Australia/New Zealand Manufacturers

[fmillik]

Do you guys not having any rifle/barrel/bullet/case/primer/gun powder/etc. manufacturers in New Zealand and Australia?

If you guys are paying more than double for all of these items, doesn’t this seem like a market that is underutilized?

 

[Sniperwannabee]

I was searching primers on line and I found a bunch in stock... then I realized it was in canada. They said they dont ship to the US I wonder if you could drive into Canada and bring some back?

 

[acudaowner]

you could start an whole new organization of primer runners and race cops back over the boarder you you could be a duke boy lol you need to paint your car orange and black with a rebel flag and 01 painted on the doors bolt the doors shut and learn to slide across the hood you could be a god .lol smuggling in freedom into an oppressed people bless you sir or go the whole bandit rout a trans am and a big rig .
only if you plan to push it though even if you had a huge hill to roll it down a bike would move faster but for shits and giggles id say sure .

 

[Sniperwannabee]

you could start an whole new organization of primer runners and race cops back over the boarder you you could be a duke boy lol you need to paint your car orange and black with a rebel flag and 01 painted on the doors bolt the doors shut and learn to slide across the hood you could be a god .lol smuggling in freedom into an oppressed people bless you sir

can I borrow your Cuda? That would work nice, lots of trunk space

 

[Eostech]

Rifles, actions, barrels, bullets, cases and powder are all manufactured in Australia and possibly NZ (not sure about powder there.) have not heard about primers but I’ve never looked.

Australia's population is like 26 million and NZ is pretty small, say firearm ownership is around 10 percent (guess). It’s not exactly the largest market in the world lol.

 

[aishooternz]

Do you guys not having any rifle/barrel/bullet/case/primer/gun powder/etc. manufacturers in New Zealand and Australia?

If you guys are paying more than double for all of these items, doesn’t this seem like a market that is underutilized?

We manufacture all those things. Quite a few hogdon powders are made in oz by adi.

There's about 4 or 5 barrel makers here in nz alone. Barnard actions too..

Not sure on primers

 

[Redmanss]

Saying Australia doesn’t make powder is like saying Japan doesn’t make cars.

 

[THEIS]

Hi,

So the question is...

Who is Australia/NZ is going to setup an export company to partner with my import company and ship me primers and smokeless powder?

Once you give me your company name and information it will take me about 14 days to get import documents lined out and harmonized tariff schedule updated on my bond paperwork.

Sincerely,
Theis

 

[Clearlight]

^^ Sorry our production cap is maxed out right now. Can y’all Muricans stop
using so much powder please !

 

[Barneybdb]

I was recently pushed into retirement down here in Australia, looking for a small income stream. Maybe I can set up a company? Already have contacts in freight forwarding companies.

 

[THEIS]

I was recently pushed into retirement down here in Australia, looking for a small income stream. Maybe I can set up a company? Already have contacts in freight forwarding companies.

Hi,

Lets go @barneybdb, I will assist from my side with any documents you need.

Sincerely,
Theis

 

[Barneybdb]

Almost midnite Friday down here right now, will start doing some research in the morning.

regards, Barney

 

[Barneybdb]

Seems ADI already export to the US...


We regularly receive questions about ADI powders from the reloading community, and we’ve noticed that the same issues keep cropping up. Here is a current list of those questions and answers. Of course, please feel free to contact us at [email protected] if these FAQs do not fully address any questions you may have.

I've heard that ADI exports a large amount of powder to the US. Is this why it is sometimes difficult to find a specific ADI powder in my local gunshop?
No. We do not supply the US market ahead of the Australian market, and our American business doesn’t exist at the expense of our local customers. In fact, Australian reloaders benefit from our relationship with our US importer, the Hodgdon Powder Company, in a couple of important ways. First, we share reloading data and technical information with Hodgdon, which helps keep our products at the cutting edge of performance and quality. Second, the sizeable volumes of Aussie-made powder we export to the US help keep local manufacture economically viable. Without this export market, the cost of our powders would be much higher than it currently is – it’s as simple as that.


I've heard many of the Hodgdon powders are actually ADI powders. If so why are they cheaper to purchase in the US?
One of the first things to note is that powder is typically sold in one-pound jars in the US, and that one pound is 453.6 grams. Australian reloaders buying 500 gram jars are therefore getting 10% more powder per jar than in the US. Further, ADI Powders does not control the retail price of our powders in Australia. The retail price of powder is determined by the market, and gunshops are free to set the price of powder according to their costs and profit requirements. This brings us neatly to the final factor determining the retail price of powder – the relatively high cost associated with moving powder around Australia in compliance with transport regulations as set by each state. In the US, powder can often be shipped as ordinary freight, while in Australia it has to be moved by a licensed carrier of dangerous goods. The cost of compliance with these requirements is probably the largest single factor determining the retail price of our powder in Australia.

 

[Seed tick]

I would like to place an order please.

 

[fmillik]

I was recently pushed into retirement down here in Australia, looking for a small income stream. Maybe I can set up a company? Already have contacts in freight forwarding companies.

I’m thinking someone needs to buy some old brass/bullet manufacturing equipment and getting it going. Looks like you have powder.

You guys shouldn’t be paying $90 for $40 worth of cartridges. As the pandemic should demonstrate, countries need to prioritize manufacturing locally in case of global disruptions.

 

[fmillik]

Saying Australia doesn’t make powder is like saying Japan doesn’t make cars.

That isn’t what I was saying. I truly didn’t know, but I have noticed you guys pay insane prices for cartridges and seem to be shooting American and European rifles.

 

[fmillik]

Looks like Bertram Bullet Co is an Australian brass manufacturer, but it specializes in obsolete and small batch brass.

 

[Sniperwannabee]

And just like that a business relationship is formed ...amazing!!hope it works out for both of you...good luck

 

[Clearlight]

I’m thinking someone needs to buy some old brass/bullet manufacturing equipment and getting it going. Looks like you have powder.

You guys shouldn’t be paying $90 for $40 worth of cartridges. As the pandemic should demonstrate, countries need to prioritize manufacturing locally in case of global disruptions.


At today’s ex rate, this is $502 USD for 100 x 338 Lap Mag cases.

 

[Simia Dei]

If someone could bring in Alphamunitions and Lapua brass at a better price, I'd be buying in bulk. And what the hell happened to N570??

 

[fmillik]

I did some more research, and you guys have ADI, which was purchased by Thales (some giant French conglomerate), and it sells some guns and commercial ammunition through Australia Munitions (guns as Lithgow Arms and ammo as Australian Outback). The guns seem to just be short action, and the rifles seem to be limited to military rounds (223/308).

I spent a little time to see if Australians are prohibited from civilian manufacturing of rifles, cases, bullets or cartridges, and it doesn't seem like it, but I read somewhere that Australia "nationalized" munition production in 1989 with the creation of ADI as a government owned corporation (couldn't find any mention of this beyond Wikipedia).

I wonder how one would go about finding old case/bullet/cartridge manufacturing equipment. It sounds like Footscray, Victoria was the center for small arms ammunition manufacturing during WWII, and has had a number of plants closed down as production needs wound down.

 

[acudaowner]

you could always make your own lol do it in small batches who is the chemist could you add nut meg and make it smell like Christmas or peppermint when you fire around that would be so cool this time of year .

 

[AngryKoala]

you could always make your own lol do it in small batches who is the chemist could you add nut meg and make it smell like Christmas or peppermint when you fire around that would be so cool this time of year .

Most chemists wouldn't even attempt it. The reaction is dangerous, the handling of the product is dangerous, the final processing is dangerous. I made a certain nitrogen containing compound once and it scared the shit out of me the whole time....never again.

 

[fmillik]

Most chemists wouldn't even attempt it. The reaction is dangerous, the handling of the product is dangerous, the final processing is dangerous. I made a certain nitrogen containing compound once and it scared the shit out of me the whole time....never again.

Australia is good on powder production. It’s limits seem to be cases and bullets.

 

[AngryKoala]

Australia is good on powder production. It’s limits seem to be cases and bullets.

Yea, I was just speaking to if someone wanted to try this at home.