the optic. I'm comparing apples to apples price-wise and at the prices being discussed you won't get the high speed turrets which is what I was comparing. It's not fair to say that item A and item B are about the same price and then compare the features of an upgraded item B which adds another ~$250 to the price. </div></div>

Jer- Liberty has the new IOR @ $1895. A 5.5-22x56 NF with .1 Mil Hi-Speed Knobs, Zero Stops, and MLR reticle is $1945. That is literally the most expensive NF you can spec out besides the FFP F1. MOA adjustments are cheaper, as is a 3.5-15x56.
 
#15
Re: Arriving this week, IOR 3.5-18x50 SFP moa/moa

JROSE I get where your coming from. Unfortunately Its a fact that FFP (though probabaly unwarranted) are priced higher by U.S. scope companies. Especially as long as they keep flying off the shelves due to the demand we have put on them.
 
#17
Re: Arriving this week, IOR 3.5-18x50 SFP moa/moa

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LibertyOptics</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jeez, guys, this was a "for sale, arriving soon post"...

You guys can pay $1895 for your IOR from other dealers all you want, just don't lump me in the lot.

Scott </div></div>

Glad you posted about that Scott. Wasn't my place to say but I figured if some people could see that even at the same price it was a viable option the fact that they could get it even cheaper from you would make it a no brainer.
 
#18
Re: Arriving this week, IOR 3.5-18x50 SFP moa/moa

FWIW, IOR has never charged anything different for SFP/FFP, maybe like $20, but have raised prices on new models with exposed knobs and new features/construction. The new 3.5-18x50 series of scopes share identical technology and have identical pricing, SFP or FFP.

Also, while Nightforce is a great scope, IOR does offer a few plusses in their corner:

1) 35mm tube, not a 30mm with smaller internal lenses for more travel (but the oversized internal lenses do reduce travel)
2) Digital illumination with varying intensity settings, memory, and auto shut off.
3) Most people think IOR has better optics, and they do.
4) Secondary impact indicator for suppressors, etc.
5) Premium rings included in the price on all 35mm models, not just the first focal plane scope like NXS.
6) A real rotating ocular sleeve / fast focus eyepiece that is a true +/- 4 for diopter correction. I just prefer this.
7) No hassle replacement warranty
8) Scope to scope, a lower price

Durability has been the only sticking point/criticism of the IOR and if the scopes continue to hold up to hard use like the "Gen 4" scopes have then any other criticisms become nitpicking or personal preference, which is just fine, of course. Like I'm not guilty of that
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Scott
 
#19
Re: Arriving this week, IOR 3.5-18x50 SFP moa/moa

I bought a 16x42 IOR from someone in this post and it was a refurb passed off as new sent it back but I had to eat shipping,insurance and a set of BC caps just my 02 cents
 
#20
Re: Arriving this week, IOR 3.5-18x50 SFP moa/moa

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: M855</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I bought a 16x42 IOR from someone in this post and it was a refurb passed off as new sent it back but I had to eat shipping,insurance and a set of BC caps just my 02 cents </div></div>

If its us, I need my memory refreshed. If it's not, I'm sorry to hear that.

Scott
 
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