ATF Dangerous change Read

[nomad 1]

Received this earlier tonight just an up date.....

Dear J&G Customer,
This is a special notice to warn you of impending new gun regulation. The ATF has proposed to require gun dealers to provide directly to the ATF the names, addresses, and serial numbers for every purchase of two or more semi auto, mag fed rifles within a five day period!! They are trying to force this in by January 5th, without any approval from Congress, calling it a needed "emergency" regulation. This is backdoor registration of guns and gunowners.

Here is a quote from the notice by the NSSF (National Shooting Sports Foundation) regarding this burdensome and illegal move:

"The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) is moving to require federally licensed firearms retailers to report multiple sales of modern sporting rifles beginning January 5, 2011. Specifically, the ATF requirement calls for firearms retailers to report multiple sales, or other dispositions, of two or more .22 caliber or larger semi-automatic rifles that are capable of accepting a detachable magazine and are purchased by the same individual within five consecutive business days."

We are encouraging everyone to contact the relevant officials to protest this move. The office that approves regulation changes like this that bypass Congress is the Office of Information and Regulation affairs of the DOJ and they can be reached at 202-395-6466. You can call your Senator and Representative at the US Capitol switchboard at 202-224-3121.

The NSSF offers the following points to make when calling

1. "Multiple sales reporting of long guns will actually make it more difficult for licensed retailers to help law enforcement as traffickers modify their illegal schemes to circumvent the reporting requirement. Traffickers will go further underground, hiring more people to buy their firearms. This will make it much harder for retailers to identify and report suspicious behavior to law enforcement."
2. "Long guns are rarely used in crime (Bureau of Justice Statistics)."
3. "Imposing multiple sales-reporting requirements for long guns would further add to the already extensive paperwork and record-keeping requirements burdening America’s retailers – where a single mistake could cost them their license and even land them in jail."
4. "Last year, ATF inspected 2,000 retailers in border states and only two licenses were revoked (0.1%). These revocations were for reasons unknown and could have had nothing to do with illicit trafficking of guns; furthermore, no dealers were charged with any criminal wrongdoing."
5. "According to ATF, the average age of a firearm recovered in the United States is 11 years old. In Mexico it’s more than 14 years old. This demonstrates that criminals are not using new guns bought from retailers in the states."
6. "Congress, when it enacted multiple sales reporting for handguns, could have required multiple sales of long guns – it specifically chose not to."

Read the full notice by the NSSF here:
http://www.nssfblog.com/atf-to-require-multiple-sales-reports-for-long-guns/

Read the full ATF document proposing this illegal move here: (PDF)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/documents/atf.pdf

 

[vwhugger]

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Not only that, looks who's about to be nominated for the head of that outfit.

Andrew Traver, the special agent in charge of the Bureau's Chicago field division.

Andrew Traver's philosophical resume:

He favors banning ALL gun shows.
He opposes civilian ownership of semi-automatic rifles and shotguns.
He opposes private firearm sales.
He wants the Center for Disease Control to have oversight of the firearms industry. Apparently Mr. Traver believes guns are a disease. Or, maybe it's the gun owners he believes are diseased.

 

[black_ump]

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WOW.... When will it end ? and dont think they are going to stop ad clip fed semi autos... they will come for your "sniper" rifles eventually too.

hmm before you know it all we will be able to shoot are sporting shot guns and 22lr rifles to sport with.

insane

 

[High Binder]

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Well, all I know is I'll feel a whole lot safer once guns are 100% banned. It's a good thing we have people in DC looking out for us.

 

[Jboeri]

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well it looks like I'll only be buying one semi a week...

damn you medling ATF and your dogs too

 

[Switchblade]

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So ya say you want a revolution, oh yeah, but a comfy chair is all ya need. Ya say ya want a revolution, but your blood is too scarce to pay oh yeah...(Beatles, sorry boys)

 

[Mo_Zam_Beek]

Re: ATF Dangerous change Read

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: vwhugger</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not only that, looks who's about to be nominated for the head of that outfit.

Andrew Traver, the special agent in charge of the Bureau's Chicago field division.

Andrew Traver's philosophical resume:

He favors banning ALL gun shows.
He opposes civilian ownership of semi-automatic rifles and shotguns.
He opposes private firearm sales.
He wants the Center for Disease Control to have oversight of the firearms industry. Apparently Mr. Traver believes guns are a disease. Or, maybe it's the gun owners he believes are diseased. </div></div>

 

[KYS]

Re: ATF Dangerous change Read

All you have to do is make a couple state reps aware of this and they wont let it pass. Hopefully.

 

[nock]

Re: ATF Dangerous change Read

Idiots like that don't understand that if he gets it his way he will out of a job because of no work.

 

[captrichardson]

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This is thanks to the “Gangs, Drugs, Guns, & Mexico” issue.

ATF is trying to ID straw buyers who are purchasing large quantities of Semi-Auto weapons and sending them south of the border for the “Drug Wars”.

I am by no means if favor of any type of “Firearm Regulation”, but if they don’t get a handle on this issue, then it may well give the Anti Gun Crowd the leverage they need to get changes made that none of us want to see.

I know of two dealers who have recently had to contact ATF because they had individuals (non FFL holders) buying any type of semi-auto rifle they could get their hands-on at a reasonable price, and mags to go with them in case quantities. All transactions were being done in cash. When the dealers tried to get an idea what was going on, they either got conflicting stories or “none of your business” responses. This puts those dealers in a real bad situation, they can do nothing and possibly end up facing charges as an accessory or accomplice.

Hate to say it, but some greedy SOBs on this side of the border who are looking to make a quick buck selling to the drug cartels are putting the rest of us in a real bad situation.

If “we” don’t so something to stop the straw buying and selling south of the border, then we are all going to have to deal with the consequences when “big brother gets involved”!

Amazing the amount of damage that drugs do to this country on a daily basis, and given the amount of money involved good luck doing anything about it anytime soon!

207 Million in Drug Money Seized

Best of Luck,
M Richardson

 

[captrichardson]

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FYI, in case you were not aware of it,

Here is another "casualty" of the “Gangs, Drugs, Guns, & Mexico” issue:

Shipley Story

"John T. Shipley, was indicted Wednesday on charges he dealt firearms without a license for more than two years, buying the weapons from dealers on the Internet and then reselling them to unidentified buyers. Mr. Shipley sold more than 50 weapons, the indictment said. Some were recovered after shootouts between the Mexican Army and drug dealers in Chihuahua on March 8 last year that left seven dead, officials said."

Amazing what can go on in this country!
M Richardson

 

[Flyingbullseye]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: captrichardson</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Some were recovered after shootouts between the Mexican Army and drug dealers in Chihuahua on March 8 last year that left seven dead, officials said."
</div></div>

Wait, the Mexican army was shooting it out with the drug cartels? I thought they were <span style="font-style: italic">with</span> the cartels, what happened someone not get paid?

Flyingbullseye